"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[JimStokes]

Wanted to get expert opinion on overnight rates with SBs. I am just over 62 and in good shape for the age and average looking. I have been in the game for more than 5 years, only one time I did overnight with a girl (I still see her). In her case, I give her 400 for the night. My typical ppm rate is 300-400 for few hours (typically 2 pops). The max I have given is 500 ppm (for a super cute Latina). I am talking to this 22 year old College senior. White girl, slim, no tattoos, face I would give 9 and body 8. I had phone calls and video calls with her and confirmed she is real and photos are of her. She literally gave me all information about her, I know her real name, and all background checks come clear and what she says in her profile is 100% true. She told me that she had one arrangement before and he gave her 600 ppm. When I asked about how much time we can spend, she gave me two options, either meet in the afternoon and spend few hours or meet after 7 pm and spend the night. She didn't give different rates for these options. For few hours, I would have definitely given her 400. I am wondering rather than negotiating the ppm just go for 600 for overnight. Based on the conversation so far, everything is super smooth and she seems to be a very nice girl. Just wanted put this scenario to you guys and get the feedback if I could have done something differently. I am tempted to go for 600 overnight (and I can afford it based on my budget if I limit to 4 meet ups per month).

Play safe.

Dr. S.

So if you compare this overnight rate for some escorts, it's a steal.

Personally, I found most SB are new to negotiations and either inflate a prior rate or quote something they read on social media where SB's post. I also have found some dudes simply overpay and skew the market.

If the afternoon works, using 4 hours, its 150 an hour. Overnight her hourly rate takes a nose dive but you will likely incur dinner / drinks that you don't pay in the afternoon.

If she is at 600 and you are at 400 the meet point is 500. If she is as hot as you say, and based on your prior experience, the delta in dollars is not really material.

I do suggest that SB's working PPM generally show signs of being more "experienced" or have a leaning to being pro.

But to answer your question, 400 for a few hours is on the higher side from my experience but I tend to select over 30 versus under 30. If they aren't a pro or pro yet, the clock should not be a factor.

Rather, it just what you pay for the meet and it rolls organically. It seems she trends toward this with her offer. The only risk in pushing her to 4 is she gets pissed off or she cuts the time down. I'd wager she'll take 5. But I'd view the PPM as someone who knows this game.

[Bobby6758]

Wanted to get expert opinion on overnight rates with SBs. I am just over 62 and in good shape for the age and average looking. I have been in the game for more than 5 years, only one time I did overnight with a girl (I still see her). In her case, I give her 400 for the night. My typical ppm rate is 300-400 for few hours (typically 2 pops). The max I have given is 500 ppm (for a super cute Latina). I am talking to this 22 year old College senior. White girl, slim, no tattoos, face I would give 9 and body 8. I had phone calls and video calls with her and confirmed she is real and photos are of her. She literally gave me all information about her, I know her real name, and all background checks come clear and what she says in her profile is 100% true. She told me that she had one arrangement before and he gave her 600 ppm. When I asked about how much time we can spend, she gave me two options, either meet in the afternoon and spend few hours or meet after 7 pm and spend the night. She didn't give different rates for these options. For few hours, I would have definitely given her 400. I am wondering rather than negotiating the ppm just go for 600 for overnight. Based on the conversation so far, everything is super smooth and she seems to be a very nice girl. Just wanted put this scenario to you guys and get the feedback if I could have done something differently. I am tempted to go for 600 overnight (and I can afford it based on my budget if I limit to 4 meet ups per month).

Play safe.


Dr. S.

Well bro if she's a 9 with a 8 body and seems legit might as well respect her rate atleast once. She might be worth it especially if she looks good. To me that's a great deal 600 over night. I Know girls who charge 400-1000 for FS for an hour. So 600 for over night is actually a good rate especially if she looks better than most providers. I'd say go for it once. If it's worth then her price is fair if not either talk her down next time, or find someone who does 400 ppm. Super pretty girls won't budge. I've had excellent service with a 9/10 chick it cost me a lot 800 $ but man she was worth it. So it's up to you. But if she looks how you said then go for it once atleast.

[DrSummer]

Wanted to get expert opinion on overnight rates with SBs. I am just over 62 and in good shape for the age and average looking. I have been in the game for more than 5 years, only one time I did overnight with a girl (I still see her). In her case, I give her 400 for the night. My typical ppm rate is 300-400 for few hours (typically 2 pops). The max I have given is 500 ppm (for a super cute Latina). I am talking to this 22 year old College senior. White girl, slim, no tattoos, face I would give 9 and body 8. I had phone calls and video calls with her and confirmed she is real and photos are of her. She literally gave me all information about her, I know her real name, and all background checks come clear and what she says in her profile is 100% true. She told me that she had one arrangement before and he gave her 600 ppm. When I asked about how much time we can spend, she gave me two options, either meet in the afternoon and spend few hours or meet after 7 pm and spend the night. She didn't give different rates for these options. For few hours, I would have definitely given her 400. I am wondering rather than negotiating the ppm just go for 600 for overnight. Based on the conversation so far, everything is super smooth and she seems to be a very nice girl. Just wanted put this scenario to you guys and get the feedback if I could have done something differently. I am tempted to go for 600 overnight (and I can afford it based on my budget if I limit to 4 meet ups per month).

Play safe.

Dr. S.

[LoriTruck]

Some I've had a conversation with and have dates planned with several of them if anyone has any info.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...serId=71790408

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...serId=71939856

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...serId=72878246

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...d-f1fdd913e30a

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...9-ff8143808f1b

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...b-7f365653d51a

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...c-66413aa3adf9

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...9-fb41188e0f1a

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...c-e48a0778a67f

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...6-cc5a57bbc399

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...6-f48a162fa10d

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...6-42372a85a291

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...3-87062283bbac

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...3-b204b9dfdccd

[LoriTruck]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...6-37ef47112004

Has a wife and in my opinion, the wife looks better. They can come as a pair but they don't kiss each other or any of what you think comes natural as a couple without an upcharge. BBBJ is on the menu followed by cfs. The back door is open only if they are drunk. 250 each. I won't repeat with the pair.

[Turtman]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...6-624388514953

- This one seems to be a scammer but wanted to confirm if any one had luck.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...7-669f41e4f3ff

- Out of Atlanta but seems to be real, any one experienced DM welcome.

[Doctor Sugar]

Another pic or video seller.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...2-dffb3efebf90

I had the same scam request outcome from messaging her. She wants online to start.

[South215]

Any info on this one?

I talked to her a few times about a year ago when she was in Charleston. Never could get her to agree to meet, she always had an excuse usually no child care.

[TooHotForYou]

That chick is insane. Please stay away.

I know she may have had her problems. Just wondering where she's been. I suspect her habits might've got out of hand.

[TheAnswer4]

Anybody know if this one still around? Haven't seen her on seeking.

That chick is insane. Please stay away.

[TooHotForYou]

Gives off a very pro vibe. Says she had different accounts in the past. From what Ive seen she has had a few accounts already.

Anybody know if this one still around? Haven't seen her on seeking.

[Tribeca67]

Any info on this one?

[SalvatoreIttup]

Did she ever let you CIM? She was always real picky with me when it came to BJs, but she rode like a champ and loved when you finished inside her. I wonder if the coke made her more open minded LOL.

Yeah, but we had a pretty good rapport, and whenever she gets in her zone through all her substances, she doesn't really say "No" to anything, and will even take less $ without much push back because she thoroughly enjoys herself. That's the key with a lot of them.

[BrownSugaTwo]

Did she ever let you CIM? She was always real picky with me when it came to BJs, but she rode like a champ and loved when you finished inside her. I wonder if the coke made her more open minded LOL.

My boy missed out; she made him cover up: no cream pies for him, LOL. He's not white, so maybe that had something to do with it. Given that she is / was high volume, I suppose it's for the best. Not that I'm judging, I'm currently sort of in love with an SB that has a history of gangbangs. And likely has a boyfriend. It was all bare from day one (she just slid it in there), and I'm so intoxicated by her that I just can't stop. She's thick as hell and a doll. I'm sure she's crazy outside of an SB relationship, but I just can't help but fall under her spell. Sometimes, I really hate how vulnerable I am to that slit between these girls' legs, but it is what it is.

[2me4Looking2]

Just wanted to see what has been successful for most of you when you have created a new account. Have you used a VPN or does SA even care if you do it from the same IP address? I just don't want to create a new account and then immediately get flagged and be out the money.

Thanks.

I created a new account without VPN or trying to change my IP address. I did use a different browser (Firefox) and I did it in private mode. They seem to have gotten a lot stricter with photos and I think that may actually have been what got me on my last profile because all of my photos were of other people with blurry faces. This time I found a middle aged guy with somewhat similar body characteristics and uploaded 4 of his pics. I created the account on Saturday, paid for it on Monday with a prepaid card from giftcards.com and so far no issues. I will say that this time I left my profile as searchable and I'm surprised at just how many women message me. I've always left it on hidden and I've been the one doing the messaging. This is kind of a nice change, although I really wish they had a way to block people that aren't in a set location or at least not in the same country. Just wanted to report what worked for me so far.