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  1. #18140
    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    She was highly skeptical of my advice and said I was trying to trick her or manipulate her. I said no think about there are only so many guys in the club on a given day, each additional or new girl is competition for the existing girls.

    I didn't see her again for about six weeks. When I did she recognized me instantly and came walking over and said everything I warned her about was true, and she wants to go to the VIP and make it up to me. She asked what I thought is a fair price? I said $200 for everything, and she said she is giving me a discount for telling her the truth. We did many VIPs at $180 for the next year.

    MM.
    Awesome story, MM. Your wisdom once again abounds.

    I think this is one of those "to each their own" things.

    I have always been more into the MILF-ish types, mid 20's to late 30's with curves, even when I was younger. There's something about a mature, smart woman who understands sensuality and flirtiness that turns me on, plus the added option of using whatever she has beneath her shoulders to help make things happen. There's stuff you can do with D-cup women you can't do with A-cup ladies.

    There are a lot of hot, young airheads. Not my type. In my experience, most women gain a certain confidence and sexiness with maturity. I'm not going to take a young, innocent 19-year-old and turn her into Mrs. Robinson in one night.

    That's not to say there aren't some young women who have mastered sexiness, or older ladies who aren't either past their prime or just old and tired. But deal with enough dancers and, while you keep an eye open for exceptions, you identify certain traits that go together most of the time.

    As for the creepiness factor, I'm not all the way there yet, but I'm to the point now where if I see a "wristband girl"* I know I'm going to have to talk to her and feel things out. If she seems a little too innocent for her own good, I'll probably pass. I pay to take classes, not be the teacher. Even the best rookies don't have the game experience the veterans do to know how to perform at the highest level.

    It's also part of the reason I think these idiot guys out there looking for women who have remained a virgin or have been saving themselves for one man are off their rocker. Forget that. Give me a woman who knows what she's doing and has had practice. I wonder how many of those guys are surprised when they find out their lady has no clue what to do in bed and the only way out is through a divorce lawyer. At least if you get an experienced woman, you know what you're getting into and, if you're open-minded enough, you allow each other to get experience with whoever, however and are fine with it.

    * - maybe or maybe not in Detroit, but many clubs will make girls under 21 wear a wristband to show they're not legal drinking age.

  2. #18139
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctimonious6  [View Original Post]
    I can understand the inexperience issue, but not the creepiness issue.
    I suggest all of you older experienced guys, impart some of your wisdom and teach a new inexperienced girl what a guy likes. She can't read your mind. Teaching a new girl can be very enjoyable.

    And the other girls in the club are most likely to point her in the directions that hurts her earnings and bumps up their earning.

    I happened to meet a girl one time in the club it was her second day working and was 18 years old. She told me all the girls where super nice and friendly. This is not usually my expectation of peelers. She said some of the girls were even coaching her and helping her. For example they told her the price for everything was $600. If she went for lower that would be unfair to the other girls. They all have to keep the price at $600. I told her the going rate is less than half that number. I said lets just sit here and watch the VIP, and we watch girls take guys in I say do you really think all those guys are spending $600. She said maybe they are just doing dances or BJ. I told her that my advice to her was to keep asking for $600 and see how many times she gets taken up on it.

    I told her that she is a beautiful young girl and many guys will want to go to the VIP with her, but most will say no at such a high price. That is really the price s a girl says when she doesn't want to go to the VIP. Many guys only want to go if the girl wants to go. But consider that other girls who are your new friends and can also see you are beautiful young girl that many guys want to go with you, but if those guys don't go with you then they may go with the other girls as a second or third choice when they offer a much lower rate than you do.

    She was highly skeptical of my advice and said I was trying to trick her or manipulate her. I said no think about there are only so many guys in the club on a given day, each additional or new girl is competition for the existing girls.

    I didn't see her again for about six weeks. When I did she recognized me instantly and came walking over and said everything I warned her about was true, and she wants to go to the VIP and make it up to me. She asked what I thought is a fair price? I said $200 for everything, and she said she is giving me a discount for telling her the truth. We did many VIPs at $180 for the next year.

    MM.

  3. #18138

    Hazel at HVIII

    Quote Originally Posted by EFromMI  [View Original Post]
    I arrived about 5 pm, was pretty disappointed with the girls I seen but hoped there were some smaller ladies that were not out on the floor. Hazel was called on stage she is mid 20's slim gal. I tipped her on stage and after her set she came and sat with me, we had a very nice conversation for probably half hour. We went to the back and she provided a fantastic session, I paid 200 I hope to repeat soon.
    I agree even I was disappointed with quality of girls but Hazel was smoking hot. I think even I was there when she was performing on stage and tipped her to get ig I'd as I was leaving and not interested in doing anything at back since HVIII private areas very cramped and not enjoyable. I think she is open to OTC sessions. Will can setup something.

  4. #18137

    Not a Creep

    Quote Originally Posted by HornKnee  [View Original Post]
    For some guys, if you're old enough, an 18 year old can seem like a kid. That can make some men feel like a creep. I don't have a problem engaging with an 18 year old in these clubs; if she's hot and selling, I'm buying. But I can totally understand guys who feel weirded out.
    Yeah, I admit it, sometimes I feel a bit like a Creepy Old Man, but after I think about it, I get over it.

    Here's a funny story about guys getting older, and how we view women. Many years ago, Howard Stern had a TV show on the E Channel, and was talking with Norm McDonald, who was telling a story about when he was a kid.

    Norm: "Hey Grandpa, do you and Grandma still. . . . You know. . . . (Norm pointing his index finger of one hand, into the circle of the thumb / index finger of the other hand, indicating do you still screw)".

    Grandpa: "WHAT? ARE YOU KIDDING ME, LOOK AT HER!" (indicating disgust of Grandma's appearance).

    Howard and Norm went on to talk about no matter how old and decrepit a man gets, in his mind he's always a 20-something Stud, always attracted to the 20-something hottie (or 18-19).

    Well, it was a lot funnier than I can describe here, but it's spot on for this old, decrepit guy (but in my mind I'm only 20-something LOL).

  5. #18136

    Henry VIII

    I arrived about 5 pm, was pretty disappointed with the girls I seen but hoped there were some smaller ladies that were not out on the floor. Hazel was called on stage she is mid 20's slim gal. I tipped her on stage and after her set she came and sat with me, we had a very nice conversation for probably half hour. We went to the back and she provided a fantastic session, I paid 200 I hope to repeat soon.

  6. #18135
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctimonious6  [View Original Post]
    I can understand the inexperience issue, but not the creepiness issue. For me, if she's legal, I'm in. But yes, it does increase the odds that her skills are subpar.
    Amen to that! Funny how we hear the term 'creeper' but a term like 'creepette' is never brought out for the elderly, 20 years past their prime women.

  7. #18134
    Quote Originally Posted by HornKnee  [View Original Post]
    For some guys, if you're old enough, an 18 year old can seem like a kid. That can make some men feel like a creep. I don't have a problem engaging with an 18 year old in these clubs; if she's hot and selling, I'm buying. But I can totally understand guys who feel weirded out.
    I'm with you. If she's legal and willing, I'm a buyer as well. Experience definitely lacked with the 1 18 yo I've fucked at these clubs. But not a deal breaker for me considering her body count from her second day on the job compared to a girl who's been dancing for 5+ years and the plethora of dicks she's taken. Great thing about this hobby, I keep getting older, and they stay the same age! My best experiences are with the 22-25 yo. But I do enjoy seeking out the newbies when I visit these places. Under 21 is hard to find. Happy mongering.

  8. #18133

    Trip Report for Friday

    Went to SC, Bogie's and HVIII didn't find anything I wanted to bone or the few I did, did not do bare anything.

  9. #18132
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctimonious6  [View Original Post]
    I can understand the inexperience issue, but not the creepiness issue. For me, if she's legal, I'm in. But yes, it does increase the odds that her skills are subpar.
    For some guys, if you're old enough, an 18 year old can seem like a kid. That can make some men feel like a creep. I don't have a problem engaging with an 18 year old in these clubs; if she's hot and selling, I'm buying. But I can totally understand guys who feel weirded out.

  10. #18131

    Hey 19

    Quote Originally Posted by Degasa9976  [View Original Post]
    My only thought on that is that I know she's young, so just not a lot of experience. I was talking to her a while back and when I found out she was 19 that kinda killed it for me. I don't feel like a creep all that often when I'm at the club but I definitely did then.
    I can understand the inexperience issue, but not the creepiness issue. For me, if she's legal, I'm in. But yes, it does increase the odds that her skills are subpar.

  11. #18130
    I don't ask their age but I usually hint around during our normal conversation and they will often end up on their own telling me their age, it doesn't matter to me though because either way I can't tell the difference between 19 and 25.

  12. #18129
    Quote Originally Posted by Degasa9976  [View Original Post]
    My only thought on that is that I know she's young, so just not a lot of experience. I was talking to her a while back and when I found out she was 19 that kinda killed it for me. I don't feel like a creep all that often when I'm at the club but I definitely did then.
    This is why young girls lie and say they are 22.

    MM.

  13. #18128

    E. P. In D Clubs?

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSpy56  [View Original Post]
    First off Hello, long time reader and fan of this page! Thanks to everyone who shares and apologizes for not sharing as often! But anywho I love seeing random videos on the web of places I have visited and girls I have seen before! This is not my video nor is it me in the video! But man oh man that girl is hot!

    https://thotslife.com/emily-primrose...-video-leaked/
    OMG, if she is available and working in Dt area clubs, please share.

  14. #18127
    Quote Originally Posted by PinheadLarry  [View Original Post]
    She quoted 3. Her head game was teethy and she wasn't into her hips being grabbed or certain positions, etc.

    She's definitely hot and always aggressive in the crotch-grabbing, but I recommend discussing everything at the table before heading back.
    My only thought on that is that I know she's young, so just not a lot of experience. I was talking to her a while back and when I found out she was 19 that kinda killed it for me. I don't feel like a creep all that often when I'm at the club but I definitely did then.

  15. #18126
    Quote Originally Posted by PinheadLarry  [View Original Post]
    She quoted 3. Her head game was teethy and she wasn't into her hips being grabbed or certain positions, etc.

    She's definitely hot and always aggressive in the crotch-grabbing, but I recommend discussing everything at the table before heading back.
    The other day she asked me for 400. After some back and forth she agreed to 250. After a long BJ. Pretty sure she was trying to get me off that way but like Larry said it was pretty teethy. She hesitated before the main event, insisting that I should give her 300 and not what we'd agreed to. (I hadn't paid her anything yet.) To her credit she didn't pull a ROB when I insisted and did proceed to FS. But she was pretty uninspired after that.

    I went with her that afternoon because for my taste she was the hottest girl in the club among a pretty mediocre lineup. But I wouldn't repeat after that experience.

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