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[RanManCan]

Much has been said about the decline in true amateurs on Seeking and I can confirm that is the case. I was last active on Seeking between 2017-2021. Being nowhere near the level of others like Ace McNasty or GoldenMan (amazing poster from back in the day), I look back and kick myself for not meeting up with the many MANY non-pro 18 year old and gorgeous college girls that were ready to meet. At the time the abundance reduced the urgency because I was juggling multiple dates and arrangements. The average age now seems to be closer to 30 than 18 and the women are all fake, either as scammers or just all plastic surgery.

I decided to scratch the itch and jump back on and got a conversation going with Kallie. She was very straightforward about meeting and asked for 600 allowance. Never had a goth / emo type of girl like her so thought "fuck it" and decided to meet her. On the positive side she's very nice and even prettier in person. Once we got to the room though it was all downhill because she's effectively a pro who insists on CBJ, nowhere near the experiences I used to have. Going from 18 year old taking a creampie on the first meet and going raw with almost 90% of dates to a CBJ completely turned me off from the date with Kallie and you can guess that I've turned down her messages asking to meet again. Of course she would want to when it's an easy 600 and delivering a boring ass date. I politely told her the CBJ was not doing it for me and she never budged from it so I've moved on. Compare that to the past when I was fucking this tall and slim 21 year old OC beach hottie who asked me if I wanted to take the condom off after I told her I didn't like the lack of sensitivity. I got twice as hard when she asked me if I wanted to fuck without it and slipped it off in a split second. Every meet after was bare and no questions asking. As long as you were respectful and hygienic girls never asked for a rubber.

This was both a report and a rant, the only option left seems to be striking up conversations in person. The social media thing has been suggested but I've had difficulty getting replies and clearly don't know the game well enough there. Good luck to everyone out there, hopefully my next report will be a better outcome!

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...c-cd8a4e87910a

Keep trying on Seeking, you just got a bad one. It takes some time to regain your spidy-sense to feel them out. You will start to detect the (semi) pros by the way they text, talk, and other actions. Kallie's profile is 5 months old, that's one indicator. Another is that her profile says "mutually beneficial arrangement" which is code for PPM, the newbies don't say this, though they expect it of course. Any girl that comes right out and asks for PPM or even throws out a number is a (semi) pro, which gets them ghosted from me. If they mention help, assistance, or nothing at all. . . That works better for me. I have a stable of very low mileage girls.

It takes time to land a newbie and there is a lot of competition. I find persistence over time works, both on and off the site. Don't forget to occasionally send a pic if they stop responding off-site, they forget what profile you are and what you look like. I even hold one of my best pics in reserve and send via DM if they're not responding on the site.

Next, develop the ability to say no in person. If they ask for rubber, and you don't want that, politely explain that you're looking for something more intimate and offer to call an uber or walk them to their car. Being willing to end the date usually does the trick. I could probably count on one hand the number of girls that actually left. The more options you have, the easier it is to say no to a particular girl.

[Noname101]

Much has been said about the decline in true amateurs on Seeking and I can confirm that is the case. I was last active on Seeking between 2017-2021. Being nowhere near the level of others like Ace McNasty or GoldenMan (amazing poster from back in the day), I look back and kick myself for not meeting up with the many MANY non-pro 18 year old and gorgeous college girls that were ready to meet. At the time the abundance reduced the urgency because I was juggling multiple dates and arrangements. The average age now seems to be closer to 30 than 18 and the women are all fake, either as scammers or just all plastic surgery.

I decided to scratch the itch and jump back on and got a conversation going with Kallie. She was very straightforward about meeting and asked for 600 allowance. Never had a goth / emo type of girl like her so thought "fuck it" and decided to meet her. On the positive side she's very nice and even prettier in person. Once we got to the room though it was all downhill because she's effectively a pro who insists on CBJ, nowhere near the experiences I used to have. Going from 18 year old taking a creampie on the first meet and going raw with almost 90% of dates to a CBJ completely turned me off from the date with Kallie and you can guess that I've turned down her messages asking to meet again. Of course she would want to when it's an easy 600 and delivering a boring ass date. I politely told her the CBJ was not doing it for me and she never budged from it so I've moved on. Compare that to the past when I was fucking this tall and slim 21 year old OC beach hottie who asked me if I wanted to take the condom off after I told her I didn't like the lack of sensitivity. I got twice as hard when she asked me if I wanted to fuck without it and slipped it off in a split second. Every meet after was bare and no questions asking. As long as you were respectful and hygienic girls never asked for a rubber.

This was both a report and a rant, the only option left seems to be striking up conversations in person. The social media thing has been suggested but I've had difficulty getting replies and clearly don't know the game well enough there. Good luck to everyone out there, hopefully my next report will be a better outcome!

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...c-cd8a4e87910a

[FarFarAway]

I have only been aware of 1 certified simp who gives SBs way too much, and he posts on this thread. No one called him out. I simply don't believe there is an epidemic of them making sugar go up. If anything, it is blogs where girls brag (=lie) about all the $ they are getting without doing anything.

Guys who are complaining about the sugar girls are asking for are almost certainly negotiating w / them electronically. Email or text. Dumb move. I only ever do it face to face. There are many reasons this works better, but just think about it. If you are just doing messaging online w / a girl, she will give you her top 'escort' price, as if you are a fug ugly dude she doesn't want to touch, because you might just turn out to be that. If she actually knows that you are a reasonable 'date', the price will be different, in my experience.

[StudBucket]

Here in Sac, I'm finding 28 year old 6-7's asking for $500-$600 PPM. That's top escort $s for a hour. I think I'm missing something. Better service, low mileage? I think $300 is more reasonable.

Wow, that is almost LA prices. But many here ask 600-1 k, 8 ss, 9's and 10's now ask 1200-2 k which I will not participate in. You can thank the simps that have killed the market everywhere in the US and driven up prices. These are the same dudes that throw dollars at chicks on Only Fans or Cam Shows and beat off. So that spoils these girls. Also, if a girl gets 500 or 1k from a dude, then its hard for them to go back to a lower price and get jaded, even if they are 6s or 7s. Remember, a lot of these gals don't have good business sense and can be stubborn. I think if you can negotiate 2 pops or even overnights at 5 to 600 hundred its not a bad price. If its 1 hour though, yes you may as well find cheaper escorts on Listcrawler, PD or other sites.

[HollywoodGuy]

This is great advice, you must be able to qualify them more than ever. I am seeing more girls wanting platonic, expectations for getting paid for meet and greets, and general time wasters. What is the motive behind these girls wanting to go on platonic dates using Seeking? I am not getting it. I mean after all, a good majority will be going out with much older guys, and I am not certianly looking to wife up at this point in my life; been there , done that, lol. I will copy / paste this opener for all girls I am going on a date with.

Well it works to everyones advantage.

1 - she could completely ghost you, no problem.

2 - she could say "so you are not paying for my time to do nothing (so to speak)". That's right baby, but then the negotiations begin and many times work out just fine.

3 - they say no problem, I like that, when can we meet.

[Coca Cvs]

Here in Sac, I'm finding 28 year old 6-7's asking for $500-$600 PPM. That's top escort $s for a hour. I think I'm missing something. Better service, low mileage? I think $300 is more reasonable.

Stay strong, and don't pay. Hopefully the market corrects itself.

[GuardMan]

Here in Sac, I'm finding 28 year old 6-7's asking for $500-$600 PPM. That's top escort $s for a hour. I think I'm missing something. Better service, low mileage? I think $300 is more reasonable.

[Coca Cvs]

This is great advice, you must be able to qualify them more than ever. I am seeing more girls wanting platonic, expectations for getting paid for meet and greets, and general time wasters. What is the motive behind these girls wanting to go on platonic dates using Seeking? I am not getting it. I mean after all, a good majority will be going out with much older guys, and I am not certianly looking to wife up at this point in my life; been there , done that, lol. I will copy / paste this opener for all girls I am going on a date with.

The motive behind these girls wanting to get paid for a platonic date is that they want to get paid as much as they can for doing as little as they can. It's a common mo everywhere now tbh, and sadly, some simps will bend over and ruin it for the rest of us.

[FarFarAway]

I understand there is no place to enter discount codes on seeking now. This is a problem for me, the prepaid card that I get to purchase my membership, Blackhawk, comes in 50 and 100 denominations. If there is no discount, I can't get membership on one card.

[StudBucket]

Prior to meeting anyone, if the girl is saying yes to a date but you are unsure if she gets the drift of what a sugar date really means (and usually all before ever txting yet). Just send this message.

"OK. And I doubt I need to say it. But just to be clear. If we only go eat or hang out. And that's it. Then I will only cover any out of pocket dating expenses. But if it goes beyond that to an intimate date, then I will add in the allowance. Like a meet up that could turn into something more or not, depending on how we vibe. And hopefully we do.

So if you're OK with that, then lets txt. (number included)".
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This is great advice, you must be able to qualify them more than ever. I am seeing more girls wanting platonic, expectations for getting paid for meet and greets, and general time wasters. What is the motive behind these girls wanting to go on platonic dates using Seeking? I am not getting it. I mean after all, a good majority will be going out with much older guys, and I am not certianly looking to wife up at this point in my life; been there , done that, lol. I will copy / paste this opener for all girls I am going on a date with.

[CouldntBeMe]

You're going to love her! If you love wasting money and time or both. A mere $300 for a boring non-intimate date with no chance of future intimacy! Sign up here:

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...b-9afb256bd766

[HollywoodGuy]

Definitely is a big change. For a long time some of the best (and most affordable) sex was with these girls.

They all ask for more but you can get them for $$ and $$.5 at the most. Still double from what it was back when.

[Berol Loz]

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Side note these Black young honeys wanting these high amounts is a big change from the norm and also not providing GFE or any intimacy at all for the first couple dates. The most I've spent on 18 to 20 year old Black girls is usually 100 average, GFE, everything bare, multiple hours, pics and video. Some hot and some cute.

Definitely is a big change. For a long time some of the best (and most affordable) sex was with these girls.

[Berol Loz]

Would anyone with an active account get me the information on the person below? It would be much appreciated.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...7-736794c53639

I can see her profile; what kind of information are you looking for? If she's blocked your account, then having someone else contact her on your behalf it's going to do much.

[HollywoodGuy]

"Very sweet Au Pair from the Caribbean; no transportation and lives close to Brentwood. Doesn't ask for money, but she explicitly says on her profile that she is seeking a sugar relationship, so I assumed intimacy was on the table. She claimed she had to go home after our date because she had work early the next day. She was open to another date but the moment I implied that I wanted intimacy, with a generous compensation of course, she stopped responding. Maybe I played this the wrong way, and she hasn't been back on the site in more than a week. Oh well."

Prior to meeting anyone, if the girl is saying yes to a date but you are unsure if she gets the drift of what a sugar date really means (and usually all before ever txting yet). Just send this message.

"OK. And I doubt I need to say it. But just to be clear. If we only go eat or hang out. And that's it. Then I will only cover any out of pocket dating expenses. But if it goes beyond that to an intimate date, then I will add in the allowance. Like a meet up that could turn into something more or not, depending on how we vibe. And hopefully we do.

So if you're OK with that, then lets txt. (number included)".

In my case this rarely ends up with any money spent on the M&G as I rarely agree to anything more than a coffee date or just chatting in the car. Maybe half a dozen times in 20 years I actually did a dinner date/lunch date.