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  1. #47728

    Re: Gong Fu

    Quote Originally Posted by HotBoss  [View Original Post]
    I don't post much anymore but I recently found something fresh. I enjoy the specialty therapists of Orlando about twice a month and visit more tame shops on my off weeks.

    I found a place near Tavares with Japanese ladies that are actually skilled in massage therapy. I was greeted by 4 Japanese girls that seemed to be college aged but probably mid twenties. Only one didn't speak decent English. They seemed very happy and casual. It did not seem to be a place featuring sexual services. The ladies were all dressed like they were ready to go for a run. I committed to an hour for 80. Table shower is 20 extra but I had just showered at home. After meeting the girls, I didn't expect extras.

    The massage started and I quickly learned that my therapist has real massage skills. I experienced real Deep Tissue, acupressure, and excellent hot stone use. The teasing was not accidental but was part of the massage. She worked groin muscles while I was face down.

    On the flip, the HJ began and I was told "This is an important part of a full body massage". I agree. The massage continued and included a decent reflexology session. I felt so good that I forgot to look at the clock when I was finished but I'm sure it went over an hour. No tip amount was specified at any time. I usually pay 40 or 50 for a rub and tug but this was great. I handed her 60 on the way out.

    This was the best full body massage I've had in a very long time. I will certainly return to Gong Fu. It's located on Lake Harris Dr in Tavares off route 19.
    I returned for round II and to verify what I wrote last week.

    The Therapist from last week is Japanese. The others and the boss are not Japanese. The Japanese girl (Lulu) works part time and lives nearby. I was told that when requested she can be there in a few minutes, or I can call ahead to request her to be there.

    My second visit was with a Chinese woman around 25 ish with very good English skills. She's only going to be there a few more days. Decent massage but not like the first time there. This time my hands roamed freely but still just a HJ. I asked about extras after the flip but it's not available.

    This place seems different. It's not far from a college and I'm wondering if they're recruiting Asian talent from the massage school. I'll ask next time. I was wrong when I told you all it's a Japanese massage parlor, it is not. Someone else wrote about a nasty visit at night. I've been going earlier in the day.

    I did see one older looking woman there today working in the back.

  2. #47727
    That's more than likely to be the case for you RowdyReptile and many other guys, but please note that what I have described is something that can happen to new or infrequent customers. I am not the only one that has been asked to give the house fee upfront and be put in a room to wait. This is a fact. What is also a fact is that now I only visit places where there is at least one girl that knows me and all of my subsequent visits after my described experience with Cici did not come with issues with tip. I've had individual sessions with Yoyo and Kiki which were first time visits but since Blue has known me for awhile she introduced me nicely and the formalities were not formal at all.

    There is nothing wrong with stating a fact that sometimes the girls make a customer wait in the room after collecting the house fee. It's what happens after that is in dispute. There is a big difference between regular customers that go weekly or multiple times a week, versus a new customer. We will never actually know the truth, but the track record at those spas means they can handle the rare bad experience. Don't think it's necessary for everyone to come running to defend them though. Their reputation speaks for themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by RowdyReptile  [View Original Post]
    I pay for the full hr, I never split it, even if they put me in a room for 20 min. I pleasantly tell them I will pay full fee when my girl I asked for comes in the room, they back down and say ok.

  3. #47726

    House Fee

    Quote Originally Posted by FootyFanatic14  [View Original Post]
    No you should get your money back then leave. Both parties at that point are not going to be in the best mood after initial negotiations have gone sour. I will say this though, if the place is a little busy they will put you in the room and take the house fee as a sort of insurance that you will stay for your session. This has happened multiple times and others have definitely experienced this too. So him giving the house fee up front is something that can be expected if it's someone that is not a regular. I do not know Grace, but Cici has done this to me and I still have the image of her sticking her hand out asking for more money after she counted $240. But as a regular, money is an afterthought and on a few occasions I've found myself being walked out before even giving the total gift.
    I pay for the full hr, I never split it, even if they put me in a room for 20 min. I pleasantly tell them I will pay full fee when my girl I asked for comes in the room, they back down and say ok.

  4. #47725

    Small hottie

    Live near Ocala, but kinda bored with selection here, heard Orlando gets all the prime talent, where is the best place for a petite hottie who will make it worth the drive.

  5. #47724
    Quote Originally Posted by JaxGuitar  [View Original Post]
    I haven't been to Orlando since 2020 before COVID took over. I went to a place, $200 paid and that included EVERYTHING! I can't remember what it was called though. I'm reading a lot of reviews about Spring but seeing that's 240. Can anyone catch me up a little? Thanks.
    I can only speak for myself, I've gone to all the main ones, Tokyo, A2, Relax / formerly known as spring, Gardenia, Aqua, Ocean Star and still just give 200 and still get great service. Depending on how busy they are you may only get hh but it will still be a hh of total fun. Right now IMHO Gardenia and Relax are the best and I most recently went to Gardenia amd got 45 min for 200. But most know me to be clean and respectful. So they treat me very good. Just go in clean, act like you've been there and give them 200 amd you'll leave happy.

  6. #47723
    Quote Originally Posted by WillPayForFun  [View Original Post]
    My preference when getting ready to visit an AMP is to get cash first. If I can do it a day or 2 ahead that seems best as I almost always end up running late. I also get 20's thinking it's easier for them to deal with it than if I were to get larger bills.

    I am interested to hear what others think about the denomination.
    I don't like a large stack of bills that takes up too much room and might have to be counted.

    So I usually stick with 2 one-hundreds and a pair of 20's that's ready to go. And then I have a small stack of additional $ separate if I want to give extra.

  7. #47722

    Keep it simple

    Quote Originally Posted by Nudeed  [View Original Post]
    If you read the forum on a regular basis you should know that an hour is $240 (which I would presume that you knew based on you having that amount) Pay the full amount on entery and you should have no issues. If for some reason you aren't feeling the love than walk and get your money back. If you gave anthor $180 on top of the $100 for $280 total that would only be 40 more then normal.
    My preference when getting ready to visit an AMP is to get cash first. If I can do it a day or 2 ahead that seems best as I almost always end up running late. I also get 20's thinking it's easier for them to deal with it than if I were to get larger bills.

    I am interested to hear what others think about the denomination.

  8. #47721
    Quote Originally Posted by JaxGuitar  [View Original Post]
    I haven't been to Orlando since 2020 before COVID took over. I went to a place, $200 paid and that included EVERYTHING! I can't remember what it was called though. I'm reading a lot of reviews about Spring but seeing that's 240. Can anyone catch me up a little? Thanks.
    The standard rate was $200 but most places are higher now -- in much the same way that everything else in life is more expensive now as well.

    For the best information search for Dr. Willys post with the title "Complete Idiot's" and you'll get all the information you need.

  9. #47720
    Quote Originally Posted by Rico7  [View Original Post]
    First, sorry to hear you had these problems. This is the exact opposite of our expectations when we go to the spa and I can sympathize with your frustrations.

    It does seem however that you describe two different scenarios, one that you paid at the front desk, and one where you paid in the room. Which was it? You apparently knew the cost ahead of time so why not just pay the price and keep it simple?

    I don't want to be repetitive, but for the purpose of this conversation I'll mention again that I don't live in Orlando, but get into town a few times a year, and have been doing so for a long time now. Like yourself, I read the forums to find the best girls and to understand the price and the etiquette. I briefly wrote about my "first time at Spring" a few days ago. I was met at the front desk, subsequently put in a room, and about two or three minutes later Grace came in an asked me how long I wanted. I smiled and told her an hour, made the appropriate donation and it was off the the races without a hitch. Had a really nice time too, beautiful girl, great service. In a word, uncomplicated.
    Not hear to answer your questions. Grace was a thief, pure and simple and I said do not trust a Hoe. I gave Grace a Benjamin at the front desk because $80 was the fee for one hour. She intentionally failed to get me change, though I asked her 2-3 times for my change, a $20 bill. Why don't you go there and get ripped off too! You think this was pleasant for me?? You think I want to be interrogated by you? I told you to avoid Grace and her $280 charge for something that should have been only 240. I am a Senior Member, this was not my first rodeo, so I have no more interest in responding to you or anyone else.

  10. #47719

    Best place?

    I haven't been to Orlando since 2020 before COVID took over. I went to a place, $200 paid and that included EVERYTHING! I can't remember what it was called though. I'm reading a lot of reviews about Spring but seeing that's 240. Can anyone catch me up a little? Thanks.

  11. #47718

    Curve ball

    I have gone to the garden 3 times in the past 2 months. It's only a ten minute drive from my house. I shower, lotion up. I have really really dry skin especially in the winter months, hop in the whip and drive over. I get lead to the room by either a MM or the provider. I've drawn Bella (hella body), Vicky (dirty talker) and I forget the last one, kinda frumpy. Anyhow beside the point. They ask how long, I hand over 200 and say no TS (I just don't want to risk my skin drying up or them putting some weird oil on me and I just got out of the shower 20 minutes ago) every time they say good. You so clean and it's off. I did negotiate a second girl with Bella after we had been doing naughty stuff for 20 minutes or so for an extra Ben. I've stayed close to an hour or just over every single time, never been rushed. Just sayin.

  12. #47717
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkGew  [View Original Post]
    1st visit, I'm not used to negotiating after basically keeping all my visits to the 5 or 6 that I just hand over 240 after getting into the room. Table shower cramped and sub par, she did lots of in and out of the room for whatever?? Basically rushed service. One and done for me.

    A bad visit at Tokyo was way better than this place.

    now this is weird, a lot of times lately when I leave a spa within 20 minutes I get a text from a spa girl that I gave my number to. Are they that well connected or coincidence??
    I believe some of the parlors are. When I still lived in Ohio I frequented some of the spa's in Warren. The MM's would occasionally make a comment about me visiting the other spa.

    Regards,

    H19.

  13. #47716
    No you should get your money back then leave. Both parties at that point are not going to be in the best mood after initial negotiations have gone sour. I will say this though, if the place is a little busy they will put you in the room and take the house fee as a sort of insurance that you will stay for your session. This has happened multiple times and others have definitely experienced this too. So him giving the house fee up front is something that can be expected if it's someone that is not a regular. I do not know Grace, but Cici has done this to me and I still have the image of her sticking her hand out asking for more money after she counted $240. But as a regular, money is an afterthought and on a few occasions I've found myself being walked out before even giving the total gift.

    Quote Originally Posted by HumbleHal  [View Original Post]
    So you recommend walking out and losing your $100 that you already paid?

  14. #47715
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1031

    Missly

    1st visit, I'm not used to negotiating after basically keeping all my visits to the 5 or 6 that I just hand over 240 after getting into the room. Table shower cramped and sub par, she did lots of in and out of the room for whatever?? Basically rushed service. One and done for me.

    A bad visit at Tokyo was way better than this place.

    now this is weird, a lot of times lately when I leave a spa within 20 minutes I get a text from a spa girl that I gave my number to. Are they that well connected or coincidence??

  15. #47714

    Rates

    Quote Originally Posted by HumbleHal  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for your post about the rate at Spring Massage, also know as Lets Relax Massage. I had an bad experience with Grace, all should know.

    I came for an hour and had 2 hundreds and 2 twenties. A mistake, maybe one should enter with only 20's?

    Grace greeted me at the front desk. I told her I would like full service and would pay $240 for an hour full service, as I learned the rate from a friend. The sign on the desk also says $80 for an hour. I gave her a hundred, told her it was a hundred, and asked for $20 back in change. She did not give me change, put me in a room and disappeared. Sometime later she came back in and said I would need to give her $180 more for full service. She pretended that I did not understand. I said I gave you 100 already and should get back 20. Then I would give another 120 more for full service. Not 180. She tried to charge me $60 more!

    Grace pretended to be cute about it and said "the hundred was for the house". I said, "no, $80 was for the house and I should get back $20 to go to the price of the full service. " I was angry at how she treated me and said, "give me back my hundred and I will leave". That was my only recourse at that point. She ruined my desire and the mood. I showed her I only had $120 left. Then she tried to be clever and grabbed my $120 and said "you get only a half an hour. " So I was upset about her trying to take advantage of me for $60 more and it ruined my desire of wanting to have sex with her. She was not attractive at that point, but a typical woman hoe trying to steal from me!

    Table Shower, but no TUMA. Not much desire on my part. Back in the room I saw her large cesarean cut, her baby damage also was a turn off. She was about 32 years old, not a "Spring Chicken", and would speak English when it was to her advantage, pretend not to know English when it was to her advantage.

    Got a half and hour and that was it. Still upset at how I was treated. Never trust a hoe. Paying up front before the services also can be a problem. And people from another country will hide behind their English and try to use that also to take advantage of you. Grace, no thank you. Glad many of you Gents had a better experience.
    If you read the forum on a regular basis you should know that an hour is $240 (which I would presume that you knew based on you having that amount) Pay the full amount on entery and you should have no issues. If for some reason you aren't feeling the love than walk and get your money back. If you gave anthor $180 on top of the $100 for $280 total that would only be 40 more then normal.

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