Massage with HE

[Bigboto]

I went to see my favorite Mona for my monthly deep tissue Thai massage with stretching. As usual she did an excellent massage providing me much needed relief. Before the flip while she massaged my inner thighs and okole, I asked her to reach under me to massage the boys and boto. (This was a technique that this lady from the mainland perfected. It was many years ago, I forgot her name but she usually worked out of the Ilikai Marina.) During her sensual work, I instructed Mona to stop a few times as I was nearing release keeping me on the edge. This was something new to her but she complied bringing me to a long deep release. I wanted to keep it going as she was really driving me nuts but she finished me off. She is very cooperative and open to new ideas. I would like to try other things with her. In all the times she worked on me, out of respect, I never tried to touch her body. Lucky I went to see her as I found out she will be on vacation the whole month of October returning mid November. I hope to see her again before she leaves.

[Member #7259]

Anyone have any more information on this Helen? I'm curious what other's experiences with her have been and where she worked before this. PM box is open.

Was there a while back and had her. Massage was just a lot of rubbing real fast and not very good. On the flip asked if I wanted her to massage down there and I said yes and it was just jack hammer mode. Have not been back. She looked good so was hoping it would be better but it wasn't.

Freak Out.

[Wasabiii]

Agree with all the recent comments about saying "no" to all the up-selling in the Thai Shops. I had a recent experience and really just wanted a good massage, which is usually a part of the experience at the Thai Places. Had and older provider, thin body, yet not attractive to me. The massage was great and when the flip or HE was a decision, she proceeded without ask or any negotiations. As the process started, some grabbing occurred and she stopped and asked for $$, which was declined, then asked for $. 7, which was also declined.

Upon leaving left $, . 7 for massage and. 3 for tip. This in my estimation was a fair tip for aborting something that was started and I ended up finishing after the massage was stated to be over. The provider did watch and provided a towel for clean up. When leaving, the provider told me not to come back and wanted my name. I told her, yet she forgot. Unacceptable behavior. No means not for us as well, wish she would have asked first, I would have said no. Since she started, then abandoned me, I figured finishing and providing a tip based on the massage and not the extras seemed more than fair. Seems like a boycott on any new Thai Providers needs to be implemented on my part.

Disappointing experience to say the least. At least a point was made on the unacceptable up-selling.



Aloha,

CS.

I would have done the same. Where was this at?

[DeeJohn808]

Anyone have any more information on this Helen? I'm curious what other's experiences with her have been and where she worked before this. PM box is open.

Swung by CC #203, it's now called Ke Ia Lani Spa. Manager is Helen so probably just a name change rather than change in ownership.

Had a youngish MT with a pretty nice face and good body. Massage was pretty good with lots of attention to the butt. OTC touching was allowed.

On the flip, she offered HE with a light touch and an "ok?" After replying "ok," she got straight to work. No discussion of price, big fan! Finish was nice with lots of varied strokes.

Tipped standard amount for the service which she seemed happy with. Recommend this one.

[Cloe Stone]

If you want to get lower prices, the one word that will work is "NO". Most of the girls will quote you 200 or 300 for FS or whatever. If you simply say "No" to their initial offer, then the girl will usually drop her price to what you are willing to pay. Business is very, very slow right now so the girls are willing to drop their prices to at least make some money. If you are willing to accept their first offer, then you are the loser. Recently, I have girls calling me to come down because they have no customers. That shows you they are suffering right now and willing to negotiate. Just my opinion.

Agree with all the recent comments about saying "no" to all the up-selling in the Thai Shops. I had a recent experience and really just wanted a good massage, which is usually a part of the experience at the Thai Places. Had and older provider, thin body, yet not attractive to me. The massage was great and when the flip or HE was a decision, she proceeded without ask or any negotiations. As the process started, some grabbing occurred and she stopped and asked for $$, which was declined, then asked for $. 7, which was also declined.

Upon leaving left $, . 7 for massage and. 3 for tip. This in my estimation was a fair tip for aborting something that was started and I ended up finishing after the massage was stated to be over. The provider did watch and provided a towel for clean up. When leaving, the provider told me not to come back and wanted my name. I told her, yet she forgot. Unacceptable behavior. No means not for us as well, wish she would have asked first, I would have said no. Since she started, then abandoned me, I figured finishing and providing a tip based on the massage and not the extras seemed more than fair. Seems like a boycott on any new Thai Providers needs to be implemented on my part.

Disappointing experience to say the least. At least a point was made on the unacceptable up-selling.

Aloha,

CS.

[Ck813]

AMPs $200 total for 30 minutes, $220 total for 45 minute and $300 tot for full hour.

I suspect you meant differently than the numbers posted, right? AMPs are more like 60 to the house and 140 ish to the provider for one hour (which usually gets shorted 10 to 15 minutes.

[Wasabiii]

If you want to get lower prices, the one word that will work is "NO". Most of the girls will quote you 200 or 300 for FS or whatever. If you simply say "No" to their initial offer, then the girl will usually drop her price to what you are willing to pay. Business is very, very slow right now so the girls are willing to drop their prices to at least make some money. If you are willing to accept their first offer, then you are the loser. Recently, I have girls calling me to come down because they have no customers. That shows you they are suffering right now and willing to negotiate. Just my opinion.

Your opinion is spot on. We have the money.

[Guapo Marx]

If you want to get lower prices, the one word that will work is "NO". Most of the girls will quote you 200 or 300 for FS or whatever. If you simply say "No" to their initial offer, then the girl will usually drop her price to what you are willing to pay. Business is very, very slow right now so the girls are willing to drop their prices to at least make some money. If you are willing to accept their first offer, then you are the loser. Recently, I have girls calling me to come down because they have no customers. That shows you they are suffering right now and willing to negotiate. Just my opinion.

I've had $100 trouble women meet some rich guys and get $300 until they don't. Then come crawling back. Usually stort lived. Probably in more trouble than before. Still some awkward feeling with her going back to beginner pricing.

[MushiBoy]

Capitalism at its finest! As Red mentioned as long as we are willing to pay the higher prices the prices will remain high, or go even higher. Once we stop, the prices will eventually come down. In other words, once we start thinking with our big head instead of our little head and stop, or at least cut back, on our patronage the prices will come down. You'll know because we will see less girls and trannys coming into town. Evidence of this is what happened with young FS providers, since "we" don't want to pay higher prices, they don't want to come. Once we shift back to full service providers and back off the Thai massage establishments we should see a change, or, it won't really matter what they charge because we changed preference.

If you want to get lower prices, the one word that will work is "NO". Most of the girls will quote you 200 or 300 for FS or whatever. If you simply say "No" to their initial offer, then the girl will usually drop her price to what you are willing to pay. Business is very, very slow right now so the girls are willing to drop their prices to at least make some money. If you are willing to accept their first offer, then you are the loser. Recently, I have girls calling me to come down because they have no customers. That shows you they are suffering right now and willing to negotiate. Just my opinion.

[Shipshape]

My experience tells me only AMPs are keeping their prices down. AMPs are 60 plus 200 Half hour, 60 plus 160 45 minutes and 60 plus 240 one hour

I suspect you meant differently than the numbers posted, right? AMPs are more like 60 to the house and 140 ish to the provider for one hour (which usually gets shorted 10 to 15 minutes.

[Museki]

Exactly, it's based on free-enterprise economics. Many of us would probably behave in a similar manner if we were in a business where prices were completely unregulated and we had a golden opportunity to make more money.

If no mongers were willing to pay these high prices, then the prices would eventually decrease. Realistically, the problem is with mongers themselves, who enable these high prices by not sticking together and all following one unified course of action (it's like the classic example of trying to herd cats). Of course, to some mongers the prices may not seem too excessive because those mongers are more wealthy and / or go mongering less frequently.

Anyway, presidential candidate Kamala Harris has announced that she supports enacting a new "federal law against price gouging by food suppliers and grocery stores," so let's see if she's willing to extend that to sexual services providers! (LOL).

Capitalism at its finest! As Red mentioned as long as we are willing to pay the higher prices the prices will remain high, or go even higher. Once we stop, the prices will eventually come down. In other words, once we start thinking with our big head instead of our little head and stop, or at least cut back, on our patronage the prices will come down. You'll know because we will see less girls and trannys coming into town. Evidence of this is what happened with young FS providers, since "we" don't want to pay higher prices, they don't want to come. Once we shift back to full service providers and back off the Thai massage establishments we should see a change, or, it won't really matter what they charge because we changed preference.

[Ck813]

My experience tells me only AMPs are keeping their prices down. AMPs are 60 plus 200 Half hour, 60 plus 160 45 minutes and 60 plus 240 one hour.

Thai or massage can go 70 house and who the fuck knows. 70 plus 130 for topless HJ, 70 plus all Ala care as high as the sky will take you. I had one recently ask 70 house $300 BJ with condom. Take top off another 100 or something then FS came up another $200 more equaling $500. It's what a customer will pay. I refuse and negotiate $160 $140 total for HJ touch over the clothes. Or I just walk with no tip. Usually my little head wins and pay $140 for over the clothes grab ass and that is it.

Are you serious? Almost everyone will do. RTFF.

[OldMan5555]

Any Recommendations for providers that do BBBJTC?

Are you serious? Almost everyone will do. RTFF.

[HawaiiMonger]

Anybody have any luck at YaYa Spa at CC?

I have had fun with LuLu but was curious about the girl named Cindy.

[Visitor808]

Any Recommendations for providers that do BBBJTC?