Agency Discussion

[DJrunner]

I know going in what expectations are and are not. My issue is saying the quite part out loud. She is a nice girl willing to please and inviting me to come back and visit again. What she stated was that she had a guy she dated through another SB site and instead of just dating the guy she was a money grubbing escort not looking for that. I have no problem just banging whoever, yet to hear that she is so jaded put at least myself off. Just goes to show you they define us like we do them, she is just a hole to fuck. You are just a trick, giving her money to get off. You good with that? If so. Continue.

A professional girl is the worst place to shop for a relationship that is anything more than a business arrangement. Oh, you will be left in pain after repeatedly being told she will take care of you forever. Its business man, and she is selling her assets while she can and will always opt out for higher pay better arrangement. Get real guys, a 30 year old will not make a great partner, you will get less sex and pay way more. You are in different stages of life. You leave the envelope, have your hour of passion, then walk out the door. If you think you are developing a feeling for her, don't go back. It does not end well, gentlemen.

[Nrlmus]

I too saw her this week and although very nice and aims to please I wasn't impressed at all with the body. Lots of loose skin in the stomach. Her ass wasn't as great as the photos on the website showed either. Good kisser, others have commented how great the BJ was yet to me it was average. What really turned me off is she stated that she was on seeking and was dating some old dude for a year, she was 18 he was 60. He provided this and that. Then she found another sugar daddy and he wanted to be monogamous with her yet she couldn't it was all about the money. She is not in itfor the long term, as she stated just for the money--a means to an end. Call me jaded yet after hearing that it was an ultimate turnoff.

I hear you man. I also have expectation of most of them looking for monogamous relationship and focus on making you happy instead of on making money.

A professional girl is the worst place to shop for a relationship that is anything more than a business arrangement. Oh, you will be left in pain after repeatedly being told she will take care of you forever. Its business man, and she is selling her assets while she can and will always opt out for higher pay better arrangement. Get real guys, a 30 year old will not make a great partner, you will get less sex and pay way more. You are in different stages of life. You leave the envelope, have your hour of passion, then walk out the door. If you think you are developing a feeling for her, don't go back. It does not end well, gentlemen.

Dude, I'm sorry that my sarcasm didn't come through clearer LOL.

[DownWind]

I hear you man. I also have expectation of most of them looking for monogamous relationship and focus on making you happy instead of on making money.

A professional girl is the worst place to shop for a relationship that is anything more than a business arrangement. Oh, you will be left in pain after repeatedly being told she will take care of you forever. Its business man, and she is selling her assets while she can and will always opt out for higher pay better arrangement. Get real guys, a 30 year old will not make a great partner, you will get less sex and pay way more. You are in different stages of life. You leave the envelope, have your hour of passion, then walk out the door. If you think you are developing a feeling for her, don't go back. It does not end well, gentlemen.

[Nrlmus]

I too saw her this week and although very nice and aims to please I wasn't impressed at all with the body. Lots of loose skin in the stomach. Her ass wasn't as great as the photos on the website showed either. Good kisser, others have commented how great the BJ was yet to me it was average. What really turned me off is she stated that she was on seeking and was dating some old dude for a year, she was 18 he was 60. He provided this and that. Then she found another sugar daddy and he wanted to be monogamous with her yet she couldn't it was all about the money. She is not in itfor the long term, as she stated just for the money--a means to an end. Call me jaded yet after hearing that it was an ultimate turnoff.

I hear you man. I also have expectation of most of them looking for monogamous relationship and focus on making you happy instead of on making money.

[DJrunner]

I too saw her this week and although very nice and aims to please I wasn't impressed at all with the body. Lots of loose skin in the stomach. Her ass wasn't as great as the photos on the website showed either. Good kisser, others have commented how great the BJ was yet to me it was average. What really turned me off is she stated that she was on seeking and was dating some old dude for a year, she was 18 he was 60. He provided this and that. Then she found another sugar daddy and he wanted to be monogamous with her yet she couldn't it was all about the money. She is not in itfor the long term, as she stated just for the money--a means to an end. Call me jaded yet after hearing that it was an ultimate turnoff.

Based on this review of this trusted source I booked with Cataleya and found her exceeding expectations. She is an exotic beauty who aims to please. A nice change from the usual stable of BI talent. I'll just say the visuals from every perspective are wonderful. The Cat is a great addition to the BIE lineup.

[Nrlmus]

Am I effing dreaming, or is this Alexandria getting boned in the new ad on this site?

[DownWind]

Just returned from seeing the BI's new girl Cataleya and this is by far the closest I've seen to Kimmy in the quality of BJ criteria IMHO! Great learner too. She had her tongue reaching the middle of my balls as she thrusted her mouth down. I asked her to freeze at base and see if she could move her tongue left and right liking the whole area of the balls a la Kimmy and guess what? She compiled with the request just fine! Great kisser too. I wish I could say more but particle wasn't cooperating the way it should have. Still this girl's got future in this business alright. I didn't even want to post because I was afraid that now I'm going to have hard time booking with her!

I knew it's going to happen before too long anyway though. Once the world finds out she's bound to be mobbed goddamn it.

Based on this review of this trusted source I booked with Cataleya and found her exceeding expectations. She is an exotic beauty who aims to please. A nice change from the usual stable of BI talent. I'll just say the visuals from every perspective are wonderful. The Cat is a great addition to the BIE lineup.

[Nrlmus]

Interesting. I had falsely assumed you were a spinner fan (5'5" 170_.

Well, come on man! Marie isn't the only woman I saw in this hobby LOL albeit she was the most memorable one. My goto sugar in Rio, the woman that I travel with while in Brazil is a big black mama with pretty face (imo of course) and sparkling smile. I think you're right in general though. I do have a tendency to prefer spinners but I really don't discriminate much in that department. To me it's more about their french kissing abilities and general vibe.

Kimmy is no spinner but a good looking woman who is also an awesome fuck and the best BJ of my life. Tina is your typical spinner but I don't think she's even in ball park with Marie looks-wise, despite being much younger. Cataleya is a Blasian chick whose skin color is black. She is not a spinner but has gorgeous face imo. I was also absolutely smitten by Rubia who is far from spinner. So yes and no. Spinner preferable I guess but it's way down on my list in importance.

[Dannymn]

Just returned from seeing the BI's new girl Cataleya and this is by far the closest I've seen to Kimmy in the quality of BJ criteria IMHO! Great learner too. She had her tongue reaching the middle of my balls as she thrusted her mouth down. I asked her to freeze at base and see if she could move her tongue left and right liking the whole area of the balls a la Kimmy and guess what? She compiled with the request just fine! Great kisser too. I wish I could say more but particle wasn't cooperating the way it should have. Still this girl's got future in this business alright. I didn't even want to post because I was afraid that now I'm going to have hard time booking with her!

I knew it's going to happen before too long anyway though. Once the world finds out she's bound to be mobbed goddamn it.

I wish I could read your review yesterday itself. Today is my last day before I leave for couple weeks vacation.

And I trust your reviews cause I remember going for Lily and before that Kimmy only based on your reviews.

Indeed I was feeling like a great itch yesterday but was not sure who to go to and ended up saving money but now I regret.

Hope when I come back she is available.

[Spill]

Just returned from seeing the BI's new girl Cataleya and this is by far the closest I've seen to Kimmy in the quality of BJ criteria IMHO! Great learner too. She had her tongue reaching the middle of my balls as she thrusted her mouth down. I asked her to freeze at base and see if she could move her tongue left and right liking the whole area of the balls a la Kimmy and guess what? She compiled with the request just fine! Great kisser too. I wish I could say more but particle wasn't cooperating the way it should have. Still this girl's got future in this business alright. I didn't even want to post because I was afraid that now I'm going to have hard time booking with her!

I knew it's going to happen before too long anyway though. Once the world finds out she's bound to be mobbed goddamn it.

Interesting. I had falsely assumed you were a spinner fan (5'5" 170_.

[Nrlmus]

Just returned from seeing the BI's new girl Cataleya and this is by far the closest I've seen to Kimmy in the quality of BJ criteria IMHO! Great learner too. She had her tongue reaching the middle of my balls as she thrusted her mouth down. I asked her to freeze at base and see if she could move her tongue left and right liking the whole area of the balls a la Kimmy and guess what? She compiled with the request just fine! Great kisser too. I wish I could say more but particle wasn't cooperating the way it should have. Still this girl's got future in this business alright. I didn't even want to post because I was afraid that now I'm going to have hard time booking with her!

I knew it's going to happen before too long anyway though. Once the world finds out she's bound to be mobbed goddamn it.

[Dmoai]

The following is copied from p411.com. See their website for more details.

Application Requirements.

In order to set up your Preferred411 account we may need personal information such as your name, phone number, and work information. The only exception is if you have at least two references from active P411 companions who are well-established in the community. Any personal information collected during the verification process is destroyed once we are able to approve your account.

[Nrlmus]

This was few years ago. BI took my P411 membership as reference. I don't remember all the details, but it was (still is?) possible to join P411 without providing any personal information.

I found an email from when I joined in 2021:

Thank you for your interest in our verification service, we look forward to having you join us!

We require the following information to complete the verification process. To prevent any delays in the processing of your application, please be sure to upload clear images that are large enough for us to view the required information:

Driver's License showing name and DAY of birth, on a piece of paper with the date hand written on it.

Proof of Self employment: llc / dba, ein, articles of incorp or similar government issued documentation.

Recent Utility bill, showing your full name and recent date.

Quite intrusive for sure but that's why most agencies and indies trust it. Not sure if anything changed since but in its favor P411 is not in the US and would be the only place which you'd have to share your private info with. I'd rather do that than to give it to some (or few) agencies, let alone any Indy.

[Dmoai]

I think BI would take P411 for verification but other than that it's either 2 (or 3 - I don't remember) references from providers with extensive track record on USASG or on TER, or your private info.

This was few years ago. BI took my P411 membership as reference. I don't remember all the details, but it was (still is?) possible to join P411 without providing any personal information.

[GoSailor41]

I think BI would take P411 for verification but other than that it's either 2 (or 3 - I don't remember) references from providers with extensive track record on USASG or on TER, or your private info.

The (still) on-going Boston Top Ten case with the owners + 28 hobbyists being dragged through the court system did have a major affect on Maya, as well as on desire of Korean agencies to reenter Boston market, especially considering the Boston Asian Dolls bust just 5 years beforehand.

BTW, I don't use P411 much anymore since I mostly see BI girls but sometimes it still comes incredibly handy. I highly recommend to everybody to have it. Not everybody takes it but greater majority of agencies and indies do. P411 is out of the country. It's the only time you'd have to provide your private info, and it saves you a lot of headache with verifications.

I completely agree about P411. Definitely worth it. Signing up is easy, verification wasn't bad at all. Once you have an account, that's it! Just keep renewing your membership. They are easy to work with too. I let my membership lapse for nearly 6 years when I took a break from the hobby but when I was ready to jump back in, they still had my membership info so I didn't have to get verified all over again. Great company.