IE Sugar Forum

[Mngrrr]

Here's an example of the sort of IE girl you can pull off of seeking.

That's a ghoulish looking woman.

[VeryBigBuck]

So, this was my approach when I was in the bowl, worked well for me. YMMV. This approach will not work with pros.

Target new to Seeking girls who don't want to admit to themselves that they are selling their pussy. It is based on the premiss that the party that has the money calls the shots and that there are MANY POT SB out-there and very, very few "real" SD's. Also lines up with their desire to be "spoiled". Heck, sometimes SBs with platonic in their profile would head to the FC with me after the M&G. Most headed to the FC on date 2. Over one year only 3 out of 16 POTs did not convert and go to the FC, 13 SB went to the FC, all bare, only 3 did not want CIP. 2 or 3 asked for condoms but I did not have any with me, they fucked anyway.

Guidelines:

1. Craft your profile as an experienced SD looking for a new SB after a previous LT SR ended due to SB moving away, finding someone in RL, etc. Say in your profile that you will absolutely never ask them to meet you at a hotel on a first meet and also you are not looking for a platonic SB, you are looking for a real connection. Again. Say in your profile that you are looking for a real connection with the right lady, intimacy is not expected but as in normal relationships, if there is a connection, intimacy will quickly and naturally follow.

2. In the DM's. Never discuss money with the POT SB. When she presses, say first you are sure that this does not apply to her but you are not looking for a working girl, prostitute, escort, or anyone looking to be paid for sex. You are looking for a smart, sexy SB to connect with and help financially. Say that the way that you will help is that at the end of a date (with adult fun) you will give her an envelope. This way YOU decide how much to give. Tell her that you are looking to meet weekly and after 2 or 3 months you can switch to a monthly envelope.

3. When she says "what if the amount in the envelope is not enough", respond "as in any relationship if there is an issue, we do the adult thing and talk to resolve the issue". In my experience, when a SB that I had fucked complained about the amount (only one of 13, my normal was 300 per envelope), I said, "that is all I have in my budget", sorry if it does not work for you, do you want to cancel our date this week? She said, "no that is fine". Also make sure that she cums a shit-ton the first time you have sex, get down there and lick her pussy like it is the last pussy on earth (google lesbian guide to pussy licking) before fucking her. It seems that young men these days don't enjoy dining at the why.

I checked out a thread that another user recommended that was loaded with stuff, some things I was already practicing and some that I was still on the fence about. Regardless, they can be applied in any city or state. So for the IE dudes looking to get some broke sugar babies, here's a few things to keep in mind, whether you're new or an experienced dude. In no order of importance:

1. Don't use your real phone number. Download google voice, free and seems to work better than most texting apps. A quick google search of your real phone number can pull up your real name, address and sometimes social medial. Try to give as little real info about yourself as possible when setting up arrangements.

2. Don't ever ever send pre-send money electronically. "I need gas", "I need money for a sitter", "I have to pay my cell phone bill or else we can't meet". Fuck all that, obvious red flag of a scammer. Using the websites seeking arrangement or secret benefits, you're bound to get a lot of bullshit scammers. When you encounter one, just bail immediately. There will never be a shortage of 20 something year old girls that can't manage their money. Just move along to the next one.

3. Take the convo off the sites immediately. Some sites will flag and suspend your account for discussing P p m. Direct contact is always better.

4. Try get xxx pics / vids. I tend to use it as a test to see which girls are really serious about meeting and fucking. Tik tok influencers have brainwashed these girls into thinking dudes are just going to shower them with money without ever expecting anything in return. Even after you take the conversation off the sites, they might still expect a platonic money filled arrangement LOL fuck all that. The real ones should have no problem letting you see the goods before meeting. Also, try to avoid catfishing by getting the most recent full body nudes.

5. First meet and greet, maybe lunch or drinks with a gift. But don't be too inve$ted in the m&g if you're not fucking. Be clear with them about your expectations and what their expectations are. If you do it right, you can find a consistent SB in the area at a decent price. Avoid high P pm, avoid 2 k monthly allowance and depending on your level of patience, avoid any girl with a drug addiction. Yes, they are desperate but they're also a headache to manage. Girls like that aren't chasing the money, they're chasing the high. They're bound to steal from you or get you wrapped into some bullshit. Again, just depends on you. I personally stay away from those but I have an older friend (50 +) that likes those because they're cheap asf. His risk tolerance is much higher than mine and so is his level of patience. Just a personal preference I guess.

6. They need you more than you need them. Fuck what they say about all the "I usually get 500 to meet, and only fuck once" lmao. Remember, you have disposable income. They, usually have POS baby daddies, DUIs, in between jobs, couch surfing at friends house, living the party lifestyle (lots of ravers in the IE), getting their cars repo-ed or all of the above. Know your caps and be firm with them. If your cap is 1 k for a meet, good for you bro. But if your cap is $300 for a meet, I'd recommend starting at 200 and seeing what the girl says. She might say some bullshit like "I usually never go that low, but I'm going through some shit rn, when can you meet?" They're going to try to get the most they can from you but don't fall for that shit. Let them know they'll get their funds at the end of the full meet, none of this "oh I got a headache, I got to go" . Or "oh I just remembered, my sister said she's coming by, I got to go home". Keep your guard up at all times. Be cool, be friendly, don't fully treat them like prostitutes, but at the same time, be FIRM about the actual details of the transaction.

7. Maintain several conversations at a time. Some girls will deny for your initial proposal, but time and circumstances change all things. Most of these girls will not figure themselves out of their shitty situation and suddenly, your "low" p pm will seem a lot more enticing. Just check in on those conversations every now and then, doesn't cost you anything once you already got their phone number.

8. Not for you? Just keep browsing. Some girls are actually down to meet and fuck for a few hours but got all types of rules, sometimes only sex no head, Only on their timeline, available at weird times of the day. If it seems like too much work for a particular girl, just keep browsing through the site. There's no shortage, believe me.

9. Last but not least, just have some patience. Maybe 10 texting convos will result in one actual meeting, but maybe it's 15 sometimes. Idk, just depends on a few different variables. I'm pretty sure if you're willing to spend more $$, you'll be getting more meetings. Or maybe the new batch of girls on the sites are expecting online platonic arrangements and then you get no meetings. I really don't have a clear explanation of how it all works. But a few things are certain in my experience: I've never had to pick up / meet a girl from the sugaring websites on a track, a seedy motel, never had to deal with a pimp, never got nervous about possible law enforcement. Sure, I've been flaked on plenty of times but some people just aren't going go through with it. Fuck it, move on to the next one.

[Ace McNasty]

I forgot to add the pics, but they're on a separate thread.

You can do a whole lot better than that group in the IE. Where are you hunting? Try other apps like SB, SDM and SecBen. Don't just restrict yourself to SA. The IE has lots of young single Moms. Both Latinas and white girls.

One of my current ones is a 20 yo Cuban girl, skin and bones just like the way I prefer. From the Upland-San Bern area. All bare, no condoms, and she lets me CIP because I'm neutered.

[FarFarAway]

I forgot to add the pics, but they're on a separate thread.

I"ve seen the profile of #2 a lot, but never been in touch.

Hey, let's revitalize this thread. I am out in the IE pretty often, would love to sugar out there, but the girls aren't as cute or as amenable as in OC.

[Cesar66]

Below are a few that I've taken down this past year, lowest cost was $100, highest was $250 but multiple nuts and got a room and all that. They're all very different, none are homeless or on a track, no pimps or any of that. 3 out of the 4, I picked them up from their parents house. Last one I was just met up at a restaurant for drinks before we did the deed. I met them all through Seeking Arrangements website. It takes some work Cesar66, but its pretty much lots of filtering through the scams and high ppm, but eventually you can find some consistent lays that give "girl next door" type of vibes. Check out the website, at least for a month. It's only like 80-90 bucks for unlimited messaging for the whole month. But make sure you take the conversation off the website immediately.

Thank you John I appreciate it.

[JohnDoe1989]

Hi Ace long time reader of yours, Thank you for all the reviews and advice threw out the years. I'm from the IE So and I'm starting to try the sugar daddy thing and wanted to ask What are some good sites you recommend? Iv herd of seekingbenefit and seeking, I want to know witch is better or if there are other sites I don't know of. Some of the guys here have even said I should try craigslist and hope I get lucky, witch I did once but that was years ago.

I forgot to add the pics, but they're on a separate thread.

[JohnDoe1989]

Hi Ace long time reader of yours, Thank you for all the reviews and advice threw out the years. I'm from the IE So and I'm starting to try the sugar daddy thing and wanted to ask What are some good sites you recommend? Iv herd of seekingbenefit and seeking, I want to know witch is better or if there are other sites I don't know of. Some of the guys here have even said I should try craigslist and hope I get lucky, witch I did once but that was years ago.

Below are a few that I've taken down this past year, lowest cost was $100, highest was $250 but multiple nuts and got a room and all that. They're all very different, none are homeless or on a track, no pimps or any of that. 3 out of the 4, I picked them up from their parents house. Last one I was just met up at a restaurant for drinks before we did the deed. I met them all through Seeking Arrangements website. It takes some work Cesar66, but its pretty much lots of filtering through the scams and high ppm, but eventually you can find some consistent lays that give "girl next door" type of vibes. Check out the website, at least for a month. It's only like 80-90 bucks for unlimited messaging for the whole month. But make sure you take the conversation off the website immediately.

[Berol Loz]

I checked out a thread that another user recommended that was loaded with stuff, some things I was already practicing and some that I was still on the fence about. Regardless, they can be applied in any city or state. So for the IE dudes looking to get some broke sugar babies, here's a few things to keep in mind, whether you're new or an experienced dude. In no order of importance:..

Thanks for posting this, this is good advice.

[FarFarAway]

Hi Ace long time reader of yours, Thank you for all the reviews and advice threw out the years. I'm from the IE So and I'm starting to try the sugar daddy thing and wanted to ask What are some good sites you recommend? Iv herd of seekingbenefit and seeking, I want to know witch is better or if there are other sites I don't know of. Some of the guys here have even said I should try craigslist and hope I get lucky, witch I did once but that was years ago.

Here's an example of the sort of IE girl you can pull off of seeking.

[Cesar66]

I only created this thread in January because some new member who did not have such privileges yet asked me because he wanted to "contribute". After I created this IE SD-SB sub-forum, never heard from him again. A thread is like a big-ass piano. It ain't going to move itself, and you can't just expect one dude to do all the heavy lifting. It takes many guys to move that piano from Point A to Point B.

Everything I needed to learn or know or add to my knowledge base when I first started sugaring many years ago, I learned from reading the ENTIRE Richmond sugar thread and forum. It is a gold mine of info. All the stuff posted there is applicable to sugaring anywhere in this country, including CA.

Ha ha hopefully we are not sugaring the same girl from Jurupa Valley OMG what a coincidence. She is a smoking hot 20 yo Cuban girl, almost skin and bones, but has amazing perky tits and cute little bubble butt. Same dates here, I pick her up at her parent's home in JV, take her to my FC, and she lets me do anything I want except anal. No condoms ever and she knows I am neutered so CIP finish. One more thing about using SM. She lost her phone and I could not contact her. So I tried messaging thru her SM account and she was so glad I did and we reconnected. Screenshot of our convo. But do not discuss graphic stuff on the app. Just establish comms, exchange digits, then take the convo off site. These sites have hall monitors and that's the fastest way for your account to get banned or restricted.

Hi Ace long time reader of yours, Thank you for all the reviews and advice threw out the years. I'm from the IE So and I'm starting to try the sugar daddy thing and wanted to ask What are some good sites you recommend? Iv herd of seekingbenefit and seeking, I want to know witch is better or if there are other sites I don't know of. Some of the guys here have even said I should try craigslist and hope I get lucky, witch I did once but that was years ago.

[RichNHood]

Another route of getting a sugar baby is becoming a regular of a escort and slowly building that relationship. I did that with one many years ago. Started with just basic dates with a little convo before and after. Then texting occasionally even when not dating, then started to let me do things she initially had as a hard no like BBBJ. And then we would go on occasional dates like lunch dinner or movies and I didn't have to pay for her time. I even met her little kid. And finally one day after a lunch date she begged me to come back after work and we fucked like we were really boyfriend and girlfriend and I creampied her. I only saw her a handful times after this as she really wanted a real relationship with me at this point and didn't want to continue if I wasn't down.

Again this was a slow burn process of several years and countless dates but I genuinely enjoyed it all and the payoff of her finally letting me fuck her raw was one of my most memorable experiences in my 15+ years of mongering.

[JohnDoe1989]

I checked out a thread that another user recommended that was loaded with stuff, some things I was already practicing and some that I was still on the fence about. Regardless, they can be applied in any city or state. So for the IE dudes looking to get some broke sugar babies, here's a few things to keep in mind, whether you're new or an experienced dude. In no order of importance:

1. Don't use your real phone number. Download google voice, free and seems to work better than most texting apps. A quick google search of your real phone number can pull up your real name, address and sometimes social medial. Try to give as little real info about yourself as possible when setting up arrangements.

2. Don't ever ever send pre-send money electronically. "I need gas", "I need money for a sitter", "I have to pay my cell phone bill or else we can't meet". Fuck all that, obvious red flag of a scammer. Using the websites seeking arrangement or secret benefits, you're bound to get a lot of bullshit scammers. When you encounter one, just bail immediately. There will never be a shortage of 20 something year old girls that can't manage their money. Just move along to the next one.

3. Take the convo off the sites immediately. Some sites will flag and suspend your account for discussing P p m. Direct contact is always better.

4. Try get xxx pics / vids. I tend to use it as a test to see which girls are really serious about meeting and fucking. Tik tok influencers have brainwashed these girls into thinking dudes are just going to shower them with money without ever expecting anything in return. Even after you take the conversation off the sites, they might still expect a platonic money filled arrangement LOL fuck all that. The real ones should have no problem letting you see the goods before meeting. Also, try to avoid catfishing by getting the most recent full body nudes.

5. First meet and greet, maybe lunch or drinks with a gift. But don't be too inve$ted in the m&g if you're not fucking. Be clear with them about your expectations and what their expectations are. If you do it right, you can find a consistent SB in the area at a decent price. Avoid high P pm, avoid 2 k monthly allowance and depending on your level of patience, avoid any girl with a drug addiction. Yes, they are desperate but they're also a headache to manage. Girls like that aren't chasing the money, they're chasing the high. They're bound to steal from you or get you wrapped into some bullshit. Again, just depends on you. I personally stay away from those but I have an older friend (50 +) that likes those because they're cheap asf. His risk tolerance is much higher than mine and so is his level of patience. Just a personal preference I guess.

6. They need you more than you need them. Fuck what they say about all the "I usually get 500 to meet, and only fuck once" lmao. Remember, you have disposable income. They, usually have POS baby daddies, DUIs, in between jobs, couch surfing at friends house, living the party lifestyle (lots of ravers in the IE), getting their cars repo-ed or all of the above. Know your caps and be firm with them. If your cap is 1 k for a meet, good for you bro. But if your cap is $300 for a meet, I'd recommend starting at 200 and seeing what the girl says. She might say some bullshit like "I usually never go that low, but I'm going through some shit rn, when can you meet?" They're going to try to get the most they can from you but don't fall for that shit. Let them know they'll get their funds at the end of the full meet, none of this "oh I got a headache, I got to go" . Or "oh I just remembered, my sister said she's coming by, I got to go home". Keep your guard up at all times. Be cool, be friendly, don't fully treat them like prostitutes, but at the same time, be FIRM about the actual details of the transaction.

7. Maintain several conversations at a time. Some girls will deny for your initial proposal, but time and circumstances change all things. Most of these girls will not figure themselves out of their shitty situation and suddenly, your "low" p pm will seem a lot more enticing. Just check in on those conversations every now and then, doesn't cost you anything once you already got their phone number.

8. Not for you? Just keep browsing. Some girls are actually down to meet and fuck for a few hours but got all types of rules, sometimes only sex no head, Only on their timeline, available at weird times of the day. If it seems like too much work for a particular girl, just keep browsing through the site. There's no shortage, believe me.

9. Last but not least, just have some patience. Maybe 10 texting convos will result in one actual meeting, but maybe it's 15 sometimes. Idk, just depends on a few different variables. I'm pretty sure if you're willing to spend more $$, you'll be getting more meetings. Or maybe the new batch of girls on the sites are expecting online platonic arrangements and then you get no meetings. I really don't have a clear explanation of how it all works. But a few things are certain in my experience: I've never had to pick up / meet a girl from the sugaring websites on a track, a seedy motel, never had to deal with a pimp, never got nervous about possible law enforcement. Sure, I've been flaked on plenty of times but some people just aren't going go through with it. Fuck it, move on to the next one.

[FarFarAway]

This thread could be a little more proactive. How's everyone's experience with seeking and secret benefits? I know seeking is filled with bots and scams rn, but for anyone who's willing to filter through all the bullshit, I'm still finding hot chicks that for decent prices. No pimps, no seedy motels. Just takes a little more patience. Will say though, the Inland Empire still feels untapped for that stuff. Jurupa Valley and San Jacinto seem to be the best cities where I'm finding hot chicks who couldn't manage a dollar to save their life LOL I saw on another post that the best time to set up a meet would be around the 25th-26th of the month, rent is coming up for most people and girls start to get desperate. I've set up a 2.5 hr meet before from the site where the girl wanted 400 but her car payment was due the next day so she basically talked herself down to 200. Three nuts for 200 bucks and just picked her up from her dad's house in Jurupa valley. But like I said, a lot of patience and a lot of other text convos with other girls that went nowhere. Feel free to reply with any more tricks of the trade or recommendations. Good luck out there fellas.

I'm from OC but often work in the IE, so I definitely troll out there. I have not had a lot of luck, actually. I play very carefully, I have a lot to lose, so that limits me quite a bit. Daytime meets, etc. I do think there is some nice talent, but I have met way more reasonable prospects in OC.

I don't use secret benefits, I can't figure out how to even get a paid membership without giving up personal info. Seeking has a well-known path for that.

[JohnDoe1989]

I only created this thread in January because some new member who did not have such privileges yet asked me because he wanted to "contribute". After I created this IE SD-SB sub-forum, never heard from him again. A thread is like a big-ass piano. It ain't going to move itself, and you can't just expect one dude to do all the heavy lifting. It takes many guys to move that piano from Point A to Point B.

Everything I needed to learn or know or add to my knowledge base when I first started sugaring many years ago, I learned from reading the ENTIRE Richmond sugar thread and forum. It is a gold mine of info. All the stuff posted there is applicable to sugaring anywhere in this country, including CA.

Ha ha hopefully we are not sugaring the same girl from Jurupa Valley OMG what a coincidence. She is a smoking hot 20 yo Cuban girl, almost skin and bones, but has amazing perky tits and cute little bubble butt. Same dates here, I pick her up at her parent's home in JV, take her to my FC, and she lets me do anything I want except anal. No condoms ever and she knows I am neutered so CIP finish. One more thing about using SM. She lost her phone and I could not contact her. So I tried messaging thru her SM account and she was so glad I did and we reconnected. Screenshot of our convo. But do not discuss graphic stuff on the app. Just establish comms, exchange digits, then take the convo off site. These sites have hall monitors and that's the fastest way for your account to get banned or restricted.

It is def funny that they're both from Jurupa valley, I had 2 other ones that were also from JV but one moved and the other got in a "relationship". My current one is 25 and thicker, so it is not the same. Good recommendation on the Richmond thread, currently reading through it and lots of good info.

[Ace McNasty]

This thread could be a little more proactive.

I only created this thread in January because some new member who did not have such privileges yet asked me because he wanted to "contribute". After I created this IE SD-SB sub-forum, never heard from him again. A thread is like a big-ass piano. It ain't going to move itself, and you can't just expect one dude to do all the heavy lifting. It takes many guys to move that piano from Point A to Point B.

How's everyone's experience with seeking and secret benefits? I know seeking is filled with bots and scams rn. Feel free to reply with any more tricks of the trade or recommendations. Good luck out there fellas.

Everything I needed to learn or know or add to my knowledge base when I first started sugaring many years ago, I learned from reading the ENTIRE Richmond sugar thread and forum. It is a gold mine of info. All the stuff posted there is applicable to sugaring anywhere in this country, including CA.

Will say though, the Inland Empire still feels untapped for that stuff. Jurupa Valley and San Jacinto seem to be the best cities where I'm finding hot chicks who couldn't manage a dollar to save their life LOL I saw on another post that the best time to set up a meet would be around the 25th-26th of the month, rent is coming up for most people and girls start to get desperate. I've set up a 2.5 hr meet before from the site where the girl wanted 400 but her car payment was due the next day so she basically talked herself down to 200. Three nuts for 200 bucks and just picked her up from her dad's house in Jurupa valley.

Ha ha hopefully we are not sugaring the same girl from Jurupa Valley OMG what a coincidence. She is a smoking hot 20 yo Cuban girl, almost skin and bones, but has amazing perky tits and cute little bubble butt. Same dates here, I pick her up at her parent's home in JV, take her to my FC, and she lets me do anything I want except anal. No condoms ever and she knows I am neutered so CIP finish. One more thing about using SM. She lost her phone and I could not contact her. So I tried messaging thru her SM account and she was so glad I did and we reconnected. Screenshot of our convo. But do not discuss graphic stuff on the app. Just establish comms, exchange digits, then take the convo off site. These sites have hall monitors and that's the fastest way for your account to get banned or restricted.