NoVA SugarBabies

[Squatty2]

Also the higher possibility of BBFS and / or in some cases they stop asking for money. Either are very unlikely to happen with pros.

BBFS is offered a LOT more commonly than you think especially if you become a "regular" (at least it has been offered to me, especially after they find out that I'm snipped). But freebies are indeed extremely rare (never gotten that offer).

[Tophat31]

A wealthy SD took a SB off my roster and moved her to Florida. She's living an incredible 1st class lifestyle. Fortunately, she travels back to DC to visit family about every other month or so and stays at 5-star hotels (Ritz, Waldorf, etc). Last night I spent 3 hours in her suite, was balls deep in her and will go back this AM before she meets her sister for breakfast. Still pay her $400 PPM and took her out for a nice dinner, but no lodging or transportation costs when she visits. And the morning romps are always included in the previous nights PPM. This is why arrangements are "worth it".

Agree. It's so worth it and I have a million stories like that. It's just harder nowadays. 5 years ago it was almost too much now its difficult to find a young amateur sb for less than 500.

[Rudy Wellz]

You can go with a low to mid-level escort, and pay 120 for a quickie in her shitty apartment or hotel room that's saturated with the funk of the other six guys who hit it that day, or..

Pay a higher end agency girl or independent contractor 5-700 per hour to lie to you about how good you are while she watches the clock, or..

Put in a little effort and get a sb (who actually laid eyes on you and chose you somewhat) and have 2-4 hr romps and sometimes overnights and freebies with all the trimmings for 3-400 (maybe 5). And yeah, in the best cases, freebies, fwb situations or steep situational discounts come into play if it's ongoing.

Just depends on what version of the lie you prefer.

To each their own.

A wealthy SD took a SB off my roster and moved her to Florida. She's living an incredible 1st class lifestyle. Fortunately, she travels back to DC to visit family about every other month or so and stays at 5-star hotels (Ritz, Waldorf, etc). Last night I spent 3 hours in her suite, was balls deep in her and will go back this AM before she meets her sister for breakfast. Still pay her $400 PPM and took her out for a nice dinner, but no lodging or transportation costs when she visits. And the morning romps are always included in the previous nights PPM. This is why arrangements are "worth it".

[Dimples572]

She's back at it with this profile -.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...7-3b1945301f51

I ALMOST met up with her like 3 weeks ago but forever reason things didn't align for us. But I'd completely forgotten about your previous post. Glad I didn't meet her after all. Thanks for the heads up.

[CuriousVaMan]

She's back at it with this profile -.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...7-3b1945301f51

Tori She's baaaaack!

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...5-1bcb1b8af280

She's had several profiles over the last 6 or so months. Xoxostarz is her current profile handle. She's operating out of Gainesville, VA and she's aware of this board.

This time, she got the best of me. Successfully ran a Cash and Dash on me, even though I've been balls deep in her before. You'd think she'd want to treat a "regular" SD well, but I guess she's doesn't think long term. Oh well her loss. I fucked up by becoming too comfortable. Anyhow, stay away from her she's good at extracting the gift before delivering the goods.

As she will undoubtedly create a new profile, attached are her pics used on the current and various previous profiles. While very pretty, most pics were 20/30 pounds ago.

[AnonDemon69]

When you guys say 300-500 ppm, does that include hotel, transporting, etc. ? I feel like it's as low as you make it sound to be. What is the total cost to be around once you include hotel, transport, etc. ?

No. That is what the SB gets. Hotel, transport, and dining are not included. Although I only take out the SB for food / drinks during the first date or unless she asks. Some SB's drive, others just pay for their own cabs (have had a couple that want you to pay for theirs but it's only like 20 bucks). I have been lucky to have one that hosts, but only after we had been at this for a couple of months. Consider paying a dayuse hotel in the 100 range. I would say 450 to 650 range when you put it all together.

[Mambalit]

You can go with a low to mid-level escort, and pay 120 for a quickie in her shitty apartment or hotel room that's saturated with the funk of the other six guys who hit it that day, or..

Pay a higher end agency girl or independent contractor 5-700 per hour to lie to you about how good you are while she watches the clock, or..

Put in a little effort and get a sb (who actually laid eyes on you and chose you somewhat) and have 2-4 hr romps and sometimes overnights and freebies with all the trimmings for 3-400 (maybe 5). And yeah, in the best cases, freebies, fwb situations or steep situational discounts come into play if it's ongoing.

Just depends on what version of the lie you prefer.

To each their own.

When you guys say 300-500 ppm, does that include hotel, transporting, etc. ? I feel like it's as low as you make it sound to be. What is the total cost to be around once you include hotel, transport, etc. ?

[Arty33]

Also the higher possibility of BBFS and / or in some cases they stop asking for money. Either are very unlikely to happen with pros.

BBFS and CIP, then in theory no limit on time, but in practice it's usually a couple of hours. Don't know what is too much, but the only SB I am seeing now is a 18 year old college freshman, that too trying to stop because of logistics and price is one factor, but not the main reason. It is in the ball park range for the area. It's nice to pick her up from campus, drive to FC location, have a romp in the sheet with no clock watching, BB, flexible with willing to do all kind of things like a sex kitten, until I am fully done. I take breaks in between, use bathroom, wash junior, come back and make her do BBBJ standing up besides the bed while she still lay there after getting railed for 30 minutes. Then roll her over and go for more, until I finish either in her, or in her mouth, stomach, anywhere I wish. At this point she's just fine with anything since we've been together for 6-8 months.

Which pro would do this? And what you have to put up. No one I bet.

[BobDingle10]

I'm consistently amazed at how much men in here are willing to overpay for what are very average looking women. Escorts are often significantly more attractive and a guarantee.

Is it the allure of semi-exclusivity (which is likely a lie)?

You can go with a low to mid-level escort, and pay 120 for a quickie in her shitty apartment or hotel room that's saturated with the funk of the other six guys who hit it that day, or…..

Pay a higher end agency girl or “independent contractor” 5-700 per hour to lie to you about how good you are while she watches the clock, or…..

Put in a little effort and get a sb (who actually laid eyes on you and chose you somewhat) and have 2-4 hr romps and sometimes overnights and freebies with all the trimmings for 3-400 (maybe 5). And yeah, in the best cases, freebies, fwb situations or steep situational discounts come into play if it's ongoing.

Just depends on what version of the lie you prefer.

To each their own.

[ChrisCarr]

I'm consistently amazed at how much men in here are willing to overpay for what are very average looking women. Escorts are often significantly more attractive and a guarantee.

Is it the allure of semi-exclusivity (which is likely a lie)?

Also the higher possibility of BBFS and / or in some cases they stop asking for money. Either are very unlikely to happen with pros.

[ShortMan22]

I did not counter. The concern around her being bigger than her photos didn't motivate me to pursue this one that hard. She seemed like a nice girl personality wise, so didn't know why else someone would ditch her at the FC.

From looking at her social media, she's definitely gained some weight. Not worth 700 in my book.

[Squatty2]

Wow, $700 for her? I mean she's not unattractive but she's not "hot" either. The $300 range. ? Sure, I could see it as a last resort type of thing. But $700? Sheesh! She wasn't willing to consider anything less? Or did you even counter?

I'm consistently amazed at how much men in here are willing to overpay for what are very average looking women. Escorts are often significantly more attractive and a guarantee.

Is it the allure of semi-exclusivity (which is likely a lie)?

[Dimples572]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...1-a3bd185f572b

Real and DTF. Had a M&G with her. She seemed nice enough and generally looked like her photos, though she was wearing a jacket and to me, seemed a bit larger than her photos. However, ultimately she wanted 7, which was a no for me. She also told me about meeting a guy at a hotel and him making an excuse to go to his car and never coming back, so that wasn't a good sign.

Wow, $700 for her? I mean she's not unattractive but she's not "hot" either. The $300 range. ? Sure, I could see it as a last resort type of thing. But $700? Sheesh! She wasn't willing to consider anything less? Or did you even counter?

[Tophat31]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...1-a3bd185f572b

Real and DTF. Had a M&G with her. She seemed nice enough and generally looked like her photos, though she was wearing a jacket and to me, seemed a bit larger than her photos. However, ultimately she wanted 7, which was a no for me. She also told me about meeting a guy at a hotel and him making an excuse to go to his car and never coming back, so that wasn't a good sign.

Wanted 7 but over text said she was willing to do 4. She has weird availability times so stopped talking.

[Mandane]

She looks a little different than her old face photo. She also listed herself as Middle Eastern before, wonder what the truth is.

She's Nepalese and Jewish if I remember correctly. Definitely has straddling the line between the two. I wouldn't put any stock into it. If you hadn't seen the old listing it probably wouldn't even cross your mind if you met her. She probably just did it to not get pigeon holed as ethnic.