Escort Reports

[Quantum89]

I was a regular of Crystal's when she ghosted me. Zhanna has ghosted me a couple times but made up for it. Once is excusable. After that, it's habit because they truly don't give a fuck because they have plenty of business. They never have a legitimate excuse. Fell asleep or phone died. If they had to fight for every visit, they would never ghost someone sitting in the fucking parking lot. I treat these girls right. Bring them snacks once I know what they like.

JR.

Yeah more than once you got to cut them loose. Was just stating those as the ones I have seen as a regular myself and not had it happen.

[JRSmith274]

Honestly the new law will probably hurt them the most. More people will be looking for ways to verify before going to see them which will drive them to the various Forums. I think before driving them out of business for a ghosting it would need to be a trend though cause shit does happen. Albeit it would be nice if they would just state that to you. Also, YMMV is definitely a real thing. I have seen Short Crystal a bunch of times now. Her, Zhanna, K. A and Lady G are the only ones who have never ghosted once I arrived. I also know once you become a reg of theirs they will ghost someone new for you because they know it's a more sure thing. That was stated to me once by one.

Just my 2 cents though.

I was a regular of Crystal's when she ghosted me. Zhanna has ghosted me a couple times but made up for it. Once is excusable. After that, it's habit because they truly don't give a fuck because they have plenty of business. They never have a legitimate excuse. Fell asleep or phone died. If they had to fight for every visit, they would never ghost someone sitting in the fucking parking lot. I treat these girls right. Bring them snacks once I know what they like.

JR.

[Quantum89]

How does that happen? I've posted about the following providers ghosting me in the parking lot more than once. All of them are clearly still in business. I don't know that the members of this forum even make a dent.

Gabby.

Nicole (the blonde).

Short Crystal.

Mya.

Savannah.

Additionally, Stella Piper stole from me, which is way worse than ghosting. She's also still posting.

How do we put her out of business?

JR.

Honestly the new law will probably hurt them the most. More people will be looking for ways to verify before going to see them which will drive them to the various Forums. I think before driving them out of business for a ghosting it would need to be a trend though cause shit does happen. Albeit it would be nice if they would just state that to you. Also, YMMV is definitely a real thing. I have seen Short Crystal a bunch of times now. Her, Zhanna, K. A and Lady G are the only ones who have never ghosted once I arrived. I also know once you become a reg of theirs they will ghost someone new for you because they know it's a more sure thing. That was stated to me once by one.

Just my 2 cents though.

[MarkKern]

We have the ripoff report section here.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...Ripoff-Reports

As far as reviews on STG, I don't think that's available. You can, however, create a fake account, copy pictures and post about them robbing you. They probably have a way to report the post and get your account deleted, so you would have to keep creating new accounts with new email addresses, so that would be a PITA.

Great idea! But it does not work! Does nothing to deter the rip offs! Reason? Only a few mongers read the USASG! Even if you do and not follow every post carefully, you are likely to miss it! The providers will simply change their name and phone number and post a new ad! We have seen those in the past! The band of brothers can stick together and boycott a rogue provider but it won't stop the horny 98% mongers who don't really care as long as they get their piece of the action! Folks! We are dealing with the bottom of the barrel providers and I really don't think most of them care about reviews! I for one definitely avoid providers with a consistently bad review!

Mk.

[CoopDawg]

Is there no way to post reviews on STG? I think clients should be able to do that. Maybe the mod here can create a sub forum for thieves and ghosting, that way, it's easier for clients to simply visit that sub forum to see all the reports on providers who turned out to be crooks or flakes. Instead having to go back and search this forum. Just a thought.

We have the ripoff report section here.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...Ripoff-Reports

As far as reviews on STG, I don't think that's available. You can, however, create a fake account, copy pictures and post about them robbing you. They probably have a way to report the post and get your account deleted, so you would have to keep creating new accounts with new email addresses, so that would be a PITA.

[GMan7547]

After my last post, I noticed a thread down below that is entitled "Avoid". So, I'd start posting there any time you get robbed or ghosted. Getting robbed could also include getting suckered into payment ahead of time.

[GMan7547]

I think posting ads on STG with their pictures and a "THIEF" report would go a good ways towards hurting their wallet. Probably have to keep up with reposting it, but I think it would help.

As for ghosting, posting here and also telling them they are getting a bad reputation seems to help. Definitely only helps when the provider gives a crap about thier reputation.

Is there no way to post reviews on STG? I think clients should be able to do that. Maybe the mod here can create a sub forum for thieves and ghosting, that way, it's easier for clients to simply visit that sub forum to see all the reports on providers who turned out to be crooks or flakes. Instead having to go back and search this forum. Just a thought.

[MarkKern]

How does that happen? I've posted about the following providers ghosting me in the parking lot more than once. All of them are clearly still in business. I don't know that the members of this forum even make a dent.

Gabby.

Nicole (the blonde).

Short Crystal.

Mya.

Savannah.

Additionally, Stella Piper stole from me, which is way worse than ghosting. She's also still posting..

As a monger we all have been ghosted and lately it has become almost a norm! The scene is pretty dry and too many mongers means that the providers can pretty much do what they please! Which is crazy because it really should be the other way round! There's not a whole lot we can do when providers ghost other than giving them a bad review or taking an ad on STG! Most of the time that does not deter them! We just need to avoid the frequent ghosters and stick with our regular "trusted" providers!

Mk.

[CoopDawg]

How does that happen? I've posted about the following providers ghosting me in the parking lot more than once. All of them are clearly still in business. I don't know that the members of this forum even make a dent.

Gabby.

Nicole (the blonde).

Short Crystal.

Mya.

Savannah.

Additionally, Stella Piper stole from me, which is way worse than ghosting. She's also still posting.

How do we put her out of business?

JR.

I think posting ads on STG with their pictures and a "THIEF" report would go a good ways towards hurting their wallet. Probably have to keep up with reposting it, but I think it would help.

As for ghosting, posting here and also telling them they are getting a bad reputation seems to help. Definitely only helps when the provider gives a crap about thier reputation.

[JRSmith274]

Fellas we have to stop letting these ladies disrespect our time. This traveling either near or far just to be stood up is unacceptable. We're the ones with the capital and get treated like ish. We'll no more. I say if someone reports being stood up then the one who chose to play that game gets cut off. Cut off to the points their the ones making phone calls and begging to give services. It's amazing how the little head can take over and give these girls this type of control. But I'm saying this crap stops today!

How does that happen? I've posted about the following providers ghosting me in the parking lot more than once. All of them are clearly still in business. I don't know that the members of this forum even make a dent.

Gabby.

Nicole (the blonde).

Short Crystal.

Mya.

Savannah.

Additionally, Stella Piper stole from me, which is way worse than ghosting. She's also still posting.

How do we put her out of business?

JR.

[GMan7547]

Fellas we have to stop letting these ladies disrespect our time. This traveling either near or far just to be stood up is unacceptable. We're the ones with the capital and get treated like ish. We'll no more. I say if someone reports being stood up then the one who chose to play that game gets cut off. Cut off to the points their the ones making phone calls and begging to give services. It's amazing how the little head can take over and give these girls this type of control. But I'm saying this crap stops today!

You should read the Sex Workers reddit. You'll get a glimpse into how these girls really think of mongers. You'd probably never want to pay them another dime after that.

[GMan7547]

Granted everyone plays their own way but IMHO there's no reason to pay for more than a QV, even if there is 2 girls there. Every provider I have seen is lenient when it comes to time. Only one time did one try to set a timer and I just walked out. I have never heard "Times up" and been asked to leave. Am I just the luckiest monger out here? I doubt it. My budget precludes me paying more than 60 for a quickie and I get more action than I can handle. At least weekly and more often on pay weeks.

Yeah, that's why I posed the question, because I'm not really wanting to spend time chit chattin' and getting to know each other. Now, if there's time left afterwards, sure I don't mind, especially if there's time spent snuggling or something, but I guess it depends on what all you want to do during that time. Mutual showering and washing each other down prior and afterwards? OK, I'm definitely down for that! That's time well spent IMHO! Foreplay? Even then then, I'd bet all of that equates to 30 minutes, maybe 45 minutes if you take too long in the shower. I've never done a QV, so I'm assuming most who do that are usually looking for just a BJ. But it seems like more and more girls are shying away from the QV.

[Cr2986]

Fellas we have to stop letting these ladies disrespect our time. This traveling either near or far just to be stood up is unacceptable. We're the ones with the capital and get treated like ish. We'll no more. I say if someone reports being stood up then the one who chose to play that game gets cut off. Cut off to the points their the ones making phone calls and begging to give services. It's amazing how the little head can take over and give these girls this type of control. But I'm saying this crap stops today!

[MarkKern]

Granted everyone plays their own way but IMHO there's no reason to pay for more than a QV, even if there is 2 girls there. Every provider I have seen is lenient when it comes to time. Only one time did one try to set a timer and I just walked out. I have never heard "Times up" and been asked to leave. Am I just the luckiest monger out here? I doubt it. My budget precludes me paying more than 60 for a quickie and I get more action than I can handle. At least weekly and more often on pay weeks.

Absolutely agree! Majority of my visits are Qv and I have timed myself from foot in the door to foot in my car and it is usually 25 minutes! Any provider starting the clock when I enter the room will usually see my back before she timed me for 3 seconds! Never felt rushed with any provider as 20 to 25 minutes is all I need! Have I stayed longer? Yes! With my "connected" providers I have stayed for more than an hour but its mostly talking, eating or bs ing (if that's the right word) and never regretted that as it was just as much fun without paying! Call it a mutual benefit!

I am definitely with you on this one TransAm!

Mk.

[Trans Am Guy]

MK, you're a walking s*x encyclopedia. Thanks for the info. Although, there seem to be a lot of guys on here who claim to use 40-eleven-dozen positions in one setting, which should take a LOT longer than 5. 4 minutes. They are either 2 percenters, bloviators, or in a fantasy world. Whatever works, LOL. I personally have stayed away from FS for reasons of my own. Otherwise, like Bronco, I'm an older guy. I have a few years on him, so that makes me three days older than dirt, so I would probably tucker out before the 5. 4 minutes arrived unless I took a rest after about 2. LOL. I've always liked an hour if I find a good provider who really knows how to give a semi-professional massage along with a satisfactory send-off. After all of the informative info on the subject, I may consider cutting back to 30 or 45 minutes to see how it works, other than with my favorite place that Bronco mentioned. Thanks, MK and Bronco for the insight!

Granted everyone plays their own way but IMHO there's no reason to pay for more than a QV, even if there is 2 girls there. Every provider I have seen is lenient when it comes to time. Only one time did one try to set a timer and I just walked out. I have never heard "Times up" and been asked to leave. Am I just the luckiest monger out here? I doubt it. My budget precludes me paying more than 60 for a quickie and I get more action than I can handle. At least weekly and more often on pay weeks.