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  1. #18116
    Anyone know if Nicole is still at H8?. Last few times I called over the past couple of weeks they kept saying she's not in. Figured she may be elsewhere now?

  2. #18115
    Quote Originally Posted by Degasa9976  [View Original Post]
    So I've got a bit of an unusual situation going here. I'm going to refrain from giving specific names due to the personal nature of this one.

    I met this girl at one of the clubs and had an early VIP experience with her. She's super hot but not my normal type, but I've visited her a few times. A month or so ago I visited her and went to the VIP for extras. Something happened about halfway through and she went from the quiet girl I'd known to a bit more aggressive, starting to get loud even. I'm going to be honest, it most definitely wasn't anything I was doing. I enjoy the girls doing all the work when it's a paid engagement.

    From that point on her texts went from "Hey are you going to come visit?" to pretty frequent "I need you" and "I will come in any day you can make it in, I need to see you" and even more graphic stuff. I figured it was just typical sales tactics, finally decided to go in last week and see her again. It was nuts, the second she saw me she was on me with her hand exploring. I told her I only had $. 5 so couldn't really afford a VIP trip, and she didn't even wince. Just grabbed my hand and took me to the room. And it was an experience. I don't think I've ever had anyone as aggressive, even had her tongue so far down my throat I think she could taste my lungs.

    I'm hoping this is just "he's a regular so I feel more comfortable with him", because I know she's not actually into me (I tried to convince her to do OTC and no dice), but it's odd how she went from 0 to 60 on it. My slight paranoia is that she is not a US citizen so she's looking for a way to stay in (Not a Cuban, just not a US citizen).

    Any red flags I should look out for? Or just enjoy the ride?
    D99,

    Enjoy it, this doesn't sound that unusual to me.

    She sounds like a real gem.

    The important information. Is early VIP experience.

    There is an evolutionary cycle most girls go through. I wrote a whole essay on this topic.

    But the short version is many girls start at Stage 1 thinking they can dance on stage, grind in the VIP and maybe allow a couple guys to suck their tits. She is shocked and thoroughly offended about how many of us would like to enjoy her. Typically in this stage she has to be coaxed into the VIP.

    Then she begins to understand how the other girls operate and maybe it is not so bad and she moves to stage 2. She is still shocked but no longer offended and has a small group of guys she decides she likes and are decent guys who she might be friends with outside the club instead of all the assholes she is meeting in the club offering her lowball prices for maximum service. This is the stage she often tries to build regulars with guys where were nice to her or decent with her during stage 1.

    By the time she reaches stage 3 she is happy to go to the VIP with virtually any guy for almost any activity, unless there is something she dislikes or finds objectionable about you. She is neither shocked or offended but expects guys to behave this way towards her. She often is disconnected and see guys as ATMs.

    You my friend seem to have caught a girl transitioning from stage 1 to stage 2. This is a great time to be with her, and often this stage doesn't last long. I would tell you her feelings toward you are genuine for whatever the reason she likes you and she likes giving you pleasure, and taking you to the VIP is how she makes her money. She does not want to see you outside the club because she is still a clean girl in her thinking, she has rationalized that if you were not seeing her in the club she might see you for free outside the club. That allows her to have great sex with you and at the same time not want to see you outside the club.

    My advice to you is try to find a second or third girl this into you. They are rare but when you find them spend as much time as you can afford with her. She will harden up soon enough.

    MM.

  3. #18114
    Quote Originally Posted by Degasa9976  [View Original Post]
    Any red flags I should look out for? Or just enjoy the ride?
    Two scenarios come to mind. One, this is just how she keeps guys on the hook, so yeah, enjoy it. If you want to test this, PM me her name and I'll see if it works for me too LOL. Second, maybe you're seriously packin' and that's what she's into, but you're too modest / ignorant to mention it. :-D Either way, sounds like fun. GL!

  4. #18113
    Quote Originally Posted by Degasa9976  [View Original Post]
    So I've got a bit of an unusual situation going here. I'm going to refrain from giving specific names due to the personal nature of this one.

    I met this girl at one of the clubs and had an early VIP experience with her. She's super hot but not my normal type, but I've visited her a few times. A month or so ago I visited her and went to the VIP for extras. Something happened about halfway through and she went from the quiet girl I'd known to a bit more aggressive, starting to get loud even. I'm going to be honest, it most definitely wasn't anything I was doing. I enjoy the girls doing all the work when it's a paid engagement.

    From that point on her texts went from "Hey are you going to come visit?" to pretty frequent "I need you" and "I will come in any day you can make it in, I need to see you" and even more graphic stuff. I figured it was just typical sales tactics, finally decided to go in last week and see her again. It was nuts, the second she saw me she was on me with her hand exploring. I told her I only had $. 5 so couldn't really afford a VIP trip, and she didn't even wince. Just grabbed my hand and took me to the room. And it was an experience. I don't think I've ever had anyone as aggressive, even had her tongue so far down my throat I think she could taste my lungs.
    If you're not married or without any commitments. Go for it. If she's not a US citizen you're in luck. She probably gets more benefits than you.

  5. #18112
    Quote Originally Posted by SamPerkins420  [View Original Post]
    This is obviously not par for the course, so I'd say enjoy it as much as you can for as long as you can.

    Two things: 1, don't get emotionally attached to her. Like at all. Even if she seems to be getting emotionally attached to you, keep in mind she's literally a prostitute in a club and this is her job.

    2, always wear a rubber, or at least do NOT bust inside her. Last thing you need is to be knocking up a prostitute.
    Yep neither of these are a problem. I've only done BB a couple times and they were both early on in this hobby when I let booze get the better of me. Now I cut back so I've made some questionable decisions about my VIP pick for the night, but I keep the soda pop bottle lid on the pepsi at all times.

  6. #18111

    Enjoy the situation

    This is obviously not par for the course, so I'd say enjoy it as much as you can for as long as you can.

    Two things: 1, don't get emotionally attached to her. Like at all. Even if she seems to be getting emotionally attached to you, keep in mind she's literally a prostitute in a club and this is her job.

    2, always wear a rubber, or at least do NOT bust inside her. Last thing you need is to be knocking up a prostitute.

    Quote Originally Posted by Degasa9976  [View Original Post]
    So I've got a bit of an unusual situation going here. I'm going to refrain from giving specific names due to the personal nature of this one.

    I met this girl at one of the clubs and had an early VIP experience with her. She's super hot but not my normal type, but I've visited her a few times. A month or so ago I visited her and went to the VIP for extras. Something happened about halfway through and she went from the quiet girl I'd known to a bit more aggressive, starting to get loud even. I'm going to be honest, it most definitely wasn't anything I was doing. I enjoy the girls doing all the work when it's a paid engagement.

    From that point on her texts went from "Hey are you going to come visit?" to pretty frequent "I need you" and "I will come in any day you can make it in, I need to see you" and even more graphic stuff. I figured it was just typical sales tactics, finally decided to go in last week and see her again. It was nuts, the second she saw me she was on me with her hand exploring. I told her I only had $. 5 so couldn't really afford a VIP trip, and she didn't even wince. Just grabbed my hand and took me to the room. And it was an experience. I don't think I've ever had anyone as aggressive, even had her tongue so far down my throat I think she could taste my lungs.

    I'm hoping this is just "he's a regular so I feel more comfortable with him", because I know she's not actually into me (I tried to convince her to do OTC and no dice), but it's odd how she went from 0 to 60 on it. My slight paranoia is that she is not a US citizen so she's looking for a way to stay in (Not a Cuban, just not a US citizen).

    Any red flags I should look out for? Or just enjoy the ride?

  7. #18110

    What am I missing here?

    So I've got a bit of an unusual situation going here. I'm going to refrain from giving specific names due to the personal nature of this one.

    I met this girl at one of the clubs and had an early VIP experience with her. She's super hot but not my normal type, but I've visited her a few times. A month or so ago I visited her and went to the VIP for extras. Something happened about halfway through and she went from the quiet girl I'd known to a bit more aggressive, starting to get loud even. I'm going to be honest, it most definitely wasn't anything I was doing. I enjoy the girls doing all the work when it's a paid engagement.

    From that point on her texts went from "Hey are you going to come visit?" to pretty frequent "I need you" and "I will come in any day you can make it in, I need to see you" and even more graphic stuff. I figured it was just typical sales tactics, finally decided to go in last week and see her again. It was nuts, the second she saw me she was on me with her hand exploring. I told her I only had $. 5 so couldn't really afford a VIP trip, and she didn't even wince. Just grabbed my hand and took me to the room. And it was an experience. I don't think I've ever had anyone as aggressive, even had her tongue so far down my throat I think she could taste my lungs.

    I'm hoping this is just "he's a regular so I feel more comfortable with him", because I know she's not actually into me (I tried to convince her to do OTC and no dice), but it's odd how she went from 0 to 60 on it. My slight paranoia is that she is not a US citizen so she's looking for a way to stay in (Not a Cuban, just not a US citizen).

    Any red flags I should look out for? Or just enjoy the ride?

  8. #18109

    Hybrid first post

    Quote Originally Posted by Hybrid7223  [View Original Post]
    Over 18 trips mostly to BT's, (SC twice) in 2024, I've averaged $262 for full service + BJ, both almost exclusively covered, excluding tips, paying a max of $300 and a minimum of $200. My median is $250. And the
    mode is $300. This is all day shift.

    The max I've had requested was $500 once, $400 is a more common opener. I haven't been to the clubs in years so this was some either. So this was good info, as I don't want to contribute to inflation when I do go back. Thanks




    All of that, as learned from here, is negotiated at the table, with pay at the end terms. I've never been outright refused on price, but I've agreed to as much as $50 more on counter offers. I have been refused once for pay at the end, I politely declined. I also tip pretty generously if all goes well. It might be worth noting I'm rather vanilla, not asking for anything special, and I make every effort to treat the performers with courtesy and respect. I very much appreciate their efforts.

    Sorry if I've contributed too much to inflation. Still trying to improve my negotiation skills. I'd prefer to get my mode down to $250, which I think is a reasonable amount for BT's day shift, and $150-200 for SC.

    Also, as this is my first post. Thanks to all the posters here. I've learned a great deal from you all, and it's helping me navigate some complicated times.
    Good information as I have not been to the clubs in years and don't want to contribute to the inflation.

  9. #18108

    Amber, Brookklyn, Coco.

    Does anyone have exp with these girls? Amber, Brooklyn and Coco? They are mostly at FC LS and sometimes at BTs.

    Do they rip off or are they worth it? FS BBBJ or CBJ? TIA.

  10. #18107

    Chanel?

    Quote Originally Posted by JulesJordan  [View Original Post]
    Attached are labeled pictures of some H8 dancers that I enjoyed sampling over the years. All sessions included DFK, BBBJ, FIV, and CFS for 150 ish. Unfortunately, I lost interest and stopped visiting H8 last year. During the last few months, I've enjoyed day shift stops at BT's, Landing Strip, and Subi's Place.
    Nice collection, Jules.

    Is that Chanel that used to be at Subi's pre-covid? I'd like to find her again sometime if anyone knows her whereabouts.

  11. #18106
    Quote Originally Posted by DuckDuckInFin  [View Original Post]
    Opted for a change from my usual so I decided to stop in at BT's last night.

    Seemed a lot busier than previous times I've been there, especially prior to 10 pm. About 22-ish dancers around 9 PM. Good mix of ethnicities (as well as the Cuban inquisition) out of which True and Jessie caught my eye.

    True is an ultimate spinner imo, and I had an excellent session with her. She's sweet and not very talkative but impressed me in the back and that's what matters, right?

    Jessie is a short slim brunette with a southern accent who just moved to Michigan (her words). She is very attractive, but in the 5-ish minutes that she sat and talked she was pretty aggressive in the booth to go back and get dances. Almost an excessive amount of touching and crotch-grabbing without even being offered a drink. I'm sure you've all come across that type and I don't know about others, but it was kind of off-putting for me. But I'm not sure if that was just because she was new to the business, needed to make money fast, or a quantity-over-quality type, so I'm willing to give it another shot.

    Does anyone have experience with Jessie?
    I had interest but she asked me to buy her a $150 drink and welp, not doing that.

  12. #18105
    Quote Originally Posted by JulesJordan  [View Original Post]
    Attached are labeled pictures of some H8 dancers that I enjoyed sampling over the years. All sessions included DFK, BBBJ, FIV, and CFS for 150 ish. Unfortunately, I lost interest and stopped visiting H8 last year. During the last few months, I've enjoyed day shift stops at BT's, Landing Strip, and Subi's Place.
    Eva used to be one of my favorites at H8 N. I haven't seen her in over 3 years, but I don't live in SE Michigan and I'm an infrequent visitor to H8 N. Someone told me that Eva may have passed away. Does anyone have information to confirm or refute that "rumor?

  13. #18104

    BT's 9/29 night shift

    Opted for a change from my usual so I decided to stop in at BT's last night.

    Seemed a lot busier than previous times I've been there, especially prior to 10 pm. About 22-ish dancers around 9 PM. Good mix of ethnicities (as well as the Cuban inquisition) out of which True and Jessie caught my eye.

    True is an ultimate spinner imo, and I had an excellent session with her. She's sweet and not very talkative but impressed me in the back and that's what matters, right?

    Jessie is a short slim brunette with a southern accent who just moved to Michigan (her words). She is very attractive, but in the 5-ish minutes that she sat and talked she was pretty aggressive in the booth to go back and get dances. Almost an excessive amount of touching and crotch-grabbing without even being offered a drink. I'm sure you've all come across that type and I don't know about others, but it was kind of off-putting for me. But I'm not sure if that was just because she was new to the business, needed to make money fast, or a quantity-over-quality type, so I'm willing to give it another shot.

    Does anyone have experience with Jessie?

  14. #18103

    BT's Day Shift Stop

    About sixteen dancers there. Overall, a so-so looking lineup. Alana, Angelina, and Demonic provided good sessions before. I took Peaches to the VIP today. She is mid-20's, white, tiny body, dyed blonde hair, and has a few tats. Her head game was mediocre, although the main event was inspired / good. My preference is an all-around solid performer, so I likely wouldn't repeat with Peaches. Details resemble my previous reports.

  15. #18102

    Days Gone by at H8 North

    Attached are labeled pictures of some H8 dancers that I enjoyed sampling over the years. All sessions included DFK, BBBJ, FIV, and CFS for 150 ish. Unfortunately, I lost interest and stopped visiting H8 last year. During the last few months, I've enjoyed day shift stops at BT's, Landing Strip, and Subi's Place.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Arabella at H8N Night Shift 2022.jpg‎   Ava at H8N Night Shift 2017.jpg‎   Barbie at H8N Night Shift 2019.jpg‎   Chanel at H8N Day Shift 2019.jpg‎   Eva at H8N Day Shift 2017.jpg‎  

    Hazel at H8N Night Shift 2023.jpg‎   India at H8N Night Shift 2017.jpg‎   Isabella at H8N Night Shift 2022.jpg‎   Journey at H8N Day Shift 2018.jpg‎   Olivia at H8N Day Shift 2018.jpg‎  


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