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 Originally Posted by PinheadLarry
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Players is my chill spot, open regular hours all week and sometimes there's a pretty girl or two, though it's a different atmosphere from places like BTs & FC. More like a nice dive bar, with shy managers and a smaller selection of alcohol. I would love to be wrong though, please share your opinion if you disagree.
I've honestly never been there, but I'll definitely check it out, thanks!
A dive vibe with good music, good food and good views is all I'm really looking for, and Centerfolds just scratched that itch for me before.
My ATF place to chill is Lakepointe Yacht Club, it's just too far out of the way to be worth the drive given current gas prices.
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 Originally Posted by PinheadLarry
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Players is my chill spot, open regular hours all week and sometimes there's a pretty girl or two, though it's a different atmosphere from places like BTs & FC. More like a nice dive bar, with shy managers and a smaller selection of alcohol. I would love to be wrong though, please share your opinion if you disagree.
I think there are basically 3 types of men in these clubs.
Guys who want to sit there, drink, and look at tits in motion. They really aren't looking for attention or fun.
Guys who want to be bigshots, they want to feel like they impressed the girls and want attention.
Guys who want to have sex.
Depending on the type of guy you are and how much you want to spend is going to make a club worth your time or not. The bigshots with not a lot of money are going to be happy on most of the 8 mile clubs, but if they want to drop mortgage payments they are going to be happier at legends etc. But clubs with no extras is basically useless to a the 3rd guy.
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Players might be the best 8 mile club
 Originally Posted by MichWinter15
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Curious if anyone's been to Centerfolds lately? I've stopped by 3-4 times the past year, but they always seem to be closed when I stop by. The new business hours on their sign seem to be optional.
I know it's not the most popular due to lack of private booths / extras, but I always felt like it had a good atmosphere pre-covid the few times I dropped in.
Wondering if it's still a decent relaxed place to see some tits and unwind, or it's lost its charm post-covid?
Players is my chill spot, open regular hours all week and sometimes there's a pretty girl or two, though it's a different atmosphere from places like BTs & FC. More like a nice dive bar, with shy managers and a smaller selection of alcohol. I would love to be wrong though, please share your opinion if you disagree.
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 Originally Posted by StMatthew
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AA and decent body cute, small, perky, great tits. Nova drained me. .
My notes confirm her knowing how to suck a dick very well.
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 Originally Posted by JackOfClubs
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I park across the street from BT's for free but the drawback is that Michigan Ave is so busy it's dangerous to cross the street even when the light is red! So be careful and fast when you cross the street!
During the day I always park across the street to the east, behind the strip mall with restaurants and such. Feels completely safe to me and crossing Schlaff St. Is no problem. It may be perfectly fine in the evenings too. At least one of the places in the strip is open late. But I guess I'm more hesitant to leave my car in a mostly empty parking lot after dark.
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 Originally Posted by CassMan
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I drive past that area twice a week and never even knew it was there. Like maybe I saw it once and forgot about it. I've never seen a report form any one who has been inside.
There's a few older reports on here, but since it's not as good as the nicer clubs outside Detroit, it's not reported on much.
Used to go there for lunch / happy hour with coworkers when I worked on 8 mile and it was always a good time. Most of the girls were pretty friendly, and while they didn't have extras I know some would do OTC for regulars. I only partook once with a skinnier mid-20's AA. I can't remember her name (Star?) but she had smaller tits, a pert butt and an unfortunate unibrow. Great riding skills though.
I haven't made it back since lockdown, so no clue how things are now. Everytime I've gone recently it's just been a locked door and empty lot.
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 Originally Posted by StMatthew
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I really like the atmosphere of SC. Went there Monday and Tuesday. Monday ran into a business associate and talked more to him, but mostly because no real talent. Sure girls came up, but no thanks. SC has a blond with huge knockers, and she always comes up to me. She's cute, big body and very friendly, but just not my type. I took a pass. Really wanted to get Eva (Ava?) short little spinners, cute petite, and dark hair. She wanted 250. Nothing happened. She was playing me but also was back at SC after trying all the clubs. She also wold not negotiate. Went to H8 late Monday, absolutely nothing there. Was hoping for Kassie, at least. Struck out both places, but had fun. Tuesday, tried BTs and forgot about mandatory valet. Looks like there is plenty of parking in the area during the day. Can someone explain the dangers or point of this. I called the club and he said I could park across the street and walk. But just felt whatever and mad I didn't try BTs it would have been my first time. Ended up at SC and chilled with Nova. She was funny, ready to do VIP immediately, I wasn't, but ended up liking her. AA and decent body cute, small, perky, great tits. Open to a lot, but I did BBBJ for 140. I also left her 20 on stage, she got called up as I was delaying / talking / enjoying my time and then I felt bad bc she didn't want to go up. She started at 200 FYI. I love my fellow mongers for always posting about haggling, getting what you want, and naming your price. I would actually repeat with Nova and it's a wide open menu (more than I paid) and she is sweet. I have read great comments and appreciate it, it helped me at the DT clubs. Nova told me I had to bust in 4 songs. 2 songs later she was cleaning up LOL. I went to H8 after and saw a few cute but heavy ones. Got approached but was tapped out, tired, and hungry, so I left, and didn't want to push my luck. But I did see 2 girls there I would do VIP with-cute but big girls. Nova drained me. LOL.
I park across the street from BT's for free but the drawback is that Michigan Ave is so busy it's dangerous to cross the street even when the light is red! So be careful and fast when you cross the street!
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 Originally Posted by MichWinter15
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Curious if anyone's been to Centerfolds lately? I've stopped by 3-4 times the past year, but they always seem to be closed when I stop by. The new business hours on their sign seem to be optional.
I know it's not the most popular due to lack of private booths / extras, but I always felt like it had a good atmosphere pre-covid the few times I dropped in.
Wondering if it's still a decent relaxed place to see some tits and unwind, or it's lost its charm post-covid?
I drive past that area twice a week and never even knew it was there. Like maybe I saw it once and forgot about it. I've never seen a report form any one who has been inside.
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Planning a FC dayshift trip
Just want to say Diamond on days a FC is a fun and affordable trip upstairs. If you are into the spinner type she is your girl. Back in December Heather caught my eye but haven't had the time for a day trip since. I'm planning such a trip next week and wanted to ask if any one has seen her and what days and if you got any details to report.
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SC and H8 over 2 days
I really like the atmosphere of SC. Went there Monday and Tuesday. Monday ran into a business associate and talked more to him, but mostly because no real talent. Sure girls came up, but no thanks. SC has a blond with huge knockers, and she always comes up to me. She's cute, big body and very friendly, but just not my type. I took a pass. Really wanted to get Eva (Ava?) short little spinners, cute petite, and dark hair. She wanted 250. Nothing happened. She was playing me but also was back at SC after trying all the clubs. She also wold not negotiate. Went to H8 late Monday, absolutely nothing there. Was hoping for Kassie, at least. Struck out both places, but had fun. Tuesday, tried BTs and forgot about mandatory valet. Looks like there is plenty of parking in the area during the day. Can someone explain the dangers or point of this. I called the club and he said I could park across the street and walk. But just felt whatever and mad I didn't try BTs it would have been my first time. Ended up at SC and chilled with Nova. She was funny, ready to do VIP immediately, I wasn't, but ended up liking her. AA and decent body cute, small, perky, great tits. Open to a lot, but I did BBBJ for 140. I also left her 20 on stage, she got called up as I was delaying / talking / enjoying my time and then I felt bad bc she didn't want to go up. She started at 200 FYI. I love my fellow mongers for always posting about haggling, getting what you want, and naming your price. I would actually repeat with Nova and it's a wide open menu (more than I paid) and she is sweet. I have read great comments and appreciate it, it helped me at the DT clubs. Nova told me I had to bust in 4 songs. 2 songs later she was cleaning up LOL. I went to H8 after and saw a few cute but heavy ones. Got approached but was tapped out, tired, and hungry, so I left, and didn't want to push my luck. But I did see 2 girls there I would do VIP with-cute but big girls. Nova drained me. LOL.
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Centerfolds
Curious if anyone's been to Centerfolds lately? I've stopped by 3-4 times the past year, but they always seem to be closed when I stop by. The new business hours on their sign seem to be optional.
I know it's not the most popular due to lack of private booths / extras, but I always felt like it had a good atmosphere pre-covid the few times I dropped in.
Wondering if it's still a decent relaxed place to see some tits and unwind, or it's lost its charm post-covid?
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Her Name
 Originally Posted by Tbird11955
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MM. Thanks for the intel! You're a great provider of information.
I agree with you 100% on the fake tits, ass, eyelashes, etc. For me, excessive tats is a hard no for me as well. IMO. If a girl thinks they need ridiculous eyelashes and giant fake tits to be attractive then they are not for me. All natural is best for me even if she has a few flaws. But, to each his own as I am sure some mongers love this stuff.
One of my favs was at H8 a few months ago. She's not fat but not thin. She's got great natural and proportionate tits, a very pretty face and she was such a sweetheart. We went back in those ultra tiny rooms and she gave me a memorable BBBJ (nude) and let me roam all over her. She put her legs up on those bars and let me enjoy all I wanted. Was she the hottest. No. She had personality and understood what I liked (nothing weird but I'm a visual so a naked 27 year old is a turn on).
I forgot to mention that her name is / was Jade. Haven't seen her since but I'm not a regular to Detroit so my visits are about once a month.
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Agree on bling!
 Originally Posted by MareloboMex
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I worked in Detroit 41 nights in 2024. I spent time with 15 girls and walked into the VIP 78 distinct times. 16 nights did 1 VIP, 16 nights I did 2 VIPs, 6 nights I did 3 VIPs, and 3 nights I did 4 VIPs.
I made 35 visits to BTs, 13 visits to Criket, 2 visits to Landing Strip. Numerous nights there were no girls in the first club I found satisfactory and I had to change clubs to get a girl, sometimes I had to check out 3 clubs or check out day shift and night shift to find a girl I wanted.
There are 4 types of girls.
Girls I would pay money to spend time with (7's, 8's, 9's).
Girls I would spend time with for free (4's, 5's, 6's).
Girls I would need to be paid to spend time with her (3's).
Girls I would not spend time with (1's, 2's).
I need to be attracted to both a girl's looks and attitude to take her to the VIP. I start with girls who are 7's, 8's, and 9's that I get a boner watching her dance. My preference is for young thin fit spinners, with small firm perky natural tits, firm flat stomach, and minimal or no tattoos, piercings and make up. I watch the girls dance on stage, and I will tip $1 to a girl I find attractive and invite her sit and talk to me. While we are talking, I assess her attitude. I expect her to pay attention to me and not her cell phone. If we have good natural chemistry, she is friendly, in a good mood, and shares some information about herself, then I will agree to negotiate a VIP session.
Sometimes Criket looks like a club full of fat black girls and BTs looks like a club full of fat white girls, there are still enough spinners around that with patience I was successful in finding a few of them.
It does seem like the average age of dancers has risen to mid 20's to low 30's. With patience I was able to find a good number college age girls. 74 of my 78 sessions were with college age girls between the ages of 18 22 years old. The four remaining sessions where with girls ages 23 25.
Girls who are below a 7 I find are using their looks as a form of birth control.
Girls who do not hustle well and are not friendly use their personality as a form of birth control.
If she passes the looks and personality test then break out the condoms for birth control.
Many fewer girls seem to be doing Onlyfans and Seeking Arrangements since there is money in the strip club. Those other venues get increasingly crowded with scammers.
During the 41 nights I was in Detroit, I observed and tipped 14 girls that I found attractive enough to take to the VIP that I did not. The vast majority is because the girls never came over to talk to me after I tipped them. The remainder came and talked with me, and based on our conversation I decided not to go to the VIP with them. Basically, she used her personality as birth control.
When I find those rare gems that please me (I am picky), I tended to go back and see her multiple times.
Sierra at BTs is the girl that I wanted the most and never got to take. She only danced a few days in August and December. She had just turned 20 years old. She is going to school in Florida. I hope to find her again in the future.
Out of every 10 girls dancing I find roughly 1 who is attractive enough that I will pay money to spend time with her. The trend for fake tits, fake butts, voluminous tattoos & piercings, too much make up, ridiculously large false eyelashes and terribly long finger nails all continue to reduce the number of girls I find attractive and available. Walking into the club I have eliminated about 90% of the girl based on looks. That leaves at most 3 girls on any given shift in any club that I want.
Looks are subjective and standards of beauty are different for each boy. There are plenty of older, curvier, heavier, big breasted girls, heavily tattooed, pierced and girls wearing significant amounts of make up for those boys who find that attractive.
7 girls provided me outstanding VIPs, I am willing to follow these girls from club to club when they change clubs. I repeated with these seven girl 63 times during the year. As always YMMV, but I suggest others are likely to enjoy these girls.
- Skye at Criket / BTs / Legends.
- Alana at BTs / Players.
- Italy at BTs / Landing Strip.
- Rain at BTs.
- Crystal at BTs.
- True at BTs.
- Casper at Criket.
6 girls provided acceptable VIPs and I might repeat with them but wouldn't chase them from club to club. I would prefer to first try a new girl. As always YMMV.
- Melody at Landing Streip. Cuban.
- Bubbles at BTs.
- Mia at BTs this is the girl who dances on dayshift different from the Cuban Mia that dances on night shift.
- Red at BTs.
- Kennedy at BTs.
- Andrea at Criket. Cuban.
2 girls had bad sessions, and I would not repeat, I suggest others are likely to not enjoy them and being careful or avoiding them.
- Vicki at BTs Cuban She stopped dancing a few month ago.
- Esse at BTs.
The topic of Cubans has come up many times and I sampled three of them, and 1 was bad and 2 were acceptable. I was hoping for at least one outstanding Cuban last year.
6 times I had problems and did not complete the session; I suggest other be careful with these girls;.
- Lana at Criket When we walked into the VIP she had so many rules about what I could and couldn't touch or do it was too stressful and I walked out.
- Luxury at BTs I asked her to take off her shoes and she refused so I walked out. She stopped dancing a few months ago.
- Selena at BTs In the VIP she asked for payment up front, so I walked out. She works frequently and is busy in the VIP. I am surprised she makes all those guys pay in advance, perhaps there was something about me she didn't like.
- Kennedy at BTs In the VIP she asked for payment up front, so I walked out. She is possibly the best looking girl I saw all year.
After my experience with Selena and Kennedy, I started confirming with girls before I walked into the VIP that payment is at the end.
- Cat at BTs She said she insists on payment first.
- Jesse at BTs She said she insists on payment first, although she has not enforced that on others, perhaps there was something about me she didn't like.
For all you guys who pay in advance, I have never had it work out well, and I would strongly encourage you to stop doing it. Otherwise, you will posting complaining about how you got cheated or hustled. I do think it is fair to show the girl your money so she is not being cheated, but then it goes back in my pocket until I am happy. These girls who insist on paying in advance are helping you avoid bad sessions with them, they will at best be mechanical, and at worst grab your money and walk out leaving you unhappy.
Negotiations: I always request no song count and to go to the VIP after she finishes her stage set. Prices continue to rise and as new girls who never danced pre-inflation are demanding higher prices to compensate for the effects of inflation. I had held the $200 price point though 2022 by;.
- Offering girls repeat sessions and coming back to see them regularly.
- By offering two sessions on the same night.
- By pointing out early in the evening that I am covering her tip out so all other session are pure profit to her.
- By watching girls come out of the VIP and saying they already made their tip out so my session is all profit.
- By grandfathering in prices negotiated in prior years before the inflation.
In 2023 my average session cost rose to $230. In 2024 my average session cost rose to $240. I expect costs will continue to rise for the quality of girls I am seeking.
Regardless of negotiated price I offer each girl a $20 - $40 tip if they exceeded my expectations and succeed in completely satisfying me. My expectations are extremely high and it is difficult for the girls to exceed them but I was always happy when the girls earned my tip which was surprisingly often for Skye, True, Casper, Crystal, Italy, Alana and Rain. Also, for girls who I repeated with and enjoyed their company, if they would sit with me in the main room, I would buy them drinks or food. And I might tip for a fantasy or for photos. My average spend on my repeat girls was $270 when I include buying her a drink and she earned a tip.
I hope to enjoy my favorite girls as well as sample new girls in the new year. See you in the club.
MM.
MM. Thanks for the intel! You're a great provider of information.
I agree with you 100% on the fake tits, ass, eyelashes, etc. For me, excessive tats is a hard no for me as well. IMO. If a girl thinks they need ridiculous eyelashes and giant fake tits to be attractive then they are not for me. All natural is best for me even if she has a few flaws. But, to each his own as I am sure some mongers love this stuff.
One of my favs was at H8 a few months ago. She's not fat but not thin. She's got great natural and proportionate tits, a very pretty face and she was such a sweetheart. We went back in those ultra tiny rooms and she gave me a memorable BBBJ (nude) and let me roam all over her. She put her legs up on those bars and let me enjoy all I wanted. Was she the hottest. No. She had personality and understood what I liked (nothing weird but I'm a visual so a naked 27 year old is a turn on).
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 Originally Posted by Electronman
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Thanks MM. Very helpful.
I don't visit the metro Detroit area very often but I'll have to book mark this as a travel guide.
Agreed. Very informative, especially since MM and I seem to have very similar tastes based on descriptions and overlap. I don't get to Detroit nearly so often but I did manage to have a couple of excellent sessions with True at BTs and one each with Crystal at BTs and Andrea at Criket. When I'm back in town I'll have to keep an eye out for the others on this list.
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 Originally Posted by JayStern
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Has anyone seen Jasmine normally worked day shift at FC.
Dark hair, thin, with a nice ass. Might be either Caucasian or Latina? If she fits that description there is a Jasmine working nights at Bogarts.
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