NoVA SugarBabies

[Pe250]

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...a-464079c5b1aa

Account is pretty new. Private pics don't reveal much. She is cagey about sharing face pics, but did volunteer her number after a few messages. Eager to setup meets in advance, but feels overall like a pro or local UTR. No ppm or performance details discussed yet. FC visit right after MnG is scheduled for next week. Anybody have more details?

I got "it depends 5 to 8.

[Jost815]

Anyone meet or have any experience with Sunny?

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...e-703e574e9fad

[Kpop1]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...2-a1158d9a6262

Pro vibes. Visiting from out of town and staying near Fairfax. Didn't ask price.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...e-d1b6d99bc7e2

DTF $800. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...1-a4d56ddb90fa

Quick to give me her number. Number was a local number so would think possibly real. Prob not going to meet as I'm busy with others.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...e-ba67d5bf6c9f

$600 DTF. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...8-7bb31bdbc653

Not into black chick currently. Messaged me with her number. Never responded.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...b-9630e24fc59b

Messaged me and wanted to meet for vday. I never responded. Black and thick. Bad combo for me currently.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...e-6a79ef51a9bc

Messaged me with her number and wanted to meet. Sent her a text and she never responded. Not sure if someone else is already banging her. Didn't get details.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...d-a98b5342f18c

DTF $700. After sharing her privates pass not my type.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...9-977e057510dc

Messaged me and wanted to meet. Not into Gothic girls. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...6-cbb82dabd255

Wants $300 PPM Platonic. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...9-496cd8b29f2d

Messaged me wants to meet. Pass too thick for me.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...c-c7ff09f8afc2

Messaged me and say she loves me. Pass not into black chicks.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...f-a0653f601b40

DTF $800. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...2-8130ea663d60

Chatted a bit on text and sounded boring. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...d-ae093fdc6976

DTF $1 k. In NY. Too far and expensive.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...f-00f19480e17b

DTF $800 in NY. Too far.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...5-6e799171de5f

DTF $700 in NY. Not pretty enough after sharing privates. Too far.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...9-b171bc159960

Went to text. Seemed ADHD and too much work. DTF but didn't discuss price as she was all over the place. Give me.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...a-26b1e38b1bee

Wants to travel for IG it seems like. DTF but wants PPM and monthly. Airheaded to didn't further discuss.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...d-2bd1793fc1f0

Willing to come visit me in DC. $1 k plus flights. After second thought too old for me.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...a-5215a0bac21d

Wanted to meet for free for dinner. Face looks too old for me. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...c-8de4fe54fe67

Willing to meet for free to see if theres a connection for dinner if I'm in NY. Too far.

I have a lot more but not enough time currently. Will upload more later.

[ChrisCarr]

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...a-464079c5b1aa

Account is pretty new. Private pics don't reveal much. She is cagey about sharing face pics, but did volunteer her number after a few messages. Eager to setup meets in advance, but feels overall like a pro or local UTR. No ppm or performance details discussed yet. FC visit right after MnG is scheduled for next week. Anybody have more details?

[BobDingle10]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...9-bf62eea70a6c

Wants allowance but if pressed will ask 750 ppm and other treats and spoiling as mandatory.

I respectfully passed.

[SRH59]

She's back on for like a third time. She was engaged to another chick, but looks like that's off. I had messaged and texted a year+ ago and she sent some ridiculous vids and pics, but never could get her to meet. I'm going to try again, as everyone should. Hat tip to anyone who pulls her!

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...c-ba5255ec0c7c

She's sexy. And totally unresponsive LOL. But online often. Perhaps narrowing the overwhelming interest she must have. Or perhaps becoming the next tibbytabby (hot, always online, inconsistent comms at best).

[FarFarAway]

Really great intel and thank you for sharing with the board. You clearly have "the game" to close the deal and get BCD's. I do however question not providing some type of financial gift even though it was not discussed up front. Pay to play is the entire premise of an arrangement. I've had this happen a few times where we smash prior to discussing the PPM and always provide something. I actually like this scenario because I get to set the rate as opposed to having to negotiate.

Yes, there was a guy who used to post a lot on this board. JZLizard - as he said, there is no such thing as free pussy. If you aren't paying for it in dollars, there could be 'expectations' developing on her part that could be much, much more expensive for you in the long run. Of course, we all have to keep this hobby affordable for ourselves. I consider the 'allowance' an insurance premium, among a few different things. Now, I have never had a girl offer to go to a complete FWB setup, but I am a geezer, and there's no way one of the girls I've enjoyed on an ongoing basis would see me as a pseudo-BF.

I do have an ex-SB who gets in touch once or twice a year, just did so on VDay, I think she was feeling lonely (no BF material in her current living setting), and it was flattering she was thinking about me. Even when we were together she said that I treated her better (not particularly financially. Her allowance was 1 K / mo) than any man ever had. Smoking hot sex too.

[Shinshi]

Really great intel and thank you for sharing with the board. You clearly have "the game" to close the deal and get BCD's. I do however question not providing some type of financial gift even though it was not discussed up front. Pay to play is the entire premise of an arrangement. I've had this happen a few times where we smash prior to discussing the PPM and always provide something. I actually like this scenario because I get to set the rate as opposed to having to negotiate.

In hindsight, I kinda regret not offering something to playfulgnd. And if I had to choose between her & ninahawk, I'd have opted for the former. Both encounters were during back-to-back weekends. I guess my thought process was that maybe they were into me enough to want a non-transactional FWB thing.

I've pulled off such a feat with two separate SBs years ago (regulars that have long since moved on from the site, unfortunately). One had been thoroughly reviewed before & told me to forget PPM after the first or second date. Her only ask was for me to book a hotel near her location & get her dinner every once in a while. The other SB was another regular who asked for PPM up until the third or fourth date before asking for something similar. After at least a dozen meetups apiece, both eventually claimed to have found someone else they wished to be monogamous with. So we parted amicably.

While Seeking is typically a pay-to-play site, it's not impossible to score a unicorn every so often. At no point did I ever suggest to any SB that we ought to ditch the payment. That typically comes about with being a regular john who's patient, communicative, empathetic, and be as accommodating as possible within budgetary limits. Most women appreciate upfront honesty and usually won't hold it against you for having limitations yourself (I say usually because we all know there are some bat shit crazy ones out there, haha)! It really depends on the situation, but if a SB doesn't broach the subject of PPM, my thought process is to not mention it unless they do. Again, that's just me.

[Rudy Wellz]

Took a long hiatus away from these forums & Seeking. Figured I'd pass along what I've experienced since last Fall.

Really great intel and thank you for sharing with the board. You clearly have "the game" to close the deal and get BCD's. I do however question not providing some type of financial gift even though it was not discussed up front. Pay to play is the entire premise of an arrangement. I've had this happen a few times where we smash prior to discussing the PPM and always provide something. I actually like this scenario because I get to set the rate as opposed to having to negotiate.

[ShortMan22]

Anything on this one?

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...6-f930b4f8a334

[ShortMan22]

Here are a few reviews.

This one we chatted on SA for a while, it seemed promising, however she has not texted me even though we we exchanged numbers. She hasn't replied to my text.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...6-4ae21c60fdfd

Similar story with this one. She only wants to chat on SA.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...6-044983e29d5c

This one never replied to my message on SA.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...0-3e3f7b9a8a85

This one only shared her private pics but never responded to my message on SA.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...6-7a6498ce893c

Any details on this one? I've sent her a few messages but no response, I can see that the message have been read by no response.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...7-17e4e0cda82f

Any details on this one?

https://members.seeking.com/messages...7-cb4c4bed1a14

[Shinshi]

You are going to have to help me out here. I am not a veteran so perhaps my game is off or just have not been lucky. I have yet to find one from this site or game that does not discuss PPM if we want to take this to the full session, whether it is via the initial chats or when we first meet. What are you doing to get laid for free from these chicks? To be honest, I feel like most of the girls if not all of them in the game are basically a form of pseudo escorts. The only difference is just getting more personal texts with some nice pictures and spending longer time in the bedroom than with an escort, and perhaps a meal here or there. I am decent looking middle aged guy, so I know it's not my looks that would put any of them off. I have gotten many discounts from some of them, based on the amounts discussed here for that specific girl, but never a free session.

There's a few factors one has to consider in regards to Seeking these days. For starters, it's nowhere near as easy to score a reliable, quality SB as it once was pre-COVID. Secondly, most are indeed escort-lite. By this, I mean most "sugar" on the side to supplement their income / spending money which they get from their real-world jobs. Are there some full-fledged hookers that utilize Seeking? Absolutely, and those are relatively easy to weed out the more you converse & get experience with the game (see my review on Amaia Star, which I admittedly thought with my little head instead). They're supposed to be amateurs who are just dipping their toes into sex work. And finally, it's possible to meet a SB that either wants to be FWB & forgoes payment altogether. It's just extremely difficult to find such unicorns.

For this latter category, I'll be straight up--it's almost always luck. I'm okay in the looks department (definitely no Brad Pitt), firmly in the financial middle class, and have no real talking game to speak of. My biggest strength is probably patience. I talk and listen for extended periods of time, and some women appreciate that a lot. If they wish to converse about their personal lives (family, career goals, what drove them to Seeking, etc) so as to feel more comfortable about the whole situation, I'm all for it. They scratch my back, I scratch theirs. And if a SB doesn't mention compensation, I tend to not bring it up unless they do. That being said, it's wise to have a budget in mind & not spend over what you're comfortable with.

As you pointed out, most women on Seeking are in it for money. Some will be down for sex, but a sizeable number are there for the benjamins with minimal effort and only promises of sex at a later date. Having a great time on the town, a bite to eat, some great drinks, etc are all the allure for many in this GPS-laden area. So it's up to us to determine if that's worth it with each respective woman. Some SBs aren't worth the headache, and some only want platonic arrangements. I know some guys here claim to have converted said platonic SBs into real freaks, and I don't doubt it can be done. But as I said, that's not my skillset. Play to your strengths, be yourself, refrain from sharing too much personal info on yourself, and don't ever be pressured into spending outside your hobby budget.

I can attest that about years ago I had set someone in SA that didn't discuss an PPM. We hooked up and I was able to get a freebie. For the 2nd meeting she made sure to bring up PPM amount and since she was cool I gave her a little extra for the 1st time. Current days, I'm not sure if non PPM in possible. The demand is much higher than the supply and I think that the current girls on SA are aware of that.

Agreed 100%. Seeking is just a trainwreck right now, but I keep an eye out every couple months to see the new faces. For now, I'm comfortable with the three regulars I've got in rotation. But I wouldn't object to adding to the list if anyone's got intel on the profiles listed towards the end of that post.

[JonFisher]

Took a long hiatus away from these forums & Seeking. Figured I'd pass along what I've experienced since last Fall.

PlayfulGND - (https://members.seeking.com/member/b...9-8fe2fdf3b26a).


Franchesca - (https://members.seeking.com/member/6...7-1b71956866fe).
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I has seen playfulGND few years back. She hoststed at her place. But surprised she dis not discuss allowance upfront. Hmmm.

Frenchesca. She told me her boobs are enhanced and they seemed unnatural in some of the pics she shared.

Ninahawk. Agree on many of the details. But again surprised that she did not discuss allowance.

[ShortMan22]

You are going to have to help me out here. I am not a veteran so perhaps my game is off or just have not been lucky. I have yet to find one from this site or game that does not discuss PPM if we want to take this to the full session, whether it is via the initial chats or when we first meet. What are you doing to get laid for free from these chicks? To be honest, I feel like most of the girls if not all of them in the game are basically a form of pseudo escorts. The only difference is just getting more personal texts with some nice pictures and spending longer time in the bedroom than with an escort, and perhaps a meal here or there. I am decent looking middle aged guy, so I know it's not my looks that would put any of them off. I have gotten many discounts from some of them, based on the amounts discussed here for that specific girl, but never a free session.

I can attest that about years ago I had set someone in SA that didn't discuss an PPM. We hooked up and I was able to get a freebie. For the 2nd meeting she made sure to bring up PPM amount and since she was cool I gave her a little extra for the 1st time. Current days, I'm not sure if non PPM in possible. The demand is much higher than the supply and I think that the current girls on SA are aware of that.

[AnonDemon69]

Took a long hiatus away from these forums & Seeking. Figured I'd pass along what I've experienced since last Fall.

Amaia Star - (https://members.seeking.com/member/7...1-27a69adecb75).

So many red flags that I should have heeded, but I had already booked the hotel & felt that I needed the distraction after a nightmarish month back then. She's Dominican who frequents New York yet comes to the DMV to visit family often. Definitely older pics were used on her profile, but the face was okay for someone in their late 20's. I do remember she sported a pretty nice ass. But the negatives? Arrived a couple hours late; slightly saggy hooters; insisted on a cover even for oral (which ended up being a blessing); overconcern about messing up her hair; refusal to shower after the first pop; very wooden conversation; extremely transactional / escort-like; and smelling of rotting fish down under (thank god she insisted on the cover). I resorted to angry / hard f*cking just to get my money's worth. She was supposed to stay for three hours, but I just gave her 500 & out the door after two pops in about an hour. After walking her downstairs, I saw her get into an SUV driven by the same heavily tatted dude who initially dropped her off. Something felt off about the whole scene, but I put it out of my mind & was just happy to be move on. Pretty sure she blocked me since I can't see her profile now.

ninahawk - (https://members.seeking.com/member/c...c-3831bc993ac0).

This one's been positively reviewed in the past, so I had high hopes. After a couple failed M&G attempts, our schedules finally aligned and we met over coffee. Looks exactly as pictured & seemed upfront about what she's after. Sorta spontaneously, I invited her to a nearby hotel which incidentally happened to be close to her place. She accepted and met up after swinging by her place first. The next few hours were a fantastic time. Great kisser, superb head game, quite responsive to DATY, cute nipple piercing, and really got into it while lifting her tiny frame and pounding away up against the walls. Guess there weren't any hotel guests on either side, because we weren't exactly subtle. The view from the back was jaw-dropping too. After two pops then talking about random stuff for over an hour, she called it a night and left. Not long afterwards, I got a text saying this arrangement wasn't going to work. Don't know what went wrong, but I wished her well & that was that. No PPM was ever discussed, so the only damages was the hotel room.

Kay - (https://members.seeking.com/member/f...0-0279ebd4bd5c).

Not much to write about here. For a while, we couldn't seem to make our schedules work with distance also being a factor. Eventually met over coffee, and she looks as pictured. Very sweet-natured, positive, and conversation seemed to flow naturally. She completely understands the game and was down with me getting a hotel for fun later that week. But I ultimately felt there were better-looking options. We never discussed PPM, so I couldn't tell you what she would have asked. Again, very pleasant overall & I wish her well.

annajes - (https://members.seeking.com/member/d...f-8d364bd074ec).

Really, really, really wanted to make this work. We had talked a bit prior to COVID via SnapChat and Seeking messenger, but never actually met up. I reached out again recently and she responded back. However, the huge gaps in between each reply made me realize it likely won't materialize. As another john stated, she's really wrapped up in her social media page showcasing nice cars and advertising crypto currency. Maybe one day, but on to the next.

Cutegirl - (https://members.seeking.com/member/9...2-e35c39e2920c).

Definitely got the cute girl-next-door vibes from this one, and our convo seemed to flow well. She asked some questions about Seeking and what it was all about, so I obliged & explained it pretty vividly. She said she understood and was interested in meeting for coffee. But when I messaged to confirm the day before and day of? Radio silence. Not unheard of that some of the younger, newer faces would get cold feet. I wished her well in a final message then moved on.

SeductiveGirl - (https://members.seeking.com/member/3...8-9ce1a426a056).

Took a while to get an initial response, but the convo took off eventually. Really liked the pictures she shared, and my interest was piqued seeing how I had never been with an Indian woman before. Unfortunately, plans to meet fell through after I got sick and then had to leave town for a month. Then when I got back, she was out of town and then took down her page one day. It's back up now, so I might try again sometime. Could've sworn someone in this forum had mentioned she was / is a pro? But I couldn't find anything about her on this forum, so maybe she went under a different alias or set up a newer profile. Seeking did alter their link url address setup either last spring or summer. If any of you have information, please let me know here or PM.

PlayfulGND - (https://members.seeking.com/member/b...9-8fe2fdf3b26a).

Another positively reviewed gem that I wished had worked out in the long run. Took a while to meet owing to both our schedules & the distance. However, we eventually met over coffee and hit it off. Definitely understands the Seeking game & appeared to be okay with an NSA arrangement. We made plans to meet the week after, so I booked a hotel in Leesburg as it was more conveniently located for her. Ended up having a light dinner before taking her back to the hotel where we talked much longer than I had anticipated (maybe two hours). To be fair, that might've been my nerves as she's very well-spoken, funny, witty, and jaw-droppingly gorgeous. Eventually, we got right down to business. I could go on and on about her body, soft kisses, fantastic oral skills, sensual moans, hip movements--everything was perfect. Not sure how I lasted as long as I did, though covers usually make it easier to hold ones load in (at least for me anyway). After we cleaned up, I drove her back to her place. Like with ninahawk, no donation nor PPM was discussed. A couple weeks went by & I tried to set up another meet. But she replied that while she enjoyed our time very much, she needed something more consistent & closer by. Extremely disappointed, but I wished her the very best.

Franchesca - (https://members.seeking.com/member/6...7-1b71956866fe).

I see others have reviewed this one too. Definitely real & looks exactly as pictured. Holy god, easily one of the best bodies I've seen in-person from Seeking! She does indeed visit DC due to IT work who sends her on business trips to here, NYC, Spain, etc. Hence why her location changes often. I'm not getting the sense that she's a pro--more like an UTR who does this part-time to have extra spending money during her travels. She does understand the nature of Seeking, and readily offers her number & prefers to host out of her hotel. Initially quoted me 600 for two hours, but I got her down to 500 (and stayed for well over three hours). Her English is decent, and though some might be put off by her somewhat deeper voice, I didn't mind in the slightest. Small talk lasted for maybe five minutes before we were peeling our clothes off one another. She sported very nice red lingerie, subtle perfume, and made me feel like a god while DATY. I was more than happy to make her lose control even after she nearly squeezed my head off with those perfect thighs, haha! I don't think I received oral from her once that night despite going at it for three rounds (still not sure how I managed), but it was no problem. We went at it like rabbits in bed, standing up in front of a mirror, on the couch, lifted up & pinned to the wall, etc. Great kisser who looks just as fantastic when on top as she is from the back. Hands down the highlight of 2023 for me! Afterwards, we went out to dinner before we shared another passionate kiss and called it a night. She's reached out a couple times asking for a repeat performance, but I was unfortunately out of town. Looking forward to her next visit though.

That's all I've got. Also, the following users below are either ones I reached out to & got no response, or ones who reached out to me during my hiatus & dropped off after I returned to Seeking. Any information would be appreciated. Cheers!

Mnemosyne - (https://members.seeking.com/member/b...1-d1d4c33b2e61).

Seducedbysmarts - (https://members.seeking.com/member/a...1-de2cff7c340a).

Missbee33 - (https://members.seeking.com/member/b...0-a69c23cf1521).

Livingyoung - (https://members.seeking.com/member/0...d-9872fc8cd153).

Scarlet - (https://members.seeking.com/member/3...a-85e38f25bf1d).

Oliveyou - (https://members.seeking.com/member/8...5-eba874ad7d6f).

You are going to have to help me out here. I am not a veteran so perhaps my game is off or just have not been lucky. I have yet to find one from this site or game that does not discuss PPM if we want to take this to the full session, whether it is via the initial chats or when we first meet. What are you doing to get laid for free from these chicks? To be honest, I feel like most of the girls if not all of them in the game are basically a form of pseudo escorts. The only difference is just getting more personal texts with some nice pictures and spending longer time in the bedroom than with an escort, and perhaps a meal here or there. I am decent looking middle aged guy, so I know it's not my looks that would put any of them off. I have gotten many discounts from some of them, based on the amounts discussed here for that specific girl, but never a free session.