Streetwalker Reports

[Body Shopper]

All of my posts on this forum are fiction. Any resemblance to real people, places, or events is entirely coincidental.

Hard data:

Erika motel date BBBJ BBJS CIP.

Summer (No Neck) car date BBBJ 20.

Erika motel date BBBJ CIM.

Toothless Tabatha car date BBBJ CIM WS 30.

Erika car date BBBJ CIM.

I arrived in Milwaukee on Sunday at 11:00, mongered on the streets a bit, then rented a motel at around noon. Showered so that I wouldn't waste any girl's fluids by washing them off. I wanted to make sure that each slore slurps up the previous girls' pussy juice, spit, and if I am so lucky, blood.

First, I picked up Erika and that retard Baby Jess. Jessi wanted a ride somewhere, then another ride to where she's staying. I had spoken with her on the phone two days earlier, and when I asked her to do a motel date with me Sunday, she said "That's fine. " This statement, I extracted from her 3 times during that phone call. When Jessi says "That's fine", that means "no". She's an idiot, and she has bad character. So, the day before yesterday, when I picked her and Erika up, and Jessi was standing at my door, about to get in, I said, right in front of Erika, "If you don't want to do a date today, just say so, and I will still give you these rides, no problem. But you need to be honest with me and tell me. She immediately replied, "Yes, I want to do the date!" She got in, and I gave her the rides she wanted.

After dropping off Jessi, Erika and I repaired to my motel room. We spent a total of a quarter of a day together, after Jessi departed. Erika dilly dallied for and hour or two, then slept for two hours. I woke her up, because I hadn't shot since I got into town 7 hours earlier, and because I didn't want her to be dopesick and unable to perform. By and by, Erika came to and sucked my cock. When I was about to cum, she flung her pregnant self onto her back and spread her pig legs. I frantically positioned myself between her legs, then hatefully pounded my semen into her pussy. Every orgasm I've ever had in her pussy has been done with pure hatred, because I know that the only reason I'm doing it is because she doesn't dare to say no after saying yes to my friend. I've never threatened her, and she's resigned herself to her fate, and seems really happy and dedicated- nay, hellbent- on making sure I shoot in her pussy so she gets that extra fee- but the historical record, which shows her talking herself down in price once, and refusing to let me cum in her pussy when she barked the current price on another occasion, proves that she doesn't want me cuming in her pussy. Don't become friends with any of these providers, gentlemen, unless you are one of the men they allowed to shoot in their pussy the first time you fucked them, and swallowed your load during the first blow job they gave you. Anyone else isn't your friend, because each provider gives it up on the first date for some fraction of men. Whether it's 1%, 5%, or 70% of men, they do give it all up, and hungrily so. Don't be stupid.

So, I dropped Erika off where Jess was at. I called Erika 3 minutes later, and Erika answered, sighing in being unamused by my phone call, saying "She's putting on her shoes and stuff. " I said, "Okay. " Whenever a slore says she or someone else is putting on her shoes, it's a lie. I called again 7 minutes later, and Erika said that Jessi is having a mental breakdown and isn't going to come out. Erika didn't have the decency to call me and say this. They were at a man's house in a nice, quiet neighborhood, a fair distance from Silver City. I had warned Erika while we were at the motel that if Jessi doesn't come out after my offer to not do the date, and her assurance that she'll do it, that I will start honking in the middle of the night right outside that guy's house. So, Erika was in phone-answering mode, and I had control over who I spoke with and whatnot. I said something or other, and Erika asked me if I want her to tell Jessi. I said "No, put her on the phone. " She handed the phone to Jessi, and Jessi prattled about her mental breakdown. I retorted, admonishing her about my repeated question earlier, and her repeated assurance that we will do the date. She retorted that Erika and I were late getting back, so the date is rightfully off. She also lied and said that I always ask questions about Erika, and that makes her feel uncomfortable. She handed the phone back to Erika. We spoke for a minute, during which I disavowed Baby Jess and informed Erika that I have it out for Jessi now.

I went cruising and picked up No-Neck Summer. She gave me a toothy blow job that didn't get me more than half-hard. She has one of the most enjoyable personalities out there, though. And I believe she was trying her best to give a good blow job. Her techniques just aren't my thing. If she gets some of you guys off, good for you. She did some intense work on the cock head, which was cool. Another cool thing she did was give me road head for several minutes after I started driving back. I do enjoy road head. She had wiped Erika's pussy juice clean off my cock with a wet wipe from her purse. She spent probably two minutes doing that (I have the weakness that I make the error of bragging about my previous conquests, thus occasionally causing a provider to do something like this, though I think this is the first time a provider did the actual cleaning work), then nonchalantly remarked twice during the blowjob that she still can taste Erika's pussy. I replied, "You're bisexual anyway, aren't you?" She said, "Yes. " I didn't know that. I just know the type. Body Shopper is full of gross generalizations and stereotypes. They work. By the way, as regards facial expressions and manner of speech, Summer is like a replica of Chella! It's uncanny! Summer claims to not know who Chella is, though someone else told her the same thing recently.

I dropped Summer back off. Cruised a bit, then called Erika and asked if she wanted to suck my dick. With a happy, respectful, and fairly enthused tone, she replied, "Sure. " Picked her up. Took her to my motel. Lied on the bed while she did her pig thing. Pumped into her facehole. Done. Took her to a different drug house, a block away from the one she stays at. They've been rotating her out and making her hook, so she's been spreading her money between that one and the one a block from it.

I informed Erika that Jessi and I had for months been, up until a couple of months ago, discussing on every date the reign of terror that Erika is wreaking upon me, Jessi, and the entire Silver City community and Johns. I told Erika that while yes, other girls get sick of me asking them questions about Erika, Jessi and Kerry do not! They, too, have their grievances with her, like I do. But the difference between Jessi and me is that everything I say behind Erika's back, I say to her face, too. I pointed that out to Erika. I told her that Jessi's entire speech to me in front of her was an act, and that Jessi hungrily brings Erika up in a negative way every time I see her, and that she networks with everyone she can against Erika, and that Jessi has a hatred of Erika that will never die! This is all true! That piece of shit had the audacity to try to paint herself as the good friend who doesn't want to be accosted by me on the subject of Erika, when she is the one who is rallying everyone against Erika! I'm done with Baby Jess.

I told Erika, during our second date, of a huge favor I had been planning on doing for Jessi, contingent upon her doing that motel date with me that she'd backed out of. It is a life-changing favor that I'm doing for Erika and no one else currently. I told Erika of my policy I've stated on this board before: I don't inform people when I'm planning on doing them a favor. I just let them be who they're going to be, and decide accordingly. I was hoping Erika would deliver that information to Jessi, though I didn't ask her to. I was delighted to find out the next day that she did! She said that Jessi claimed to not believe that I had been planning on doing that. I forgot to tell Erika, and will tell her next time I see her, that I had offered Jessi this same thing back in September, but Jessi had petered out, opting not to meet up and give the blow job that I required in order to do this life-changing favor. But Jessi had adamantly stated that she wanted this favor from me back then. So, she is lying when she says that she doesn't believe that she missed out on an opportunity of a lifetime.

I retired to my motel room and slept a night. Checked out yesterday morning and hit the stroll. Picked up Toothless Tabatha on Lincoln, between 10th and 12th streets, on the south sidewalk. We circled around through an alley, and at the mouth of the alley, there was Donna! I'd never met her, that I can remember, but I recalled you pigs talking about her being blind. Unsolicited, Tab said that Donna is blind, and that triggered my memory. Sure enough, Donna was standing there in the cold breeze, suffering, and looked blind in appearance, although she clearly still has some vision, as she looked at Tabatha even before Tab opened her mouth, and followed TT's face with her gaze as we drove away. Repaired to a spot of mine, and Tabatha sucked my member for probably 15 minutes or close to it. Eventually, a geyser of sperm came shooting out of my cock and into her pig throat. Done. Dropped her back off.

Did some other stuff around Milwaukee for a few hours, during the middle of which, Erika called me and asked me if I'm still in town. I replied in the affirmative, which she sounded totally relieved to hear. She asked for a ride from that guy's house to her dope dealer in Silver City. I told her that I could drive her in around an hour and a half. She sounded delighted and relieved. I picked her up two hours later. It turned out she had no money and was banking on doing a third date with me! Unbelievable, the gall! I told her that I am looking for new meat, and that she's welcome to accompany me while I monger, and maybe if she's lucky, I'll do a threesome, or do her after the one I pick up, or I will not find one suitable to my liking, and then Erika would get her date automatically. She agreed. Erika and Body Shopper cruised Silver City for the next hour and a half. Up and down National, Greenfield, and Lincoln avenue, over and over. I met one Rambo in the parking lot at Open Pantry on 11th & Greenfield. I asked her if she's trans. She chuckled and assured me she's not. I declined, nonetheless. Erika already knew her, but not personally. She's a National slore, Erika said. Erika was in my front passenger's seat the whole ride. I pulled up to a few different slores, and was uninterested in any of them. After cruising National and Greenfield, before cruising Lincoln, I fronted Erika 20 toward the date, so she could go in and buy her dope, like she'd been begging me to do the entire ride. She returned in 5 minutes, and we cruised Lincoln up-and-down a few times, between 7th & 13th. Nothing I was interested in. So, we repaired to one of my spots. Erika gave me an amazing, unearthly blow job! All three of the blow jobs she gave me this trip (one of which I fucked her at the end of, while I was shooting out cum) were very good, but this final of the three was absolutely fantastic! The best head that could ever be! After she was done with her initial several minutes of head-tonguing, and she was fully into the fast-paced up-and-down motion that I've known and loved Erika for all these years, I felt that adroit tongue flitting on the underside of my cock head every time her head went up. Erika is truly an amazing and gifted woman! I pumped off so hard. She drained me so thoroughly. I could feel that a larger load than usual was being vacated from my nut sack. It took me probably a full minute or two to catch my breath. Then, I asked her if that load was bigger than most of my loads. She said "yes". I said, "I thought so. " Her manual work on the testicles during the fellatio is superb, far above the average slore. Unfortunately, I still have to admonish her to work the nuts during every single blow job. I'm going to work on her more on that note. I still want her to incorporate that part of the blow job unsolicited (no pun intended). Her sucking and sroking of the cock is just out of this world. There aren't words that can describe how heavenly her blow job is! And that tongue flicking fast and skillfully on the underside of the head, every time her head rises while she's bobbing up and down fast. Someone who doesn't enjoy sucking cock doesn't get this good at it. She doesn't wax about her enjoyment in sucking cock like those of her counterparts who enjoy the act do. But be sure, you can see pride and joy on her face during a decent percentage of blow jobs. Also, on the phone a few days ago, she spoke again about her joy in sucking off married men. She said that some days she is apathetic, and others she is feeling cocky. On her cocky days, she feels victorious with every new husband or boyfriend she sucks, fucks, or strokes. During said phone conversation, she even reiterated her infamous statement: "I win. " So, if you want to spice things up during a date with her, I recommend you show her pictures of you with your woman, and, if you are so bold, call your woman up and have a nice phone conversation while Erika pumps your load into her hungry and capable mouth.

Cheating is life! Hookers are life! Variety is the spice of life!

In this game called life, the provider and her client win, and the client's wife loses.

The most beautiful female soul is the one who gets fucked by many men a day behind her faithful and loving husband's back, then delivers him a cream pie when he arrives home from work.

Body Shopper.

[NotLob]

Went out Monday about 1 pm. 2 WSW on 20th National, Summer, all bundled up, on 19th and Greenfield. Car And a little eager one coming out of the gas station on 13th Lincoln, but LE was just down the block plus, car didn't like the cold so didn't stop.

[TrollMongo]

Does she have short blond hair? I keep money in different pockets so I can pay exact change rather than pulling out a set of bills and showing I have extra.

I could have sworn I had another $10 but wasn't 100% sure. This confirms I wasn't crazy if it's the same girl.

She kept babbling about how horny she was, she was cumming, I was so big, I was so handsome. It was very fake, corny, and made her look stupid. If you girls read these, just shaddap and give a slight smile.

She always wears panty hose and a push up bra. She does look older. I posted photos of her not to long ago if you look back.

[Body Shopper]

Hate to be that one, but I like Chella and all, and she's played catcher on my team a few times, but her BJ is almost always toothy Is it just me?.

Yes, Chella's blow job is toothy, but not as toothy as some other girls out here, and she makes up for it with a lot of good techniques and most of all, dedication to producing the male orgasm. Chella is a good, hard worker who doesn't stop until the job is done. She's 18 for 20 or so. At any rate, I'm guessing we've done 20 dates, and she's only failed me twice. Blow jobs in my car, and suck and fuck motel dates.

[Body Shopper]

I know WSW Lolli is still out there working but I haven't seen her in year or so. I know because she got in trouble for hoeing last October and saw her pic and her face looks bad. I have never had a date with her even do I had many chances of scooping her up. Then when I did started to talk to her like 3 years ago she gave me her number and we set up a date just for me to get ghosted. She told me to pick her up from a place near the domes and when I got there she keep telling me that she was about to come out but she never did. I did pass on her in the past so I guess we are even huh. Just wondering if her body still looks ok? Has anybody had a date with her recently? And is she related to WSW Lola that has blonde hair?

Lola and Loli lie and say they're sisters, but they are not. Just like Erika lies and says that the blonde, thin, white streetwalker Maggie on Greenfield and National, who's in her 50's, is her mother, and that Bridgett, who died around a decade ago, was her half-sister. It's all lies. Erika isn't related to either of them. Though the old man Richard, who was in his 70's while Erika and Bridgett were in their 20's, got to enjoy both girls in plenty of threesomes in the glorious years preceding his death. That's what these seraphim are here on earth for: to give us men pleasure. That's all! Erika and Bridgett sapped his loads while the old Maggie was out. The pleasure of taking a man's loads behind a woman's back is one that Erika has enjoyed at the expense of many thousands of women. If she died today, she would have had a resounding victory at this video game we call Life.

[BladeCruiser]

After grabbing Diane, we went to an area I like to park North of National and she got to work, and work she did. She dutifully sucked me for well over 20 minutes until I finally got off. After we were done I realized I hadn't paid her, or even talked price yet, mainly cause we know each other fairly well. I reached into my pocket for the bills I had put there only 30 or so minutes previous and my pocket was empty. We checked the car thoroughly, between seats, under seats, etc. And it was nowhere to be found. Diane denied taking it, in fact offered to let me search her and her bags, pockets and all.

To my mind there is no where that cash went except into her hand while she was dutifully and skillfully working me over. She denied it of course. Didn't even argue about not "getting paid" and we parted on friendly terms. It is after all well known those girls will steal if given the chance and she is really good at it. My mistake after all, and it only cost me an extra $15 because I offered her 40 for all the extra hard work she did.

Does she have short blond hair? I keep money in different pockets so I can pay exact change rather than pulling out a set of bills and showing I have extra.

I could have sworn I had another $10 but wasn't 100% sure. This confirms I wasn't crazy if it's the same girl.

She kept babbling about how horny she was, she was cumming, I was so big, I was so handsome. It was very fake, corny, and made her look stupid. If you girls read these, just shaddap and give a slight smile.

[Body Shopper]

Saturday I headed for Milwaukee to see Nikki (see report in escort section) but I did do a little recon on the streets both before and after, and managed to make a rookie mistake in the process.

When I first got to town a little before 11:00 AM I made just a quick pass down Greenfield seeing 2 girls out in the windy, 20-degree temperatures but I was in too much of a hurry to get Nikki to a motel to recon any more. After spending over 3 hours with Nikki I was taking her back home and got off I-94 at Greenfield and headed West to where she was going near 24th. On the way I saw Diane standing at 15th and Greenfield. It was her birthday yesterday I later found out, she turned 53.

After dropping Nikki I headed back East on Greenfield from 24th Street to see if Diane was still there and sure enough she was. I've had a number of dates with her and she always seems to get me off no matter how exhausted I am from previous dates and this time was no exception.

Before picking her up, while I was Eastbound on Greenfield I removed my wallet, took two 20's, a 10 and a 5 out and put in the right side pocket of my jeans, then stashed the wallet. That's my S. O. P. When cruising as it's only $55 and I can pay any amount a girl might ask with correct change.

If Diana is the one I'm thinking she is- fake tits, fake roof of her mouth, stands on 15th & Greenfield, like you said, white, thin, and middle-aged- then she stole $5 from me, too. I picked her up a few times in 2017-2020, but stopped seeing her because of that. Then, I told her a couple of years later that I would let that theft go without retaliation, and that I would like to resume doing dates with her. She had been vying for a date with me the whole time, but when I reminded her that she stole that money, she began refusing to get in with me. And that's where we stand.

[TrollMongo]

Lola is an absolute gem! I've never had the pleasure of meeting Loli, but hearing they are sisters makes me want to meet her. I'd lose my mind with two Lola's! Are Loli's tits as magical as Lola's?

I remember Loli being nice and thin. Not skinny just a lot less of her than Lola. I've ask Lola several times about Loli but never got to much info. She says they are sisters and that she still works the street sometimes.

Your right about Lola, she is a gem. I've probably had 6 or 7 dates with her and she has no limits on what she will do or how long she will do it for.

[Filling79]

Saturday I headed for Milwaukee to see Nikki (see report in escort section) but I did do a little recon on the streets both before and after, and managed to make a rookie mistake in the process.

When I first got to town a little before 11:00 AM I made just a quick pass down Greenfield seeing 2 girls out in the windy, 20-degree temperatures but I was in too much of a hurry to get Nikki to a motel to recon any more. After spending over 3 hours with Nikki I was taking her back home and got off I-94 at Greenfield and headed West to where she was going near 24th. On the way I saw Diane standing at 15th and Greenfield. It was her birthday yesterday I later found out, she turned 53.

After dropping Nikki I headed back East on Greenfield from 24th Street to see if Diane was still there and sure enough she was. I've had a number of dates with her and she always seems to get me off no matter how exhausted I am from previous dates and this time was no exception.

Before picking her up, while I was Eastbound on Greenfield I removed my wallet, took two 20's, a 10 and a 5 out and put in the right side pocket of my jeans, then stashed the wallet. That's my S. O. P. When cruising as it's only $55 and I can pay any amount a girl might ask with correct change.

After grabbing Diane, we went to an area I like to park North of National and she got to work, and work she did. She dutifully sucked me for well over 20 minutes until I finally got off. After we were done I realized I hadn't paid her, or even talked price yet, mainly cause we know each other fairly well. I reached into my pocket for the bills I had put there only 30 or so minutes previous and my pocket was empty. We checked the car thoroughly, between seats, under seats, etc. And it was nowhere to be found. Diane denied taking it, in fact offered to let me search her and her bags, pockets and all.

To my mind there is no where that cash went except into her hand while she was dutifully and skillfully working me over. She denied it of course. Didn't even argue about not "getting paid" and we parted on friendly terms. It is after all well known those girls will steal if given the chance and she is really good at it. My mistake after all, and it only cost me an extra $15 because I offered her 40 for all the extra hard work she did.

Not long after that I headed for home as it was dark. I did see a few on Greenfield, including a thin kinda cute one right where I picked Diane up but didn't grab any more. I'm waiting for a pair of Ankle boots to come I just ordered for Nikki, then I'll be heading back for another motel date with her and some cruising, probably on the 31st.

I've only had one date with Diana, probably 5 or 6 years ago, but I won't for this very reason. She didn't get anything from me by pure luck. While she was working, I felt something on my lower leg. I reached down and there was her right arm in my hand, searching through my pockets. You're right, she does a fantastic job, but I won't pick her up for that very reason.

[Filling79]

Loli is the very first Milwaukee streetwalker I ever picked up. I posted photos of her probably 4 years ago but I guess this site doesn't keep stuff that far back as I can't seem to find it. She is in fact Lola's sister. Lola is only sometimes a blond though, personally I think she looks better with the dark hair, I have posted several of her with hair both colors.

Anyway, Lola is Fantastic, and from what I remember so was Loli although I've only seen her the one time. I would LOVE to run into her again.

Lola is an absolute gem! I've never had the pleasure of meeting Loli, but hearing they are sisters makes me want to meet her. I'd lose my mind with two Lola's! Are Loli's tits as magical as Lola's?

[TrollMongo]

Saturday I headed for Milwaukee to see Nikki (see report in escort section) but I did do a little recon on the streets both before and after, and managed to make a rookie mistake in the process.

When I first got to town a little before 11:00 AM I made just a quick pass down Greenfield seeing 2 girls out in the windy, 20-degree temperatures but I was in too much of a hurry to get Nikki to a motel to recon any more. After spending over 3 hours with Nikki I was taking her back home and got off I-94 at Greenfield and headed West to where she was going near 24th. On the way I saw Diane standing at 15th and Greenfield. It was her birthday yesterday I later found out, she turned 53.

After dropping Nikki I headed back East on Greenfield from 24th Street to see if Diane was still there and sure enough she was. I've had a number of dates with her and she always seems to get me off no matter how exhausted I am from previous dates and this time was no exception.

Before picking her up, while I was Eastbound on Greenfield I removed my wallet, took two 20's, a 10 and a 5 out and put in the right side pocket of my jeans, then stashed the wallet. That's my S. O. P. When cruising as it's only $55 and I can pay any amount a girl might ask with correct change.

After grabbing Diane, we went to an area I like to park North of National and she got to work, and work she did. She dutifully sucked me for well over 20 minutes until I finally got off. After we were done I realized I hadn't paid her, or even talked price yet, mainly cause we know each other fairly well. I reached into my pocket for the bills I had put there only 30 or so minutes previous and my pocket was empty. We checked the car thoroughly, between seats, under seats, etc. And it was nowhere to be found. Diane denied taking it, in fact offered to let me search her and her bags, pockets and all.

To my mind there is no where that cash went except into her hand while she was dutifully and skillfully working me over. She denied it of course. Didn't even argue about not "getting paid" and we parted on friendly terms. It is after all well known those girls will steal if given the chance and she is really good at it. My mistake after all, and it only cost me an extra $15 because I offered her 40 for all the extra hard work she did.

Not long after that I headed for home as it was dark. I did see a few on Greenfield, including a thin kinda cute one right where I picked Diane up but didn't grab any more. I'm waiting for a pair of Ankle boots to come I just ordered for Nikki, then I'll be heading back for another motel date with her and some cruising, probably on the 31st.

[TrollMongo]

I know WSW Lolli is still out there working but I haven't seen her in year or so. I know because she got in trouble for hoeing last October and saw her pic and her face looks bad. I have never had a date with her even do I had many chances of scooping her up. Then when I did started to talk to her like 3 years ago she gave me her number and we set up a date just for me to get ghosted. She told me to pick her up from a place near the domes and when I got there she keep telling me that she was about to come out but she never did. I did pass on her in the past so I guess we are even huh. Just wondering if her body still looks ok? Has anybody had a date with her recently? And is she related to WSW Lola that has blonde hair?

Loli is the very first Milwaukee streetwalker I ever picked up. I posted photos of her probably 4 years ago but I guess this site doesn't keep stuff that far back as I can't seem to find it. She is in fact Lola's sister. Lola is only sometimes a blond though, personally I think she looks better with the dark hair, I have posted several of her with hair both colors.

Anyway, Lola is Fantastic, and from what I remember so was Loli although I've only seen her the one time. I would LOVE to run into her again.

[ATW2020]

This sounds like Hershey but I don't think she had a kid from talking with her on my one date. She got flaky one time texting with her and then saw her a few times after but haven't seen her out if that is who you're talking about.

So was driving through the other night and saw a curvy BSW. Long straight hair and near the gas station. Waved so I drove around and missed her. Nearby was angel as she was thinking she was a stripper with the no parking sign nearby. Spinning and twerking. Over on gf, Kay was out. Waved and did a big circle around to see her but she was talking to 2 other girls and bike cops were out nearby. Never saw her again.

[MexxxiBrewer]

I know WSW Lolli is still out there working but I haven't seen her in year or so. I know because she got in trouble for hoeing last October and saw her pic and her face looks bad. I have never had a date with her even do I had many chances of scooping her up. Then when I did started to talk to her like 3 years ago she gave me her number and we set up a date just for me to get ghosted. She told me to pick her up from a place near the domes and when I got there she keep telling me that she was about to come out but she never did. I did pass on her in the past so I guess we are even huh. Just wondering if her body still looks ok? Has anybody had a date with her recently? And is she related to WSW Lola that has blonde hair?

[ATW2020]

Hi all, I've been wondering if you guys have see a BSW that has a big ass and thick thighs. Used to stay by McDonald's on National. Had a okay face and a tiny waist but with baby damage. Lovely personality. She also liked to dressing like a normal woman. Like if she wasn't in the business. I've been looking for but I haven't been able to find her again.

Sadly I didn't get a pic and the number she gave me didn't work. So if you guys seen her can you let me know?

She smelt clean, even no fish smell.

This sounds like Hershey but I don't think she had a kid from talking with her on my one date. She got flaky one time texting with her and then saw her a few times after but haven't seen her out if that is who you're talking about.