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  1. #31665

    Rules when talking to cops

    Quote Originally Posted by SandersNut  [View Original Post]
    Thats exactly right. You're there for a massage. Unless the provider says you are there for something else and there is footage, you have nothing to worry about. Never allow them to intimidating you into saying anything different. And if they say you're on tape, continue your denial and tell them to prove it (they are allowed to lie to you).

    Just never admit to anything illegal.

    I remember reading about a local raid a year or so ago where a monger was there at the time of the raid. They got him to admit to a h/e (are you kidding me). At that point there are charges but not without the admission of guilt.

    Be smart gentleman.
    I posted about this the last time another facility got popped and I feel like I have to share this PSA every time this shit happens.

    Guys, if you are EVER talking to cops. DON'T! Follow this script:

    1) When being detained / stopped / propositioned by police you say: "Why are holding me here / stopping me / etc?" . They have to tell you why, otherwise it's illegal.

    2) If they start asking questions about what you're doing there or where you're going or even who you are; you say "I'm not discussing my day / identifying myself to you. " The laws in Michigan clearly state that you do not have to identify yourself to a police officer UNLESS you are being arrested. Don't tell them or disclose SHIT! They're counting on you to volunteer info to incriminate yourself.

    3) If they keep asking questions (or you just want to leave and know they don't have shit on you (because odds are they don't)); you say "Am I being detained, or am I free to go? They have to answer that question BY LAW otherwise it's illegal and can be considered entrapment.

    4) If they say you are free to go, say nothing else and GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE. If they say you are being detained; you say this "At this time I invoke my 5th amendment rights". You have to say this phrase specifically because then cops know they cannot ask you any other questions, full stop.

    5) SHUT THE FUCK UP AFTER THIS!! Seriously SHUT THE FUCK UP! By invoking your 5th amendment rights you have signaled that you are remaining silent until either arrested or told that you are free to go. Do not give up any personal info unless you are told specifically that you are under arrest. Do not give into their game of "I'll let you go if you show me some I'd". No, fuck that. Keep on saying "Am I being detained or am I free to go?" until they tell you are free to go.

    6) If arrested, STAY FUCKING SILENT until you speak to a lawyer. They can only hold you without evidence for up to 24 hours and unless there is some hidden security camera with clear ass audio specifically stating that you are exchanging sex for money, cops can do fuck all to prosecute you. They'll just hope you'll crack under the pressure and incriminate yourself by volunteering information. DON'T LET THEM WIN!!

    In summary, here's the script:

    "Why are you stopping me?

    Cops ask questions: "I'm not discussing my day with you".

    They ask more questions "Am I being detained or am I free to go?

    Free to go? GET THE FUCK OUT AND DON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE.

    Detained? "I invoke my 5th amendment rights at this time".

    AND THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP until you are given clearance that you're free to go or you are able to speak to a lawyer (even a court appointed one).

    Above all else. NEVER FUCKING TALK TO COPS. SERIOUSLY! FUCK THEM!

    Please note that I am not a lawyer and for legal reasons my advice should not be taken as legal advice. However, my ex was a criminal defense attorney so take that for what you will.

  2. #31664
    Quote Originally Posted by SandersNut  [View Original Post]
    Thats exactly right. You're there for a massage. Unless the provider says you are there for something else and there is footage, you have nothing to worry about. Never allow them to intimidating you into saying anything different. And if they say you're on tape, continue your denial and tell them to prove it (they are allowed to lie to you).

    Just never admit to anything illegal.

    I remember reading about a local raid a year or so ago where a monger was there at the time of the raid. They got him to admit to a h/e (are you kidding me). At that point there are charges but not without the admission of guilt.

    Be smart gentleman.
    I agree but would caution against talking to them at all.

    Yes they can lie to you but never get into a debate with them like challenging them prove it or even deny it.

    If they've stopped you and are questioning you, the ONLY thing to ask is, am I free to go or am I being detained? If they don't give a direct answer (and they won't) ask again. And continue to ask until they make it clear.

    If you're not being detained FUCKING LEAVE.

    If you are being detained, say I invoke my 5th ammendment right to remain silent and I WANT A LAWYER. And yes, the Supreme Court has said you have to say out loud that you invoke the 5th. And then for God's sake SHUT THE FUCK UP.

    This is what they do for a living. If they can get you to start talking, that's half the battle.

    If they have enough evidence to arrest you, you're not talking yourself out of it. Period.

    There is absolutely NOTHING you can say that will ever help you.

    As an attorney friend of mine is fond of saying, All of my clients have the right to remain silent. Few have the ability.

  3. #31663
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterPaul  [View Original Post]
    I returned and was happy to spend some time with Tracy. I believe she is the girl I wrote of before. Her appearance is excellent. She speaks good English and her skills are quite good. I miss Lydia but Tracy is just as good. She is just a pleasure to be around.
    Mister Paul.

    Clear your mailbox and please PM me.

  4. #31662

    Massage parlor

    Quote Originally Posted by Softailrider  [View Original Post]
    It's a massage establishment, you're there to get a massage. Unless they see you do something or see you have involvement in something that's not legal, I'm not getting what the problem would be.
    Thats exactly right. You're there for a massage. Unless the provider says you are there for something else and there is footage, you have nothing to worry about. Never allow them to intimidating you into saying anything different. And if they say you're on tape, continue your denial and tell them to prove it (they are allowed to lie to you).

    Just never admit to anything illegal.

    I remember reading about a local raid a year or so ago where a monger was there at the time of the raid. They got him to admit to a h/e (are you kidding me). At that point there are charges but not without the admission of guilt.

    Be smart gentleman.

  5. #31661
    Quote Originally Posted by Rgv956  [View Original Post]
    They can call or question you why you're there. Not sure about being arrested. I stopped going few weeks ago.

    But hey let's get that FS list so we can googlemaps.
    It's a massage establishment, you're there to get a massage. Unless they see you do something or see you have involvement in something that's not legal, I'm not getting what the problem would be.

  6. #31660

    Soda

    Quote Originally Posted by JAsian  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone know if Soda has worked at any other spas in the area under a different name?
    I think she would have been raved about if so. She had the most amazing body I have had. Seriously flawless skin, ass was really perfect, bolt ons were perfect c / d cup. Model type waist. Beautiful face, I was in heaven in my session with her. She would have been the talk of town once he word got out. I popped once doggy, then again from oral. And I was spent but she was still ready for more. She is from Dallas and that's where she said she was going back to. She said that was her first day at all green but I didn't ask if she had worked at another local spa.

  7. #31659
    Quote Originally Posted by SandersNut  [View Original Post]
    This is very interesting. Either a unreal coincidence or I tipped le off with my post yesterday. I was there in the morning and had a VIP experience with Soda, the provider. In getting to know her after the massage, I asked how long she would be there, she hesitated and said she would be going back to texas tomorrow. We chatted more and said "don't tell Mama but they close here tomorrow, this last day for spa. Then she asked if there were other k spas that offer FS. I said yes and she seemed surprised and asked where. So that's where my Intel came from and she stressed " don't tell Mama" on my way out.

    Looks like I dodged a bullet by not going later in the day.

    Stay safe mongers.

    SN.
    Does anyone know if Soda has worked at any other spas in the area under a different name?

  8. #31658
    Quote Originally Posted by HughJorganJk  [View Original Post]
    Is Victoria the girl in the add? Did it sound like more than HJ was available?
    Is she running the luxe in roch?

  9. #31657
    Quote Originally Posted by SandersNut  [View Original Post]
    I didn't get the impression that she knew they were getting busted. I thought she was saying that the handler (Mama's boss) didn't want mama to know that they were not going to re-open the next day. I don't think she knew what was coming. How could she know? That's why in my last post I thought, what a huge coincidence 🤔. Anyhow, stay safe out there..
    My guess is the owner must've known the bust was coming the next day and only told the provider that it would close, nothing more, to avoid panic. However, word must've leaked that the bust would come that afternoon and that's why they got the girls and mamma out of there fast.

    The only thing that doesn't make sense is why they would want to keep it from Mamma while telling only the girls. That serves no purpose at all. She would have found out within the day (and as it turns out, that afternoon) anyway so there is probably more to the story.

  10. #31656

    Provider awareness

    Quote Originally Posted by Rgv956  [View Original Post]
    Yes extremely luck is needed. That place has tons of camera in the parking at front, upon entrance and at the hallway. I'd be very worried if that place really got busted. Pretty sure LE know who you are, your plate number and why you're there.
    I didn't get the impression that she knew they were getting busted. I thought she was saying that the handler (Mama's boss) didn't want mama to know that they were not going to re-open the next day. I don't think she knew what was coming. How could she know? That's why in my last post I thought, what a huge coincidence 🤔. Anyhow, stay safe out there.

    SN.

  11. #31655
    Quote Originally Posted by Softailrider  [View Original Post]
    In there to get a massage at a licensed business. They can't arrest you for being there, or walking in there can they?
    They can call or question you why you're there. Not sure about being arrested. I stopped going few weeks ago.

    But hey let's get that FS list so we can googlemaps.

  12. #31654
    Quote Originally Posted by RWhite  [View Original Post]
    Seen this post and wanted to stop by since I was coming from Livingston county but there was the infamous Highland Twp Deputy in the parking lot he drives the black and white Tahoe that man is all business so I kept it moving ya'll stay safe.
    Are you talking the place by the Lift and old CVS or rebalance off Milford Rd? If LEO is in the driveway of rebalance that would be concerning.

  13. #31653
    Quote Originally Posted by Rgv956  [View Original Post]
    Yes extremely luck is needed. That place has tons of camera in the parking at front, upon entrance and at the hallway. I'd be very worried if that place really got busted. Pretty sure LE know who you are, your plate number and why you're there.
    In there to get a massage at a licensed business. They can't arrest you for being there, or walking in there can they?

  14. #31652

    Highland

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceSpace  [View Original Post]
    I pass this place a few times a week going to work. Does anyone have any intel? Is it legit or are there extras to be had?
    Seen this post and wanted to stop by since I was coming from Livingston county but there was the infamous Highland Twp Deputy in the parking lot he drives the black and white Tahoe that man is all business so I kept it moving ya'll stay safe.

  15. #31651
    Quote Originally Posted by Smashing1979  [View Original Post]
    I started asking my sources. They said the girls and mamma-san got out of there before LEO stormed them. Not sure why she would stress "don't tell mamma. " They all work at the same damn place LOL. Did she want mamma to get caught and not her? And how would your provider know about the LE coming, but still be lackadaisical about it, still providing service and planning to leave the next day?

    Here is another bit of info: they closed down a week because of LE but figured the heat was down and that's why they re-opened. But LE was planning to check up on them soon after, so those who went the week after they re-opened (but didn't get caught) are extremely lucky.

    Something is really fishy here.
    Yes extremely luck is needed. That place has tons of camera in the parking at front, upon entrance and at the hallway. I'd be very worried if that place really got busted. Pretty sure LE know who you are, your plate number and why you're there.

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