"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Buck Owens]

Looking for some thoughts form anyone that has met a bartender. Waitress etc and how they may of approached with them if they would have an interest in a mutually beneficial scenario?. I appreciate your thoughts and experience!

FWIW years ago I had a smoking hot barber that as time went on I ended up going to her place to get my haircuts rather than the shop she worked out of. She was always complaining about $ issues and I broached the subject of a mutually beneficial arrangement with her. Needless to say I tipped astronomically well for a haircut and we had a really good time for a number of years. I'd simply call her up and say I needed a haircut every couple of weeks and sometimes she would give me a cut but she always gave some trim! She eventually fell in love moved to the country and got fat.

Stay Safe!

Buck.

[Dawgins]

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You need to learn the difference between trapping somebody in a corner and using a little game to see if a chick would be interested. Read the second post after this one and learn someting.

I ran restaurants for years and most of the hot waitresses had some guy taking them places they couldn't afford.

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[LikeMike1963]

Looking for some thoughts form anyone that has met a bartender. Waitress etc and how they may of approached with them if they would have an interest in a mutually beneficial scenario?. I appreciate your thoughts and experience!

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[IAmNotGr8]

Just make their life really annoying. Sign there phone and address up for everything under the sun. Free subscriptions. Phone solicitors. Sales calls. Anything along that line you can think of.

Any subscription will send an email for confirmation, until the person gives consent they are not subscribed. Also all this subscription group email comes with unsubscribe link. So it's easy to unsubscribe.

Ph# works somewhat better. You share the phone number with telemarketers and donation websites. LOL.

Not sure how the address can be used to annoy someone.

It will interesting other people's ideas on this topic.

[NastyFrostyyy]

Hey guys new here. Anyone have experience with this one?

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...b-f1bd5cc4c6f7

[TravelinSD]

All great advice and overview from Gone. Not so much anymore, but the Richmond, VA sugar baby thread was the defacto national forum for general info for ages. There is a thread of favorites from that thread in the Richmond User Blogs as well:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...-Index-and-FAQ

Good luck and good hunting!

Travelin.

I'm new to the sugar baby game, what exactly are "arrangements"? Like in my mind I'm thinking its SW but I could be wrong. I've been on seeking and alot of the girls have been talking about arrangements do they mean like money? Or is it a mutually beneficial type of thing somebody help me out.

[GoneForGood97]

Man I sure wish I would have read this before I started having conversations with a few of them. I'm sure Ill have some great success thanks for you input, really helped me out alot on my jounery Ill read your older post so I can get a better understanding. This is 10 x better then regular SW on listcrawlers I think ill enjoy this alot. LOL.

Here's a link to a post where I provide links to some of my more well received advice posts. Hope these help. Good luck!

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6451251

[LikeMike1963]

Just make their life really annoying. Sign there phone and address up for everything under the sun. Free subscriptions. Phone solicitors. Sales calls. Anything along that line you can think of.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...2-1246c4dad30c

I've been talking to her for weeks. Exchanging pics and just having normal conversation. Said her and her roommate needed money for rent. They offered a 3 way for $600. She gave me her address. I show up and they lead me to the bedroom. Everything checked out so far. As soon as I hand over the cash, a dude runs out asking what I'm doing in his house and kicks me out while pretending to yell at the girls for having me over. They run off and hide.

I'm deciding what I want to do since his house isn't far and her number isn't a burner. I use Spokeo.com to find out all the info.

She has none of my info. I use a burner myself and leave my wallet in my vehicle anytime I meet someone.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...2-1246c4dad30c

I've been talking to her for weeks. Exchanging pics and just having normal conversation. Said her and her roommate needed money for rent. They offered a 3 way for $600. She gave me her address. I show up and they lead me to the bedroom. Everything checked out so far. As soon as I hand over the cash, a dude runs out asking what I'm doing in his house and kicks me out while pretending to yell at the girls for having me over. They run off and hide.

I'm deciding what I want to do since his house isn't far and her number isn't a burner. I use Spokeo.com to find out all the info.

She has none of my info. I use a burner myself and leave my wallet in my vehicle anytime I meet someone.

Damn that is messed up, but considering you have their address and they don't have any of your info, seems like you can fuck with them somehow.

[MilfHunter818]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...2-1246c4dad30c

I've been talking to her for weeks. Exchanging pics and just having normal conversation. Said her and her roommate needed money for rent. They offered a 3 way for $600. She gave me her address. I show up and they lead me to the bedroom. Everything checked out so far. As soon as I hand over the cash, a dude runs out asking what I'm doing in his house and kicks me out while pretending to yell at the girls for having me over. They run off and hide.

I'm deciding what I want to do since his house isn't far and her number isn't a burner. I use Spokeo.com to find out all the info.

She has none of my info. I use a burner myself and leave my wallet in my vehicle anytime I meet someone.

[TheAnswer4]

Man I sure wish I would have read this before I started having conversations with a few of them. I'm sure Ill have some great success thanks for you input, really helped me out alot on my jounery Ill read your older post so I can get a better understanding. This is 10 x better then regular SW on listcrawlers I think ill enjoy this alot. LOL.

GoneforGood97 is a real one and a top contributor to this thread. Great advice.

[GreekLurker212]

The "arrangement" is whatever 2 consenting adults want it to be. For most people, that's dates plus sex for cash. For some, it's just straight up sex for cash. However, there are some girls and guys that use gifts / trips / fancy dinners instead of pure cash. The arrangement might be "I take you to 5 star restaurants and a shopping trip and we hook up afterwards. ".

I've had a few that just wanted to be "spoiled" occasionally in exchange for hooking up. About a year or so back I had a early 30's cutie who just wanted a mani / pedi / massage spa day once a month. If I paid for that for her once a month, she'd fuck my brains out every week. It was a pretty sweet deal, but not very common. I had one late last year that agreed to hook up with me if I would sub to her OnlyF*ns afterwards (I would never agree to beforehand). We met at a hotel, we fucked twice, I subbed to her OF right there on the spot for $15. Canceled it a couple of weeks later after she ghosted, but not before downloading all her material.

Most of my cash arrangements are 200 per intimate date, plus I pay for hotel, or if they can host, I'll do 300 for them per intimate date. If we meet for coffee or dinner I'll cover the tab as well.

When I first talk to a potential sugar baby (or POT) I get to know them first, standard online dating questions. Once we've been talking a few hours, or even a day or 2, I'll normally ask them if they want to talk about the "arrangement." I ask them what they are looking for, and try to get them to be the first to mention money, though some will play coy. If they do, I'll generally ask them if they prefer a cash allowance, gifts, or something else. Once they finally tell me what they are looking for, then I'll ask if they are willing to talk through the intimate details so we can make sure we have chemistry before figuring the specifics of the arrangement. At that point I point blank ask them what they enjoy sexually, and have a pretty detailed talk about what turns them on. If this goes well then our conversation will actually turn them on. If they're turned on enough, I can usually get nudes / vids at this point for free. Another bonus of turning them on is they actually will WANT to meet you, and are willing to see you for less than normal (since if theoretically if you turned them on here you could have just as easily turned them on through a standard dating site and they would've fucked you for free anyways). Once I feel like they really like me, I ask them specifically what they are looking for allowance/gift wise, and then negotiate from there.

It's not a 100% success rate but you can comb through my post history under this thread to see specific examples. When my SA sub is active, I can normally bag 4-5 different girls, usually in their early 20s - early 30s, maybe the occasional 19 year old, and never pay more than 300 per date. You have to be willing to pass on girls who have GPS (gold pussy syndrome), the girls who are wannabe instagram models or influencers who think a billionaire should pay them thousands a week. When someone is unreasonable or not willing to move come down to a reasonable arrangement, I tell them we're not a good fit and move on. Remember, there's a LOT more "average income" guys on the site than there are multi-millionaires, and as long as you're willing to say "no" to some very pretty girls, you'll find some real pretty ones that'll take great care of you, are grateful for the help you give them, and won't break the bank.

Man I sure wish I would have read this before I started having conversations with a few of them. I'm sure Ill have some great success thanks for you input, really helped me out alot on my jounery Ill read your older post so I can get a better understanding. This is 10 x better then regular SW on listcrawlers I think ill enjoy this alot. LOL.

[Hal1957]

My most recent lasted three years, single mom who said if she was going to have sex with a guy she might as well get paid for it! After a "get-to-know-you" weekend at a boutique hotel on the coast (her suggestion after a few days of texting), I paid her rent, she gave me a key to the apartment and I spent 2-3 day weekends there every week. Fantastic sex. Definitely a unicorn. But definitely the exception.

Best advice is to ease into it until you figure out what your budget and schedule will accommodate. And NEVER hand over cash until the intimate date. I prefer at least a few days of casual texting, m / g over coffee or drinks, or late lunch at a sit-down restaurant when the crowd has gone back to work and you can have a semi-private conversation. PPM for each intimate "meeting" until you're satisfied she's not going to bolt when you giver her the first monthly allowance.

The "arrangement" is whatever 2 consenting adults want it to be. For most people, that's dates plus sex for cash. For some, it's just straight up sex for cash. However, there are some girls and guys that use gifts / trips / fancy dinners instead of pure cash. The arrangement might be "I take you to 5 star restaurants and a shopping trip and we hook up afterwards. ".

I've had a few that just wanted to be "spoiled" occasionally in exchange for hooking up. About a year or so back I had a early 30's cutie who just wanted a mani / pedi / massage spa day once a month. If I paid for that for her once a month, she'd fuck my brains out every week. It was a pretty sweet deal, but not very common. I had one late last year that agreed to hook up with me if I would sub to her OnlyF*ns afterwards (I would never agree to beforehand). We met at a hotel, we fucked twice, I subbed to her OF right there on the spot for $15. Canceled it a couple of weeks later after she ghosted, but not before downloading all her material.

Most of my cash arrangements are 200 per intimate date, plus I pay for hotel, or if they can host, I'll do 300 for them per intimate date. If we meet for coffee or dinner I'll cover the tab as well.

When I first talk to a potential sugar baby (or POT) I get to know them first, standard online dating questions. Once we've been talking a few hours, or even a day or 2, I'll normally ask them if they want to talk about the "arrangement." I ask them what they are looking for, and try to get them to be the first to mention money, though some will play coy. If they do, I'll generally ask them if they prefer a cash allowance, gifts, or something else. Once they finally tell me what they are looking for, then I'll ask if they are willing to talk through the intimate details so we can make sure we have chemistry before figuring the specifics of the arrangement. At that point I point blank ask them what they enjoy sexually, and have a pretty detailed talk about what turns them on. If this goes well then our conversation will actually turn them on. If they're turned on enough, I can usually get nudes / vids at this point for free. Another bonus of turning them on is they actually will WANT to meet you, and are willing to see you for less than normal (since if theoretically if you turned them on here you could have just as easily turned them on through a standard dating site and they would've fucked you for free anyways). Once I feel like they really like me, I ask them specifically what they are looking for allowance/gift wise, and then negotiate from there.

It's not a 100% success rate but you can comb through my post history under this thread to see specific examples. When my SA sub is active, I can normally bag 4-5 different girls, usually in their early 20s - early 30s, maybe the occasional 19 year old, and never pay more than 300 per date. You have to be willing to pass on girls who have GPS (gold pussy syndrome), the girls who are wannabe instagram models or influencers who think a billionaire should pay them thousands a week. When someone is unreasonable or not willing to move come down to a reasonable arrangement, I tell them we're not a good fit and move on. Remember, there's a LOT more "average income" guys on the site than there are multi-millionaires, and as long as you're willing to say "no" to some very pretty girls, you'll find some real pretty ones that'll take great care of you, are grateful for the help you give them, and won't break the bank.