Rants and Stupid shit in Orange County

[DolfString111]

How do you guys enjoy doing that for these girls who are getting pumped unprotected in both holes daily?

Not even talking about the risks of std or sti. But the actual act you're kissing other dudes no matter how well you think they clean.

Yep early nuff sed.

[Sticker]

How do you guys enjoy doing that for these girls who are getting pumped unprotected in both holes daily? Not even talking about the risks of std or sti. But the actual act you're kissing other dudes no matter how well you think they clean.

Try your best not to put forth your Victorian constraints here. Just chill and don't proselytize. Let mongers be mongers, and if you, personally, don't wish to enjoy the spectrum of enjoyment at AMPs like Right, Nature and other similar establishments, go elsewhere. You may save a few buckos in the process.

Hygiene varies, but in my three decades of mongering experiences, most AMP girls like to keep themselves clean between play sessions. They gargle, shower, rinse, wipe and use those little squeeze douche devices. But what the heck, even if one or more of them don't have perfect clean-up skills, consider your own daily activities out and about. Whether it's a high-end Laguna oceanfront eatery, or a Mickey D's drive through in GG, do you really think the minimum wagers practice perfect hygiene while dishing you up? And do you wipe down every doorknob you touch in any establishment beforehand? Or any other public venue, from a gym, a park a grocery store, etc. ?

I totally get that some guys get anxious / worried about what bacteria may be lingering on these accommodating AMP lovelies, but please let each monger decide for him (or her) self. No need to raise those questions publicly, In-My-Less-Than-Humble-Opinion. If you are truly worried, as opposed to just being a holier-than-thou monger-basher, just DM the monger directly. Even me. If I know you're legitimately confused and a mongering neophyte (as opposed to a troll or shill), I will respond to you and help guide you along the evil pathways 😊.

[Sticker]

How do you guys enjoy doing that for these girls who are getting pumped unprotected in both holes daily?

Not even talking about the risks of std or sti. But the actual act you're kissing other dudes no matter how well you think they clean.

I'm responding to you on the Rants thread in order to appease the listmasters.

[BSouthgate]

How do you guys enjoy doing that for these girls who are getting pumped unprotected in both holes daily?

Not even talking about the risks of std or sti. But the actual act you're kissing other dudes no matter how well you think they clean.

Today, I ate lunch in a restaurant using a fork that has been used one thousand times in the past month.

[Caribe]

How do you guys enjoy doing that for these girls who are getting pumped unprotected in both holes daily?

Not even talking about the risks of std or sti. But the actual act you're kissing other dudes no matter how well you think they clean.

Hit 'them up early! Some of my regulars will come in and let me in early. I'll contact them the night before. They'll know to rooter out that snatch and rush and floss got some DFK an 69. I'll also be freshly showered They'll require the same from me, inspecting the balls, shaft and under the head for lint or smegma.

[Big Zhang Mang]

How do you guys enjoy doing that for these girls who are getting pumped unprotected in both holes daily?

Not even talking about the risks of std or sti. But the actual act you're kissing other dudes no matter how well you think they clean.

I frequent a handful of AMP providers. Wherever they get rotated to, I'll go there if it ain't too far. I have them shower and brush their teeth beforehand.

[RubMePls]

How do you guys enjoy doing that for these girls who are getting pumped unprotected in both holes daily?

Not even talking about the risks of std or sti. But the actual act you're kissing other dudes no matter how well you think they clean.

[BSouthgate]

Up to about 45 years of age, I preferred younger beautiful women to older women who had lost their sparkle. Thia pertained to pros and what I think you call civvies (non pros). I married my first wife when I was in my twenties. She was knockout beautiful. She had the body of a model and the innocent cute face of an actress.

Then as age progressed, I started preferring older more mature women for sex but still liked girlfriends and wives to be at least ten years younger than myself. When I mongered in Gardena and Inglewood in my 60's, I had both young and old masseuses. Gradually, I learned to like the older girls (at least 40) more as lovers. They knew more and were less inhibited.

Now I am ancient. I am near life's end. I don't fight with my pot belly anymore because I know it is useless to fight. I have an ugly pacemaker box sticking through the skin of my chest. My hair is grey and it is no longer easy to get it up. I had taken a vacation from mongering for about five years and only recently have returned to this great hobby. In the past few months, I have tried to young spinners at Right and the grannies in Westminster. I prefer the latter by far.

I would love to read others' views on this topic.

[BSouthgate]

I strongly believe that this is a subject that you can't paint with a wide brush. Girls get into prostitution for a wide variety of reasons. Some do it because they're young runaways and drug addicts and need a source of income. Some do it strictly to earn a buck. Some do it at least partially because they immensely enjoy sex, and even more so enjoy getting paid for it. I've seen escorts who claimed to not need the money. They had good jobs during the week but saw 3 or 4 clients on weekends because a) the extra cash was nice. Gave them a little extra discretionary spending money; and b) they enjoyed the sex. I've been with SWs who had unmistakable huge orgasms. You know the orgasms were real because there are just certain things that can't be faked. I've been with others who claimed to orgasm but I saw no discernable evidence of it during the session. I've had others who had "orgasms" that seemed very fake. You can usually pick out the over the top porn flick style moaning and tell that it's fake. Uncontrollable body spasms, sweating, and hip bucking accompanied by moaning and a gush of fluids probably isn't fake. So it very much runs the gamut between spreading their legs just for the money and doing it because they're incredibly horny and like getting laid as much as we do.

As for the high end Nevada brothels, I'm not an expert because I've never visited one, but the 70% figure is probably pretty close to spot on. Some of the girls may very well have high sex drive and cum multiple times a day with multiple clients..

Your review is right on the mark. My experiences have been similar to yours.

Chinese women in China and those who have recently immigrated are more sexually responsive and enjoy more.

The thing that I learned from this book was not that hookers often enjoy sex. Their enjoyment is repressed by cultural pressures not to enjoy. Very few if any of the Nevada brothel women were recent immigrants from Asia. Their groupthink was to mock and make fun of women who had the courage to admit frequent orgasms with their tricks. Imagine if, on this site, guys were afraid to admit that they enjoyed orgasms with their massage girls. That is the way it still is for many prostitutes.

Liberate.

[Grimmy23]

Thank you for referring this book, Brothel by Alexa Albert, to us.

Albert sees the Mustang Ranch women through the cultural lens that includes the strangeness of prostitutes enjoying sex with clients. Her cultural belief is that it is still novel for women to enjoy sex at all and certainly they cannot enjoy sex with so many guys with whom they have only a casual acquaintance. Despite this flaw in the author's psychology, she does admit that at least 70% of the Mustang hookers orgasm "sometimes" and one orgasms as many as 7 times a day with clients. She notes that the brothel girls do not want to admit sexual enjoyment with clients and mock women who do admit such enjoyment.

Before the 1960's and the American sexual revolution, women rarely admitted enjoying sex and men did not know what a clit was. It was not important for women to enjoy sex though it was clear to me as a child from the sounds emanating from my parents bedroom that Mama was having more fun than Papa. I lived through that era. I remember.

Actually, women can enjoy sex and orgasm much more frequently than men can. They can enjoy with more partners than we can enjoy with. Prostitutes are no different. In fact, they choose their career because their libido and frequency of enjoyment is on the high side.

Thanks again for referring this book. Please enjoy again this video showing hookers having fun.

https://pornzog.com/video/13191912/h...y-party-manny/

I strongly believe that this is a subject that you can't paint with a wide brush. Girls get into prostitution for a wide variety of reasons. Some do it because they're young runaways and drug addicts and need a source of income. Some do it strictly to earn a buck. Some do it at least partially because they immensely enjoy sex, and even more so enjoy getting paid for it. I've seen escorts who claimed to not need the money. They had good jobs during the week but saw 3 or 4 clients on weekends because a) the extra cash was nice. Gave them a little extra discretionary spending money; and b) they enjoyed the sex. I've been with SWs who had unmistakable huge orgasms. You know the orgasms were real because there are just certain things that can't be faked. I've been with others who claimed to orgasm but I saw no discernable evidence of it during the session. I've had others who had "orgasms" that seemed very fake. You can usually pick out the over the top porn flick style moaning and tell that it's fake. Uncontrollable body spasms, sweating, and hip bucking accompanied by moaning and a gush of fluids probably isn't fake. So it very much runs the gamut between spreading their legs just for the money and doing it because they're incredibly horny and like getting laid as much as we do.

As for the high end Nevada brothels, I'm not an expert because I've never visited one, but the 70% figure is probably pretty close to spot on. Some of the girls may very well have high sex drive and cum multiple times a day with multiple clients. Others may be put off by the sex part (but obviously not put off by the money) and never cum at all with clients. And I think those numbers probably fairly readily transfer to AMP girls. There's a couple Chinese I've been with in OC who had very intense orgasms after I spent 15-20 minutes with my head clamped between their thighs. I've had just as many who I've practiced my oral skills on who didn't seem to get turned on by it at all. They stayed dry and pretty much just went through the motions. In fairness, it's hard to expect them to get turned on and have orgasms with every client when their job is to spread their legs for a dozen strangers a day in a dark, cramped, dingy room. It's not so hard seeing a girl orgasm when she sees at most 1 or 2 per day, and those 1 or 2 are ones she hand selects and verifies out of dozens of requests she gets every day.

[BSouthgate]

Ugh, Shenzhen. I used to call it Shitzhen. To be fair, most of my experiences there were in the early to mid-90's when that town was just a shithole. I literally couldn't walk more than 10 feet down a sidewalk without hookers not just propositioning me, but literally grabbing me and trying to pull me into a building. Most of them looked like low class street hookers. Nobody I'd want a toss in the hay with. I don't recall if saunas were a thing there at that time or not. I was still pretty naive about that sort of thing and you didn't just hop on the internet in those days to research stuff. I haven't been back to Shenzhen for many years but I do understand that the city has cleaned up a lot. Quangzhou was a similarly crappy city in those years, and that city has certainly cleaned up significantly.

I remember the Shanghai saunas having red rope service which is something I haven't seen anywhere else. That is where there were a set of red ropes above the bed. The girl would suspend herself from them upside down, then twist the ropes up and start giving you a BJ. As she was blowing you the ropes would untwist, so she's spinning around in a circle while bobbing her head up and down on your dick. It was interesting to say the least. I'm not sure I can say it felt better than a regular BJ but it was an interesting visual.

Experienced red rope in Shanghai and Beijing. Nowhere else.

Found this video showing how it works:

https://xhamster.com/videos/aerial-r...s-head-5237053

[BSouthgate]

Do the hookers sometimes really enjoy sex? This has been discussed in a few points recently in the MP thread.

My contribution to the discussion is to suggest two books. The first is Martha Stein, Lovers friends slaves, the nine male sexual types and their psycho-sexual transactions with call girls. Stein says she observed about 3,000 sex acts, perhaps exceeding Masters and Johnson's record. The second is Alexa Albert, Brothel, the Mustant Ranch and its women.

I put a lot of credence in women who have spend a whole lot of time with sex workers, talking with them.

Lift Her Up.

Thank you for referring this book, Brothel by Alexa Albert, to us.

Albert sees the Mustang Ranch women through the cultural lens that includes the strangeness of prostitutes enjoying sex with clients. Her cultural belief is that it is still novel for women to enjoy sex at all and certainly they cannot enjoy sex with so many guys with whom they have only a casual acquaintance. Despite this flaw in the author's psychology, she does admit that at least 70% of the Mustang hookers orgasm "sometimes" and one orgasms as many as 7 times a day with clients. She notes that the brothel girls do not want to admit sexual enjoyment with clients and mock women who do admit such enjoyment.

Before the 1960's and the American sexual revolution, women rarely admitted enjoying sex and men did not know what a clit was. It was not important for women to enjoy sex though it was clear to me as a child from the sounds emanating from my parents bedroom that Mama was having more fun than Papa. I lived through that era. I remember.

Actually, women can enjoy sex and orgasm much more frequently than men can. They can enjoy with more partners than we can enjoy with. Prostitutes are no different. In fact, they choose their career because their libido and frequency of enjoyment is on the high side.

Thanks again for referring this book. Please enjoy again this video showing hookers having fun.

https://pornzog.com/video/13191912/h...y-party-manny/

[BSouthgate]

I don't appreciate the discourteous response which feels like a personal attack tinged with some unnecessary hostility because I dared to disagree, and provided inconvenient facts that undermined your off topic pro-CCP propoganda narrative. The facts are widely available online.

I am familiar with both China and Chinese for decades. May I ask one question of you? Do you seriously believe what you are saying that mimics the state controlled / censored media and Chinese Communist Party talking points? Or, like the pro-CCP shills on Youtube (who claim there is no genocide or Uighurs, etc.), do you get paid to deliver this kind of message? Its been documented by some YT commentators that Chinese government agents reach out and offer cash payments for people to get online and propagate nonsense.

Yes, many Chinese are unaware of what is happening because they live in a dictatorship. There is no freedom of speech, and no neutral news sources. Several Chinese are in jail now for merely reporting what was happening with the pandemic. Another Chinese lady just got sentenced to 4 years in jail, for claiming she was sexually harassed. Many Chinese believe their media that Americans and Japanese are to blame for their downfall, and are lashing out with stabbing attacks on Americans and Japanese in the past week or two. On the other hand, Chinese are so desperate to get into the US, and they are lining up for miles at the US embassy in Beijing daily, and some sneak across the Mexican boarder now in record numbers.

Consider this possibility. The Western media propaganda told us that Saddam had WMD. They told us that Putin would be overthrown in a few months after he ordered the Ukraine invasion. They told us that the Russian economy would collapse under western sanctions.

They always make these kinds of lies about China. You are thoroughly convinced because you only read and listen to the western media. Your remarks reflect that since they mirror almost the exact words found in the legacy press (NYT, WP, NYP, BBC, CNN, FOX, etc) Perhaps DRD, you are being lied to like in the case of Saddam and Putin. I can only ask that you consider reading the work of Eric Li.

https://www.amazon.com/Party-Life-Ch...&keywords=eric+li+party+life&qid=1719457038&sprefix=eric+li+party+life%2 Caps%2 C135&sr=8-1.

Or, if you don't like to read, try his TED talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0YjL9rZyR0.

Or try this book by a Singaporean foreign minister:

https://www.amazon.com/Has-China-Won...ords=mahbubani+has+China+won&qid=1719457169&sprefix=mahbubani+has+China+won%2 Caps%2 C136&sr=8-1.

You like Singapore. In your comments you implied that this autocratically run city state is a liberal democracy. Guess you got that from the NYT or Fox.

Or you can try watching Cyrus Jansen.

https://www.capitaleconomics.com/qua...SAAEgI4SvD_BwE

Or better still, try visiting China for just a month and talking confidentially to some of its people.

No, DRD, I am not paid nor was I ever paid by the CCP. I sacrificed a lot in my life, to help China and I am proud of my contributions.

While the US government degenerates into forever political bickering between politicians controlled by corporations and wealthy donors, China is steadily moving ahead. I helped China a little tiny bit and I am so proud.

You mentioned Li Ke Qiang (correct spelling) in one of your posts. I shook hands with this guy in 2018, October. He probably did say something about 900,000 people still in poverty. Do the math if you are up to it. What percent is 900,000 out of 1.4 billion?

[DarkRoomDaddy]

DRD obviously hates China. But the Chinese people do not. How much time has DRD spent in China? Where are the sources of his bullshit? There are none cited.

I don't appreciate the discourteous response which feels like a personal attack tinged with some unnecessary hostility because I dared to disagree, and provided inconvenient facts that undermined your off topic pro-CCP propoganda narrative. The facts are widely available online.

I am familiar with both China and Chinese for decades. May I ask one question of you? Do you seriously believe what you are saying that mimics the state controlled / censored media and Chinese Communist Party talking points? Or, like the pro-CCP shills on Youtube (who claim there is no genocide or Uighurs, etc.), do you get paid to deliver this kind of message? Its been documented by some YT commentators that Chinese government agents reach out and offer cash payments for people to get online and propagate nonsense.

Yes, many Chinese are unaware of what is happening because they live in a dictatorship. There is no freedom of speech, and no neutral news sources. Several Chinese are in jail now for merely reporting what was happening with the pandemic. Another Chinese lady just got sentenced to 4 years in jail, for claiming she was sexually harassed. Many Chinese believe their media that Americans and Japanese are to blame for their downfall, and are lashing out with stabbing attacks on Americans and Japanese in the past week or two. On the other hand, Chinese are so desperate to get into the US, and they are lining up for miles at the US embassy in Beijing daily, and some sneak across the Mexican boarder now in record numbers.

[Grimmy23]

You have a great memory Grimmy.

The all male saunas were mostly in Shanghai, Shenzhen, east coast. Most of those that I frequented were in provincial cities like Chengdu and Kunming. All of them were great.

Ugh, Shenzhen. I used to call it Shitzhen. To be fair, most of my experiences there were in the early to mid-90's when that town was just a shithole. I literally couldn't walk more than 10 feet down a sidewalk without hookers not just propositioning me, but literally grabbing me and trying to pull me into a building. Most of them looked like low class street hookers. Nobody I'd want a toss in the hay with. I don't recall if saunas were a thing there at that time or not. I was still pretty naive about that sort of thing and you didn't just hop on the internet in those days to research stuff. I haven't been back to Shenzhen for many years but I do understand that the city has cleaned up a lot. Quangzhou was a similarly crappy city in those years, and that city has certainly cleaned up significantly.

I remember the Shanghai saunas having red rope service which is something I haven't seen anywhere else. That is where there were a set of red ropes above the bed. The girl would suspend herself from them upside down, then twist the ropes up and start giving you a BJ. As she was blowing you the ropes would untwist, so she's spinning around in a circle while bobbing her head up and down on your dick. It was interesting to say the least. I'm not sure I can say it felt better than a regular BJ but it was an interesting visual.