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[Chupacabra]

I see them now as part-time prostitutes.

Is that like being almost pregnant? Haha I see them as prostitutes who more closely screen their tricks and have a sliding scale on pricing.

When it comes to having a real civie GF or a wife. Of course there are costs involved. But they are not direct cash payments explicitly/directly for sex. You pay for a GF or wife indirectly. With the cost of courting them, dating them, helping maybe with a bill sometimes, gifts, etc. I've said this many times as well.

The biggest "cost" for me of having a GF / wife, by far, is the cost of my time and energy. That's the real cost. Shit tests, aggravation, less sleep, drama, bullshit, nagging, no hobbies, no peace. Fuck, the cash cost is what I gladly pay to be free from all of that. I'll have a pleasant 30 min-2 hr time with them, have great sex and then leave and never look back. It's the cost of FREEDOM baby, and I'm paying it. Everybody thinks pimps are cool and johns are lame, but I think pimps are chumps. They willingly take on all of the bullshit and drama from not one but multiple women. Imagine the bullshit they have to deal with day in and day out with some of these braindead hoes. You couldn't pay me.

Also, more on point of the thread I just canceled a date with a "part time prostitute" on Seeking because she turned out to be. . . Full time. Haha We had it set up for this afternoon by text, I told her I'd text when I got home from work and was settled in, but about an hour later she starts blowing up my phone saying she's ready. Oh OK, I didn't realize we were working on your timetable. Then 30 min later she called and we had a quick convo, I told her to be patient, was very cordial. 30 min later, another call that I ignored (I was busy). I texted her that she seemed a little rushed and was she going to be able to chill and hang out (we'd discussed drinks) or was she in a hurry today? This triggered her ghettoness and I got a response saying I was delusional or something like that, and that she knows I was just trying to "trick her into staying longer" (professional ho with an hourly mindset) and that she gets paid "thousands of dollars" for that and I thought I was getting special treatment "just because I found you on Seeking. " I wished her the best, blocked and moved on. Definitely a pro and all I had to do was lightly scratch the veneer to find out. She was young too! Crazy. I may start looking for younger girls in the midwest to fly in. Women in the big cities are just 90% garbage.

[MrBlueSea]

I mean you do you. As you will of course. To each his own.

But I stand by what I said. You exact revenge on enough girls and one day one of them is going to escalate in a way you can't undo. A rape allegation. A dox. Something. You have more to lose than they do in most cases. And they know that. I hope it doesn't happen to you. But you're playing with fire.

I appreciate all of your input, thank you, but lets hope I don't get burned any time soon.

[MrBlueSea]

Here's the MIT-trained pimp himself explaining this process using his mail order bride as some kind of visual prop LOL.

Seeking verification video

Forget Seeking, it's become too much of a hassle to keep their overpriced membership. I have shifted to SugarDaddyMeet.com and SugarLifeNow.com and have been having some success. Will try and do some posts soon.

[FarFarAway]

Same here. And it has been this way a while. I put in a help request on this topic this week. I don't recall all their practices, perhaps they don't send an acknowledging email, but I didn't get one. That might be another bug.

I wondered if it might be browser related. Currently I use Brave on a Mac, people using different browsers might have different experience. Oh, and then there is the mobile app. I don't want to burden my burner, so I don't even have that installed. I have tried Safari at times, I thought it was even worse for the problem where you click a profile in a list and get that PNA page.

I did finally get a CS response, the typical Pablum. Restart the browser, clear the cache. No acknowledgement that their site was buggy as it clearly is.

[Ace McNasty]

No matter what email I use (Gmail, Yahoo, Proton, etc.), I am never able to sign up for this damn site.

It keeps giving me an Invalid Email error. Do I need to use VPN?

Anyone else having success signing up for this site?

Since FOSTA was passed back in 2018, a lot of sites pushed back against sex work apps. For example, lots of Hx guys posted they were no longer getting emails from the site at their Yahoo mail. Admin even warned members to switch over to a different mail provider. Not sure about GM or Proton. I have never used any of these for my throw away email addy.

I joined all the sugar apps back in 2016 and created multiple redundant accounts using different servers from your list above and I never had any problems or blowbacks. Consider joining SDM they been around since 2007. They may have a bit more relaxed rules. Here are my current 3 SB's from SDM.

[Ace McNasty]

NEW ON SEEKING. Introducing the Selfie Liveness Check.

Here's the MIT-trained pimp himself explaining this process using his mail order bride as some kind of visual prop LOL.

Seeking verification video

[Murrican]

Who goes onto a sugar site looking for escorts? Pretty much none of us do. We don't treat the girls like that. But it would be delusional to not technically see the transaction of giving a woman cash for sex. Not being technically prostitution. Because it is. Especially when a girl becomes a career sugarbaby. I see them now as part-time prostitutes. I don't TREAT them that way. But I do SEE them that way. There's a difference. I don't even bother messaging career sugarbabies. I only go for first time sugarbabies. And preferably finding them as a non-pro. Over finding them as a sugarbaby.

Where to find a hot girl that's not needing explicitly an arrangement for sex? I've said it myself many times. Dating sites, social media, public pickup game, bars, clubs, etc. And alot will fuck. Just because they want to fuck. Don't even need to take them for drinks, dinner or anything.

When it comes to having a real civie GF or a wife. Of course there are costs involved. But they are not direct cash payments explicitly/directly for sex. You pay for a GF or wife indirectly. With the cost of courting them, dating them, helping maybe with a bill sometimes, gifts, etc. I've said this many times as well.

I've said all these things and more. No need to school me on the game.

Right. Just because a girl does not extend her hand for payment literally every time she opens her legs does not mean she's not doing it largely for the money. It doesn't mean she gets zero benefit besides money. Obviously many SBs also enjoy their time with their SD. But there's a difference between something being sufficient and something being necessary.

Sometimes you go to a restaurant where you're a regular and they give you a free dessert or comp your meal. It doesn't mean you no longer have to pay anymore.

[LadiesChoice]

No matter what email I use (Gmail, Yahoo, Proton, etc.), I am never able to sign up for this damn site.

It keeps giving me an Invalid Email error. Do I need to use VPN?

Anyone else having success signing up for this site?

Maybe instead try registering at secretbenefits since they are the same site.

[Lexx1]

Who goes onto a sugar site looking for escorts? Pretty much none of us do. We don't treat the girls like that. But it would be delusional to not technically see the transaction of giving a woman cash for sex. Not being technically prostitution. Because it is. Especially when a girl becomes a career sugarbaby. I see them now as part-time prostitutes. I don't TREAT them that way. But I do SEE them that way. There's a difference. I don't even bother messaging career sugarbabies. I only go for first time sugarbabies. And preferably finding them as a non-pro. Over finding them as a sugarbaby.

Where to find a hot girl that's not needing explicitly an arrangement for sex? I've said it myself many times. Dating sites, social media, public pickup game, bars, clubs, etc. And alot will fuck. Just because they want to fuck. Don't even need to take them for drinks, dinner or anything.

When it comes to having a real civie GF or a wife. Of course there are costs involved. But they are not direct cash payments explicitly/directly for sex. You pay for a GF or wife indirectly. With the cost of courting them, dating them, helping maybe with a bill sometimes, gifts, etc. I've said this many times as well.

I've said all these things and more. No need to school me on the game.

[FarFarAway]

I'll just reiterate a wisdom past SDs have shared. Everyone gets the sugar bowl they are looking for. People's personal selections control that. If you go onto the site and treat POTs like escorts, that's who you'll get because they are definitely there. That doesn't mean all girls there are.

If you are aware of a place where a lot of desirable women willingly have great sex w / you without *any* expectation for anything in return (broadly defined. Hourly, or an evening at a show after dinner, up to a lifetime of financial support), you ought to publish that for everyone to partake. Otherwise, I'd just say every male-female relationship has value flowing in both directions. I provide non-tangible benefits to some, which they appreciate and ingratiate me to them; they are a contributing factor to why they'll still be on my contact list.

Like that old joke "would you sleep w / me for a million dollars. ? To spend a few hours w / a naked coed sharing her cross-country runner body w / me is definitely worth a few bucks, and because I am knowledgeable about the set-up and can afford the discretion of a hotel room, no one ever needs to know (her need), because our tryst is something that really floats her boat (as well as mine). I literally got a text yesterday from an old SB (20's) who just could not get out of her mind the oral I gave her 2+ years ago, and wanted a tryst. She's Tuesday. And she is obviously doing it willingly and not ONLY because she's getting a paycheck. That's why big allowances don't work for me, aside from just fiscal prudence.

As another wise guy here wrote (JZLizard), there is a cost for every sex act w / a woman. If you aren't providing funds explicitly, different expectations will develop, and the cost of those you might not be wiling to pay (especially if you have a SO).

[TopGun9]

No matter what email I use (Gmail, Yahoo, Proton, etc.), I am never able to sign up for this damn site.

It keeps giving me an Invalid Email error. Do I need to use VPN?

Anyone else having success signing up for this site?

[Lexx1]

I have said this so many times. Amen. It irritates me when guys do things like refer to their SB as their girlfriend. I'm always that dude that flies in and pops their bubble. It's not my style but it's warranted. I always have to remind guys, if you stop paying and she stops coming, she ain't your girlfriend. And sometimes the insanity continues. Like a guy will say I keep giving her money because I want to not because I have to. The level of self delusion sometimes is psychopathic.

I have no problem with what this is. I'm almost 50. I know that 23 year old would rather be banging a 25 year old guy. I'm not stupid. I get it. I accept it. I have no illusions that it's only my money that got this started but now she really likes me for me and me alone. It's embarrassing to even write that. I'm actually a quite good looking guy and do well outside the seeking game. But to think some girl who was in high school a few years ago would do this without money is retarded.

LOL "The level of self delusion sometimes is psychopathic. " I call it psychopathetic!

Murrican you and me know the game man. Some guys really need to wake up.

[Lexx1]

That's your experience, it isn't everyone's. I have had 3 long-term arrangements. I haven't been "w /" any of them in years, and we don't text more than yearly. Any of them would take my text or call and have a coffee or lunch w / me, on me. Gratis. At least partly because none of them have SOs. There's shared good times and friendship. I have this b / c that is what I go for, and it's hard to find, even more so now.

There are a few girls who are truly looking for age-gap relationships, or want a dom, or whatever. Those are the ones I want to tap.

Having a dinner, lunch or drinks is one thing after many years. I have plenty of girls I can do that with as well. But are you actually FCing them? For just the cost of that. You didn't mention that. Just because they're "keeping in touch". Doesn't mean anything. Girls that are babies keep in touch. Because they're hoping you're going to FC them again for cash. That's all. If you had said you were actually FCing them too. Then I'd give you props and cred.

So it just goes back to what Murrican and me are saying. These babies are only fucking us because we are paying them. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's what this game is about.

[StevenWalker]

I need a new sugarbaby now but the quality is just scary bad. What happened to all the young girls? All these girls on seeking are over 30 lmao. I can smash those girls for free on dating apps. This is soo frustrating.

[Murrican]

I get what you are saying and agree with some of it. However, in my experience with this, the ones that pull shit typically are smart and have no problem ripping us off, and do it frequently. These girls are hardly innocent. I had one once pull a knife on me, and when I laughed about it and told her how hot she looked 'robbing' me, that alone was enough to make her want to see me again. Strange but true. I could go on with more examples. All I can say is, trying to 'correct' being taken advantage of is not an awful way to live, especially in this game.

I mean you do you. As you will of course. To each his own.

But I stand by what I said. You exact revenge on enough girls and one day one of them is going to escalate in a way you can't undo. A rape allegation. A dox. Something. You have more to lose than they do in most cases. And they know that. I hope it doesn't happen to you. But you're playing with fire.