Kgirls Rebrands

[BonerAppetitty]

Ms Zina = Nuri.

Ms Kyss = OG Kiss.

Ms Hope = Carina.

Ms Bella looks like a rebrand.

Ms Hime finally adds BB upcharge option.

[BonerAppetitty]

I think she's a rebrand. I remember seeing those fake pics years before. Same case with Jodie. I feel like I have seen that name and similar fake pics before. Resilient John got intel that Jodie is not a rebrand, but that can only be certain if someone has seen many girls years before FOSTA too.

[BonerAppetitty]

Bridget = Nara (could be wrong here but 70% confidence).

Everly = Luna.

Dana = Olivia = Soy / Cosmo / etc.

Linda = Kai and I think she already gone.

[Download X]

The purpose of this forum is to exchange intel and see hot young Asian girls. We don't want to be fooled by rebrands and MILFs. We don't want to be retaliated for honest intel. Gate keeping is a violation of our rights.

In other words, if there are 108 Boners, we would be the Better Boning Bureau. We may even be able to suppress rate increase. We can for sure destroy rebranding and fake reviews. I choose the number 108 boners cause new girl is usually busy in first 2 weeks or so. That number can make quite an impact on new girl.

The nice thing about HYA is even borderline HYA are nowhere near MILFs by two dimensions. "Is she young" and "Is she good looking" are not that hard to call. Few would dare to call and old woman both, so it blocks the F-tier and generally prevents D and E tier. The definition of "30 and under with above average looks" for HYA is plain and simple, and it let me quickly grade other OC reviewers for relevancy. I immediately noticed 5 OC reviewers who were "gold standard" HYA lovers, so when one of them tells me Leslie K has a fantastic ass, that's exactly what I expect. Instant erection is the result. Out of respect, I will PM the rest.

About grading, we could rate "Is she young" as S = 20 and under, A = 25 and under, B = 30 and under, and so on. We could rate "Is she good looking" on my scale where average is in-between C and D, with B being a strict cutoff of "good looking". So B-B is the minimum, but we get that any honest person could call a C-B or B-C girl a HYA, even a C-C on occasion. But they tended to acknowledge it was a borderline call, or qualified it with fair justifications like "I like thick" or "I like short hair" and so on which make perfect sense, and are useful to anyone as long as they know to factor it out. I make it very clear I like skinny and cute, so you can drop any skinny and cute girl by 2 tiers of looks instantly to compensate. If I call a thiiiiick girl like Baby Terri a "borderline HYA if you like thick", it makes sense. She's a B-B girl if you like thick, B-C if you're neutral, or B-D through B-F if you are traumatized by thick. This is why descriptions on body size, age, hair, skin color, face vs body matter. There are guys who only care about hair length and skin color. To me, once you control for these factors explicitly you start getting a lot of consensus.

It needs to be said some girls are so beautiful that it doesn't matter your preference, you can't deny they are HYA. A negative Daisy review will go "She is a HYA but I didn't like her service". I can easily believe that, I got good service but I'm sure she gave someone else bad service. But if they said "She is not good looking" or "She is an old woman", I would let their own words be their indictment and say nothing more in reply. We could argue in circles about service, but not about HYA looks. You either have eyes or you don't.

In OC it is possible to strongly overlay 5-7 HYA hunter opinions on a girl and usually get a unanimous decision or close. Therefore, we can objectively call it most of the time through unanimous consent. Through this simple method, I could determine that 10%-20% of girls in OC were HYA by the strictest definition. Realistically 25% by a looser definition (allowing for 31-33, butterface with a good body, good face with no body, etc..). I personally always use the looser definition for decision-making, but publicly I play it safe. So I will say of those girls "she is close". I do not use alternative terms like CYA, PHYA, etc.. because we end up with an unclear message and subjectivity all over again. A girl is either HYA or not, a girl can be borderline/close to HYA or not. Remember, I also use HYA to grade reviewers so if they aren't 80% in agreement then they aren't useful. When I use a gold standard reviewers' intel, I succeed 100% of the time. It's not even close, because I'm actually happy with borderline HYA. It is a pretty high bar.

I've already explained in public why bookers can't really retaliate, since it would be against their very best customers who all know each other. What they will do instead is make vague threats. I've known people to get them, and I've spelled out clearly that a korg that follows through on threats would show they are unsafe. No one would ever use them again. This is a case where the dog can't bite, so it must bark and make uncomfortable statements. I would be happy to copy and paste any such DMs I get publicly, but they no longer send them to me after I explained it all. I made sure to post it on the LA forum since that's where they're from.

I have repeatedly also offered that any booker or agency that doesn't like a single thing I've said just needs to say the word and I will be happy to never mention them or their girls again. No one has taken me up on the offer. Well, the offer still stands. I'm seriousness, I only do things with consent anyways.

I think maybe 5% or 10% of girls can charge "whatever they want". If it's a short tour, it works. If it's a long tour, it won't. Believe me, they are reinventing the wheel on this corgs have done it for decades and know you can only do premium pricing with short tours or limited slots. It makes sense for a few girls, that's cool. For girls that want to make real money, they need long schedules at cheaper prices. Or to tour, but that has its own drawbacks. Oh the stories I could tell. Will PM. Touring only makes sense for mid girls or girls trying to escape bad conditions.

[BonerAppetitty]

I happen to see a heated discussion on bogus reviews, mongers right and double standards. I support mongers rights 100%. My white knight extent is just common decency toward a woman who works to please me.

The purpose of this forum is to exchange intel and see hot young Asian girls. We don't want to be fooled by rebrands and MILFs. We don't want to be retaliated for honest intel. Gate keeping is a violation of our rights.

I don't have double standards. Every monger is my bro and every HYA is my bae. If I can have an accurate assessment of most girls on looks, age, service, and rebranding, I would not hesitate to rank / out them all. I don't want to stick out like a sore thumb if I don't see many care.

In other words, if there are 108 Boners, we would be the Better Boning Bureau. We may even be able to suppress rate increase. We can for sure destroy rebranding and fake reviews. I choose the number 108 boners cause new girl is usually busy in first 2 weeks or so. That number can make quite an impact on new girl.

[BonerAppetitty]

That failure rate sounds about right. I never had to worry about rebrands and MILFs before FOSTA. Due to gate keeping, I can't wait for intel. Bookers and Boner Sense are what's helping me not to fail so much. I would rage quit the hobby or just do what you do if I wasn't happy TOFTT'ing.

Yup, I rarely TOFTT. A girl who has no reviews, no comments on this board, and no intel from trusted brothers is a high-risk proposition. Whenever I do it (maybe 4 or 5 times a year) the failure rate is around 80%. Which is different from the past. About 8 to 10 years ago, the hit rate was much better for new / unknown k-girls. And photos were more accurate, especially if the girls were handled by a trusted booker like J. Now, that's all gone downhill. A lot times, it seems the bookers don't even necessarily know who's good and who's not.

The last really excellent k-girl I saw based on zero intel was Arina. So sometimes it works out exceedingly well. But usually not. The best intel, of course, comes from trusted bros. Those recommendations are golden.

[BonerAppetitty]

I believe you and I haven't seen Mocha or Julli4/ Gem3/ Layla. Thanks for confirming.

Mocha is a different girl, but you are correct julli4/ gem3 was layla (I've seen both of them).

[BonerAppetitty]

I take rec from bookers cause they may know if a girl is HYA or not. Sure they / somebody can lie. That's why I still take 5 minutes to sense the Force before committing.

...On another note, I don't take booker recommendations because they almost never know how the girl will do. The good bookers will ask for feedback after a session because they only have what the owners tell them. These good bookers then tabulate and compile the feedback they get from customers that choose to share so they can give at least a better informed recommendation. There are not many bookers that operate that way cause it's a drain on their time and effort.

[Randy62]

I think Milk / Soda had other names like "Omar" or something in the past.

(as Milk) and (as Soda) 5'4" 106 lbs DD cup.

Are those wagons real? This looks tempting.

[Im Myself]

Is she also possibly currently 'Mocha', and previous as 'Layla'?

Mocha is a different girl, but you are correct julli4/ gem3 was layla (I've seen both of them).

[Resilient John]

Yup, I rarely TOFTT. A girl who has no reviews, no comments on this board, and no intel from trusted brothers is a high-risk proposition. Whenever I do it (maybe 4 or 5 times a year) the failure rate is around 80%. Which is different from the past. About 8 to 10 years ago, the hit rate was much better for new / unknown k-girls. And photos were more accurate, especially if the girls were handled by a trusted booker like J. Now, that's all gone downhill. A lot times, it seems the bookers don't even necessarily know who's good and who's not.

The last really excellent k-girl I saw based on zero intel was Arina. So sometimes it works out exceedingly well. But usually not. The best intel, of course, comes from trusted bros. Those recommendations are golden.

If you think about it, no one really knows how a girl will perform until she gets feedback from the customers. Not the booker, not the owner, or even the girl. She may have worked at places that catered to certain styles or had customers that were content with what would be considered a low bar here in Socal. So it really does come down to intel posted here and elsewhere to accurately gauge her service.

On another note, I don't take booker recommendations because they almost never know how the girl will do. The good bookers will ask for feedback after a session because they only have what the owners tell them. These good bookers then tabulate and compile the feedback they get from customers that choose to share so they can give at least a better informed recommendation. There are not many bookers that operate that way cause it's a drain on their time and effort.

[Taliesin92]

I get what you are saying cause I still admire chivalry and have respect for older generations. I was a legit white knight and would just chuckle if somebody called me a simp. Walking out / not is a personal decision.

As someone who may see a "new" girl on her first day / hour, I could have gotten the brunt of the deception. Worse, they may rebrand to raise rate. I don't care about much until I feel like they "cock block" me from legit new HYAs. You don't hobby the same way I do, so I can understand if you can't help. Only bros who TOFTT can help each other if they choose to. I try to help bros like me when I can, but my hobby style is not conducive with detailed reviews.

Yup, I rarely TOFTT. A girl who has no reviews, no comments on this board, and no intel from trusted brothers is a high-risk proposition. Whenever I do it (maybe 4 or 5 times a year) the failure rate is around 80%. Which is different from the past. About 8 to 10 years ago, the hit rate was much better for new / unknown k-girls. And photos were more accurate, especially if the girls were handled by a trusted booker like J. Now, that's all gone downhill. A lot times, it seems the bookers don't even necessarily know who's good and who's not.

The last really excellent k-girl I saw based on zero intel was Arina. So sometimes it works out exceedingly well. But usually not. The best intel, of course, comes from trusted bros. Those recommendations are golden.

[Slicer4]

Booker Gray double listed her as Julli4 and Gem3. Also known as Liac on other sites.

Is she also possibly currently 'Mocha', and previous as 'Layla'?

[BonerAppetitty]

Thanks for sharing so I don't have to. I knew it but it's good to have a quick take about her. She was someone I told Boner to hold his horse. I may still see her after checking out new HYAs.

Rebranded Doreen (BayKisses / SweetBobaTime) in the Bay is the latest example of orgs abusing the "Baby" moniker. You've been warned.

[BonerAppetitty]

I saw her recently. I think they were larger than C. I can't size it if larger than C. Could be wrong, but I think as voluminous as Momo tits. Not "very firm" and didn't remember feeling her implants, but I wasn't trying either. I thought her tits and ass were well done. Her Baby Peach P.S. Pics are how she wants to look like, I think. She seemed hotter than before, but that was just me. One of the few girls I thought still worthy of the Baby brand.

Search for "Barbie" in HYA and PLEASER threads if you want to see other recent reviews.

They really E Cups?

When I saw her last year, they were MM C's, maybe large C's if you give her the benefit of the doubt and very firm, not rock solid mind you but you can plainly feel them implants. Based on those that saw her as Barbie she has upgraded her tits and I hope they are done well this time. I was planning to see her cause it's quite rare for any kgirl to openly offer video but it looks like she's taken that off the menu and increased her base price. I'll vote with my wallet and just not see her. The Freesia effect is spreading and I don't like it one bit.