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[Carlosa]

Sheriff's are elected just like any other politician. They need to get on TV like they are making a difference. 125 people got busted for prostitution in Tampa. It is just a political rally for the sheriff nothing more.

[Thunter]

My guess is that they will systematically go after the high volume businesses. We will be left with the smaller low volume locations with 1-2 employees.

I believe one of three things will happen. The shops will get their business records in order to comply with the law. They will ditch the brick and mortar massage locations in favor of hotels or private residences which has already happened in some parts of the country. They will move to another state with less restrictions.

My pool guy has had some very good relationships with mgr's and ladies at these places over the years. He says he sees no reasons they could not comply with the I'd requirements or recordkeeping. Most shops were either unaware of the law or thought it would not be enforced, now they know. These are not ladies illegally crossing the border, they live in the USA or have come in on Visa for a selected period. Many fly regularly and you can't fly without an I'd.

Seems this will sort out but may take a few months. I don't think the court system has much capacity or patience for "business records" violations. Arresting people for such things is a complete waste of resources. It seems there are way more pressing crimes happening every day that should be the focus. I think they should just make this all legal, regulate and tax it but FL has way too many bible thumpers so that's not likely.

[KW1234]

My guess is that they will systematically go after the high volume businesses. We will be left with the smaller low volume locations with 1-2 employees.

So a statement. This fall Florida will legalize recreational marijuana. Thus, making legal to be intoxicated from drinking and then bake yourself and get out on the road and kill someone. So, double the chance. While law enforcement goes after escorts and AMP's who do no harm to society in general. The "hobby" is beneficial in many ways health wise as it brings down stress, allows a connection even for a moment, exercise / activity to name a few.

The state should legalize this hobby, collect tax, have a health plan / screening for the girls that participate. No one ever died from having sex and driving. (well at the same time).

[Skidmark5]

Several AMPs were taken down last week in Collier County.

They took them down on records violations. Law enforcement was working hand in glove with the DOH.

https://winknews.com/2024/08/01/excl...-get-arrested/

My guess is that they will systematically go after the high volume businesses. We will be left with the smaller low volume locations with 1-2 employees.

[MarkGew]

Several AMPs were taken down last week in Collier County.

They took them down on records violations. Law enforcement was working hand in glove with the DOH.

https://winknews.com/2024/08/01/excl...-get-arrested/

11 arrest, all spa workers from 10 different spas.

All in their late 40's or 50's.

Guess Naples truly is a retirement city.

I believe that's where the ***** that introduced the bill HB 197 got elected from.

[RowdyReptile]

Several AMPs were taken down last week in Collier County.

They took them down on records violations. Law enforcement was working hand in glove with the DOH.

https://winknews.com/2024/08/01/excl...-get-arrested/

I'm surprised its legal for them to arrest the workers for their violations. They didn't catch them in act of prostitution, just violated the new law. It seems like per the law, they have the right to issue a violation and close down, but not arrest. Do 't they also have right to conform in X amount of days before lose license, or is law 1 and done.

Would they have arrested next door lady at salon if she didn't have a license, and site her and close shop. What's the difference? Was there anyone with the health dept, whose jurisdiction it it to review and not police. Yes, I know its election year primary this month, and final in November.

Any monger lawyers out there to chirp in.

[FloridaGringo]

Several AMPs were taken down last week in Collier County.

They took them down on records violations. Law enforcement was working hand in glove with the DOH.

https://winknews.com/2024/08/01/excl...-get-arrested/

So if you look at this link it shows what they were arrested for. All ID violations. First offense is second degree misdemeanor. Says zero about record keeping charges.

https://winknews.com/2024/07/31/11-a...e-parlor-bust/

The bill states all employees on site must have and be able to present 1 of 6 forms of acceptable I'd. Alien Registration Receipt (Green Card), Employment Authorization Card, US State Driver License, US State ID, United States Passport, Naturalization Certificate from DOH. No doubt they were all unable to comply.

Now with respect to what LEO is saying about the records not being verified with ID's, it's probably a scare tactic but is in no way relevant to what they were arrested for based on the charges.

The bill clearly defines "The establishment must CONFIRM the identification of the client or patient before any service or treatment is provided to the client or patient. " Words matter in law and the definitional of CONFIRM is "establish the truth or correctness of something previously believed, suspected or to be the case". Had they used the word "VERIFY" different story. Furthermore, It does not say by what means they MUST go about confirming. The bill makes 2 suggestions of acceptable practices for confirming. Again, words matter in the law. The word "MAY" implies a request or suggestion. Had they used the word "MUST", different story.

1. Medical records MAY satisfy this requirement if the records include the specified information.

2. A copy of the client's or patient's photo identification MAY be used.

Anything regarding session logs with client information could be successfully litigated in court as the language in the bill form CONFIRMING is ambiguous and subjective so I seriously doubt the DOH will make that their primary focus when the low hanging fruit is I'd compliance.

I realize none of this shit matters when they barge in at 8:30 am when mongers are trying to be first client of the morning but that's my 2 cents.

Drive by scan the parking lot and be safe.

[MarkGew]

Several AMPs were taken down last week in Collier County.

They took them down on records violations. Law enforcement was working hand in glove with the DOH.

https://winknews.com/2024/08/01/excl...-get-arrested/

Spring closed and now this!

I'm going to get my fill before this spreads.

[ThomasBandy23]

Several AMPs were taken down last week in Collier County.

They took them down on records violations. Law enforcement was working hand in glove with the DOH.

https://winknews.com/2024/08/01/excl...-get-arrested/

[Ludwig Van]

I think you all talked about this before but I just saw this article so wanted to share. They're stating this guy killed 2 SW's that he picked up from 7-11 on Econ Trail, doesn't state the cross street. I'll post the link and in case that doesn't work I'll copy and paste the article below too.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2024...orange-county/

A 'potential serial killer' arrested for strangling two women to death in Orange County was indicted for murder Wednesday, according to a press release from State Attorney Andrew Bain's office.

Carlos Baez Nieves, 25, was indicted by a grand jury on two counts of first-degree murder in the killings of Fatia Flowers, 44, in March and Nichole Daniels, 41, in April.

He also was charged with two counts of tampering with physical evidence in a capital proceeding and driving with a suspended license. His arraignment is scheduled for Tuesday and his trial is set to start in September.

In a press conference after Baez Nieves' April arrest, Orange County Sheriff John Mina said he had the makings of a "potential serial killer. " The FBI considers serial murder "the unlawful killing of two or more victims by the same offender (s), in separate events. ".

Police say Baez Nieves, on separate occasions, paid each woman for sex before strangling them and dumping their naked bodies on the side of the road near the intersection of Trevarton and Harrell roads in east Orlando.

He picked up both women from a 7-Eleven on Econlockhatchee Trail. Through witnesses, surveillance video and license plate readers, police were able to track him down. He was ultimately arrested April 26 while driving with a suspended license.

Orange County deputies questioned Baez Nieves about Daniels' death after his arrest. He initially said he dropped her off alive at another location, but after police confronted him with evidence he eventually said he accidentally strangled her in an argument because he believed she'd stolen money from his wallet.

When asked about Flowers' killing in March, he told police he accidentally strangled her while choking her during sex.

[DayCruiser]

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/ha...citation-sting

Looks like maybe trying to bust the polesmokers that frolic in the county parks more than your average johns.

[GregIsLong]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-p...220157507.html

Okay, so you got to show proof of age by giving out your I'd to a shady site and the states board of Ed is backed by this law?

Will the schools at least sit down with the kids and talk to them about sex? I'm sure this red swing state, that is not likely, especially with the "Do not say gay" law.

[SMF1234]

Be advised that Seminole County arrested 7 mongers last night. All first timers. Be safe Brothers. Cheers! SMF1234.

[Aeroxly]

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/ha...citation-sting

Yeah, Seminole SO seems to be trying to keep up with Polk these days. Reading the court cases, they're doing stings in the Altamonte area almost weekly, so that's on my no-fly zone for a while. It sucks since they could be using those resources for the real crimes that are happening, but apparently the SCSO is taking a bust-everyone-and-let-the-courts-sort-it-out-later approach right now.

[NbaYoungBoy]

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/ha...citation-sting