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01-14-25 03:20 #8751Senior Member

Posts: 1935No, Freesia is not working. One girl stole Freesia's pic in LA. Another girl stole Freesia's pricing in OC. Lots of business is trying to replicate success. At least with Jisoo, they tested her out first and confirmed she was good. Good job, that's how to do it. The problem with 80% of the other premium girls is they took random girls and added 50 to them, many of the girls weren't good enough. This included MILFs, below average girls, and worse. If you have a 380 girl, she needs to be better than the 300 girl, better than the 320 girl, better than the 350 girl. Not worse. No one will believe you next time. So the lesson is, test the girls out a week or two like Jisoo, like Daisy, like Freesia. Then when you confirm they're good, it's fair to charge more because there's intel and people can share some opinions. People knew Daisy and Freesia were good before their price went up. They didn't go in blind.
Originally Posted by Madickbiggs
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Do you know why I went and saw Daisy and I knew exactly how she looked and how she was? People who saw "Celine" told me. It wasn't a secret Daisy was Celine, so it worked. If I didn't know, I wouldn't have even bothered I don't toftt premium girls ever.
This is why you don't want to change a girl's name when raising prices. Keep the girl's name! Her biggest fans will still see her obviously. People who whined about Freesia's price increase weren't paying the new price to see her. The many other people who did see Freesia still, they were happy paying customers. A good agency will only care about the second group. Changing a girl's name screws the second group and only targets first group of whiners who definitely 100% do not want to be tricked into paying for the girl they were going to whine about. This is what the Barbie to Douwoo issue is really about.
There are some pricing pains in the weeks ahead. Some girls will survive higher prices, some girls wont. A few guys are going to be disappointed. This can be sorted out quickly if there is intel. It would be sorted out instantly if the best girls stop rebranding. Even looking at it from the greediest perspective on making the most money, the best girls should keep their name.
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01-14-25 00:56 #8750Senior Member

Posts: 1935I agree completely. I'll cautiously check those girls out if I know the reviewers. Every now and then, I walk in and she's as good as described. What am I supposed to say, all I can do is add my review to the pile. It goes both ways there.
Originally Posted by ResilientJohn
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The few times it happened, those girls made my top tier list and stayed there. Just saying. It would be different if random new people talked about a girl. The fact is, I know a few reviewers well enough that on word is enough from them. Three letters from you is all you'd need to say to me.
PS I once asked all of OC to pick some young girls for me. I said I will toftt and write reviews about them, I don't even care who you pick I will see them. You answered the call. This was your exact answer to me:
Evian, Rose, Baby Sugar, and Milky are pretty good in my book. Among them I'm curious what your take will be on Evian.
No idea who those girls were, I randomly picked the first one available.
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01-13-25 22:55 #8749Senior Member

Posts: 701You bring up a great point. Everyone should be skeptical when a girl only gets positive intel. I would say the same for the opposite too but the former seems to happen much more often (I. E. Hype). No one single girl is going to be everyone's cup of tea. Although I would be happy to be wrong here.
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01-13-25 22:43 #8748Senior Member

Posts: 701I had a girl legit fall asleep on me once. It was her first day and she arrived the day before from the motherland. Didn't get much sleep and the jet lag really screwed her up. I was spent already so just let her sleep and woke her up when time was up. She was mortified of course but I was OK with it considering her situation. She was extra special on our second visit so I guess it worked out for me in the end.
Originally Posted by Mmmmm00
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01-13-25 20:14 #8747Senior Member

Posts: 1935I figured it was something like that. For example, in my review I allude to that with "She is still learning but full energy and effort". Her BBBJ is just okay but she made good eye contact and had great attitude. I can't say she did that for others, but that's what I got. So I can see someone else won't be impressed and that's why I explained it that way. When I saw her, she wasn't busy and I was surprised at how much energy she had. No doubt at another random time if I visited, I wouldn't get that. Just how it is, every voice counts.
Originally Posted by Mmmmm00
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No one should feel guilty about speaking up. Your comments are especially important since she has so many positive reviews. We don't want guys to think a girl is all good and get disappointed. I can't help but say I had a good time, but I also list things about a girl that I think could be a deal-breaker for others. Things like "still learning" or "some plastic" or "talks more than I expect". I don't mind any of those things, in fact "still learning" is a plus for me but I'm in the extreme minority on that. Hope that makes sense.
Price increases
On another topic, for various reasons including the wildfires King Theoden is sending some of his HYAs south to OC for refuge. Don't worry, we'll take good care of them. There are still HYA in LA including new ones. If you are a HYA hunter, you may want to see them before they too seek refuge. Who knows, they might raise their prices when they go OC. In Barbie / Baby Peach's case, she got a name change plus price increase of 50 to 400 but our hero Aragorn held them off at the gates. She then changed her name back to Barbie and dropped her rate to 360 - an increase of 10. I believe the conversation at the gates went:
"A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we pay 50 more for a renamed HYA and toftt on 600 girls. But it is not this day. An hour of fun for just an average kkirl over 370. But it is not this day! - Aragorn
More or less. An increase of 10 is fine once a year, Barbie is worth it. A lot of girls have risen their rates 10-30 just a few days ago. Some new girls have very high rates. When Ericka changed her name to Hazel, I had to remove her from rosters a week since I want to stay out of rebrand drama. I just want to describe girls. With half the agencies increasing prices, I won't even describe a girl any more unless she is at least worth her price. Daisy being the only premium girl I know of worth it. Many, many others are not. The list is too long. Since Baby Peach is back to her name, I'd recommend her as another HYA in OC:
https://get9irl.com/BabyPeach Baby Peach aka Barbie 360 hr
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7145697 Ericka
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01-13-25 18:52 #8746Senior Member

Posts: 65Lime
Thanks for your post. I went to see Lime last week and she was absolutely fantastic. Super cute face, tight body (can see abs), hot MM's, sexy ass that when she was in doggy gave a fantastic view. Speaks great English, and overall was just a fun person to spend time with. I paid for all the upgrades and it was well worth it. BB, 2 x. Great kisser, paid solid attention to anything I wanted and was so damn hot. She's in that 23-25 age range and she's going to be on my rotation until she leaves town.
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01-13-25 16:03 #8745Senior Member

Posts: 174Shani
LOL. She's definitely silly / goofy but pretending to fall asleep is on another level sucks she did that to you. Totally believe she did that tho.
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01-13-25 15:57 #8744Senior Member

Posts: 174I feel I need to elaborate a bit. I wasn't trying to discourage others to go see Daisy. I think she's objectively probably one of the better looking girls out there. And with me was quite friendly and eager to please. Doesn't have GPS.
Originally Posted by DownloadX
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Sadly she just doesn't have what it takes to please ME. I didn't like her BBBJ and the intercourse was lackluster. Took me a lot of effort and focus to nut. Not why I hobby LOL.
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01-13-25 15:18 #8743Senior Member

Posts: 1935Thanks for speaking up. It goes without saying that HYA have low service for anyone used to MILFs. I warn about this in most HYA reviews, I think I've passed 100 mentions of it at this point, but it's an important warning. For example in my Daisy PLEASER here it is:
Originally Posted by Mmmmm00
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Keeping in mind Daisy is a HYA, if you are looking for a service queen you still need a MILF.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7158966 Daisy PLEASER
I'll name the exceptions when I see it with. For example Jenny being solid service and Baby Arin being service over looks, both HYA in my book. Obviously many MILFs being better, some not. Many people have sent me their tiered rankings and among HYA hunters, we tend to agree. Obviously, MILF hunters tend to have the opposite opinions which is natural and perfectly valid. But what MILF hunters think won't help us out, and likewise we even go out of our way to warn MILF hunters not to see our girls. We don't want them to be disappointed.
It's just my opinion, but Daisy is pretty good service "for a HYA". A lot of people have mentioned this. It's also good for you to share your bad experience, girls have to be consistent with every guy and we need as much data as possible. Especially since Daisy is premium priced, it just sucks if you get a bad experience with that combo. I believe you when you said you got bad service, I've been in the same situation where I got bad service from a girl other guys liked. It's going to happen with every girl. To illustrate, I did a meta review on Baby Arin:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7128229 Baby Arin is either very good or very bad
10 guys said she was great, 2 guys said she was simply awful. 0 guys said she was just okay! Zero! Let me go even further to illustrate:
Just adding my 2 cents on Baby Arin, as she's been touted on here as being great, but I had an awful time with her recently..Really lame as this board recommended her heavily, but I would certainly not recommend her.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6966215 Awful time with Baby Arin
I totally accept that he had an awful time, but in his words we suck for even recommending Baby Arin. That's how strongly he feels about it! Again, I do believe him when he said he had an awful time. I also believe the other 10 guys, too. That's just how it is and this is my proof of it. I saw her myself and she was wonderful. She last worked LV but is on break.
I guess this proves that we all need to just give our take, the more the merrier. You are not alone. Thank you.
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01-13-25 13:43 #8742Senior Member

Posts: 174Daisy
Agreed, HYA but terrible service. Wouldn't repeat based on service, not price. Nothing felt good to me.
Originally Posted by Ky1234
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01-13-25 10:37 #8741Senior Member

Posts: 71Shani over Baby Sugar
Shani has better tits, body and service. Baby Sugar has an attractive face but her ass is a little bit too flat and she is very skinny. Almost unhealthy looking. Service wise, she's not there. She survives based on her looks and being able to speak good English. Baby Sugar is pretty much a one and done for me. Shani on the other hand gets better with repeat visits. I have seen her 10 x already and will continue to do so whenever she is available. Hope this helps.
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01-13-25 02:06 #8740Senior Member

Posts: 255Agree with you that the BABY moniker is overused, but that doesn't mean she's not good. Baby Sugar looks young, I get it. Yami and Ji Young are old as heck but still better service and hotter than Baby Sugar.
Originally Posted by SsStuntCock
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I saw Doreen / Aileen and for those that like TOAS or Viki type body with younger prettier face, I would recommend.
She has plenty of reviews in the BAY and most are top notch.
I'm hoping she stays. But if not, will see her in the BAY.
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01-12-25 20:59 #8739Senior Member

Posts: 801Playful attitude
Oh, if that's what guys mean by "attitude," then, yes, I've seen Shani do that sort of thing. But it does seem more playful than anything else. From my experience, Shani puts a lot of energy into the first 30 minutes of a session, then she tends to get tired in the second half. She will pretend to fall asleep, as you note, or she will look for ways to relax with you, rather than initiating Round 2. (Not always, but sometimes.).
Originally Posted by SsStuntCock
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That seems normal to me. That's when I start suggesting additional things for us to do, rather than waiting for her to do it. And she always comes through nicely. Especially now with the BBFS and MSOG upcharges, I think Shani understands that she has to improve her performance if she wants her customers to spend nearly 500 per session. I'm happy to do that, as long as she continues to deliver such an enjoyable experience.
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01-12-25 20:38 #8738Senior Member

Posts: 801Does Shani have an attitude?
Yeah, that definitely happens over time. Shani, like any other girl in this biz, can get a bit jaded. I just checked TER and she has 156 reviews since the summer of 2022. She's been a busy girl.
Originally Posted by RockItAllNite
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That said, I kinda like a girl with attitude. As long as she doesn't push it too far and start acting like a moody girlfriend. LOL!
Anybody remember Suvini / Envy? She had a ton of attitude. She used to get mad at guys all the time for the smallest things. It was hilarious! She was insanely hot, so she could get away with it. (Damn, I just looked up Suvini on TER and it's been 10 years she was active. Time flies!
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01-12-25 20:16 #8737Senior Member

Posts: 1935Would Freesia drop her price to 350? You may not like hearing it, but Freesia could probably raise her prices. Just her. Since she isn't here, just a friendly reminder that only Daisy is worth 450/600. Other premium girls are overpriced.
Originally Posted by Bbaka10
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I won't list the overpriced girls it's too long. I could not find anyone to say their pricing made sense, even when they liked the girl. Especially on the 370-410 range there were much cheaper and much better girls. I do think if you have a lot of money, go ahead anyways. I just don't want regular guys to get burned and disappointed. Hope that distinction is clear.
Some of those girls are solid. There are also some fantastic HYA at the 300-350 base range right now. In several cases superior to higher priced girls. I hope every guy finds his girl.
Originally Posted by ResilientJohn
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BTW memes are just for laughs, please don't take them seriously.
100%. #1 kgirl of all time for me was 300 last year. Another one was 320. Lizza was 350, she and Daisy are pretty close on my repeat priority. There are zero girls worth over 350 base rate besides Daisy (i.e. Freesia is not working), and I had well over 100 visits this year. It's not a budget issue but simply "Is she worth it" because I can see a better girl for less, more often. Even with Daisy on repeat, I'm going to see Allie 5 times for each time I see Daisy. They're both worth seeing but it's not the same.
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