Strip Club Reports

[Formula814]

Went to LS Saturday night. Not too busy. Quickly took Macy back to the VIP for CBJ for $$. Was hoping to take Stacey back. Tipped her on stage but she still didn't stop by and talk to me. Anyone else have experience with Stacey? I'd love to take her to the VIP but can't seem to get her attention.

[DeadDead22]

1) "Don't be an asshole" is true in everything we do in life, so it's not necessary to say.

It is on this forum, buddy. Most of the people on this website need to have this told to them daily. Especially when it comes to working girls.

[Moneyshot]

I was going to say that the probability is that these dancers are using the language barrier to their advantage. It's not say that they are fluent in English, but you can be sure that they know the English words for their VIP activities. My conversation skills in Spanish hlare much diminished, though they must speak more slowly (hablas lentamente, por favor?) I do better with reading it. Much of the world is bilingual, and frankly America has gotten really deficient and lazy in this regard. In a global economy, foreign language skills can be a goldmine.

Oh, and if Americans make an effort to speak someone else's language, even poorly, it is appreciated.

Years ago, my rusty Spanish skills helped me when visiting the brothels on St Maarten that were full of Dominicanas and Colombianas.

Not sure if you

Guys realize how good Detroit is compared to most of the Country, maybe a few spots in Florida.

I plan on going to St Marteen -Is it worth spending a week?

Gracious.

[PipersPit]

I appreciate your contribution to the forum, although I mainly disagree.

1) "Don't be an asshole" is true in everything we do in life, so it's not necessary to say. However, I realize almost all these girls are junkies and most have a junkie pimp / dealer your money is being used to keep high. They're almost all liars as well. I'll pretend to respect them because that's the game.

2) IMHO you're totally wrong about negotiating. I don't do CBJ, but some girls won't do BBBJ. I don't have time and money to waste taking a girl to VIP who isn't going to do what I want for the price I want. Also negotiating is using up time I'm paying for in the VIP.

3) Of course you tip your waitress / bartender. But not too much or you'll be known as an easy mark who over pays.

Been in the game for years, you're correct, hes off about the negotiating and how much he pays in general. $200 is the max, most can be had for less than that. Hell, a couple years ago, $150 was the max. Your age and appearance plays into it also.

[Russant]

Yep, that's Nicole from H8 days. Took the picture from her Instagram page. She's on OF too). I haven't met her but tried. Is she working days or nights at BTs?

Did she have a green shirt on in the video? Can you give me her ig?

[Incognito1234]

I agree, a bartender can be your best asset, especially if you frequent a joint and they get to know you. Now you're there customer too & and they want you to come back.

I agree with this. For every drink brought to me, I tip $5.

[WhutsNext]

So I've gotten a few PMs asking about different dancers or recommendations for Bogies and Henry's. A couple of said requests have included some complaints about services offered or prices quoted. I've been reading these boards for a while and tried a couple of recommendations given over the years but haven't contributed much only because until recently, most of the dancers I have fun with are pretty well known. I thought I might share some things I've learned over the years that have helped me win some of these dancers over.

1. Don't be an asshole. I know this sounds stupid but I constantly hear these girls complain about guys that come in, act like an asshole, treat them like shit, and then get mad when they don't get what they want. Don't get me wrong, there are some dancers that I honestly don't talk to because they are shitty human beings, but I'm pretty nice with all of them. Hell I'm friends with a handful of them (I know, I know, strippers aren't your friends, they just want your money. But I honestly am friends with a handful of them). Basically the way it works with me, I treat them like human beings and not * / crack heads / pieces of shit. I never tell a dancer she can't sit down, I'll always have at least a little conversation, I'll even buy a drink here and there. And I always tip bartenders and waitresses. I know some of you are probably saying "why would you spend that much time and / or money on these chicks?" Well it helps because now nobody will say "oh he's cheap, don't waste your time with him" or "he's an asshole, I won't talk to him again. " This also comes in handy when it comes to price negotiations.

2. Negotiating. Some people like negotiating on the floor before going back to the VIP. I prefer to negotiate in the VIP. The reason being, if we can't come to an agreement, it only costs $20-40. But when we're already back there, a girl is more likely to come down on her price then when we're on the floor. If we are on the floor and she isn't thrilled about my offer, she can get up and try the next guy. But if we're already upstairs and half of her outfit is already off, it's easier to accept the lower price. Especially when she probably thinks it'll only take a couple songs. The way I usually try to handle it is when she inevitably asks if I want any kind of extras, I ask it depends on what costs what. When she gives me her prices, if I think they are too high I'll tell her that I don't have it to spend. She'll usually counter with "well how much do you have" and I'll pick a number that isn't too low, but is at least more comfortable for me. Keep in mind, my limit for everything (BJ + FS) is $$. I've paid less, and on a couple occasions over the years I've paid a little bit more but never more that $$5. I've had girls try and quote me as high as $$ and when it's that high I don't even counter. Why not counter you ask. Because I feel that when you low-ball them too much, they won't put in the effort to keep you coming back. They don't care if you come back for more when they can get what they want from the next guy. Also, when you low-ball some of these girls too hard you're labeled as too cheap. All of these girls talk and they will warn the other girls to stay away from the guys that don't want to spend any money. Same with the staff. When the dancers hear the waitresses and bartenders complain "that guy has been here for over an hour and has only bought one drink" or "those guys have bought like 3 rounds and only tipped me two dollars" they assume they are cheap and won't spend any money.

3. Spending. I touched on this a little bit earlier but, stop trying to make it out of the bar without spending any money. Buy drinks (I know, they're overpriced), tip the girls on stage (at least if you're interested), tip the staff more than a dollar. You have to remember, these dancers are interested in money. If you act like you don't have any, they won't be interested in you. Tipping girls on stage shows interest and these days, the girls don't hustle like they used to. Also, when you tip on stage, you're signaling that you want some attention. If not from the girl on stage, from someone. Tipping the staff can actually help out if you're trying to get a dancers attention. Now any waitress will flag down a dancer for you, especially with a little tip. But if you've been tipping the entire time you've been there, the waitress will let the dancer know you're not cheap and she'll actually be interested in taking you to the VIP.

After reading this over, I know it sounds a little preachy. Hell it almost sounds like I work for one of the clubs and I'm trying to get you guys to spend more money. But honestly this has been what's worked for me over the years. I pretty much always have options when I walk in the bar. I'm not always interested in the options that are presented to me, but they're always there.

I agree, a bartender can be your best asset, especially if you frequent a joint and they get to know you. Now you're there customer too & and they want you to come back.

[Nick6789]

I often just get water at a club, but I still tip $1 for the free drinks just for the bartender's time.

When I ask for water, they say its the same price as a beer. You get a big bottle of evian tho.

[TrollMahn]

MrB,

Thanks for your contributions, I like your post and respect your methods.

I totally agree with don't be an asshole. That is the top complaint I get from the girls is that 4 out every 5 guys are disrespectful to down right mean. They say things like I am paying so you have to do what I want. I have found some of the girls to be nice people who I would be friends with outside the club.

I do not let girls I am not interested in sit with me, as I find there is strategy that most guys have limited time, and if a girl sits with you then other girls won't approach and the girl sitting with you becomes your only option. I will also state in my opinion the most attractive girls and the best performing girls rarely walk around trying to sit with me, as they already have a steady stream of customers. If you want the best girls, tip them on stage and tell them to join you when they get free. The majority of time they are pleased to do this.

I will buy drinks for girls who I know are good performers for me. Or if I am waiting through the refractory period.

If the waitress brings you food or drinks she deserves a tip, a couple of dollars is fine. I don't think you need to tip anyone else. You can get the same good treatment from the rest of the staff just by talking to them and asking them their names. They are actually there to help you and want you to have a good time. But again just like the dancers most people treat the staff like crap.

I don't think girls feel customers are monolith. So if he is cheap to one girl that means there is opportunity to another girl. Not that he will be cheap with every girl. I know I am willing to pay more if I am really into girl say I rate her a 9. And less if I am not that into her say I rate her a 7.

I appreciate your in VIP negotiation technique but I could never do that. When a mostly naked girl is in front of me and I have a hard on she could say any number and I would agree. Basically my brain completely turns off during a lap dance. I have to negotiate everything at the table otherwise I will get taken advantage of. I suspect that is true for most guys, and you are fortunate you can still think with you brain in front of a hot nude girl.

Please keep contributing your thoughts.

MM.

I often just get water at a club, but I still tip $1 for the free drinks just for the bartender's time.

[MrBarton]

I do not let girls I am not interested in sit with me, as I find there is strategy that most guys have limited time, and if a girl sits with you then other girls won't approach and the girl sitting with you becomes your only option. I will also state in my opinion the most attractive girls and the best performing girls rarely walk around trying to sit with me, as they already have a steady stream of customers. If you want the best girls, tip them on stage and tell them to join you when they get free. The majority of time they are pleased to do this.

I will buy drinks for girls who I know are good performers for me. Or if I am waiting through the refractory period.

If the waitress brings you food or drinks she deserves a tip, a couple of dollars is fine. I don't think you need to tip anyone else. You can get the same good treatment from the rest of the staff just by talking to them and asking them their names. They are actually there to help you and want you to have a good time. But again just like the dancers most people treat the staff like crap.

I don't think girls feel customers are monolith. So if he is cheap to one girl that means there is opportunity to another girl. Not that he will be cheap with every girl. I know I am willing to pay more if I am really into girl say I rate her a 9. And less if I am not that into her say I rate her a 7.

I appreciate your in VIP negotiation technique but I could never do that. When a mostly naked girl is in front of me and I have a hard on she could say any number and I would agree. Basically my brain completely turns off during a lap dance. I have to negotiate everything at the table otherwise I will get taken advantage of. I suspect that is true for most guys, and you are fortunate you can still think with you brain in front of a hot nude girl.

Please keep contributing your thoughts.

MM.

MM,

Appreciate the reply.

I totally agree that managing your own time is important when it comes to who you sit with in the clubs. I'm my experience, most girls will sit down for maybe 5 minutes before they ask if you want a dance. I generally use "not right now, maybe later" or "I'm just relaxing right now" and they're usually on their way. At the very least, try and be polite when you shoo them away. As to your other point, definitely tip the girls you are interested in while they are on stage.

As far as buying drinks go. I usually do the same as you. I'll buy drinks for my fun girls, but I also will buy a drink for a waitress or bartender from time to time if I'm cool with them. Same with tipping. I'm not saying you should throw money all over the club. Just that a couple extra dollars here and there will take you a lot farther than you think.

When it comes to what I said about the dancers talking about customers being cheap, I was more talking about customer that try to low-ball really low. Like $ or less for everything.

I agree that my negotiation techniques are not for everyone. It's worked out for me this far but it's not foolproof. I'll admit that I've been burned by this technique before but more because it ended up being kind of lame and not because I got hustled.

[Pussylicker2]

I appreciate your contribution to the forum, although I mainly disagree.

1) "Don't be an asshole" is true in everything we do in life, so it's not necessary to say. However, I realize almost all these girls are junkies and most have a junkie pimp / dealer your money is being used to keep high. They're almost all liars as well. I'll pretend to respect them because that's the game.

2) IMHO you're totally wrong about negotiating. I don't do CBJ, but some girls won't do BBBJ. I don't have time and money to waste taking a girl to VIP who isn't going to do what I want for the price I want. Also negotiating is using up time I'm paying for in the VIP.

3) Of course you tip your waitress / bartender. But not too much or you'll be known as an easy mark who over pays.

So I've gotten a few PMs asking about different dancers or recommendations for Bogies and Henry's. A couple of said requests have included some complaints about services offered or prices quoted. I've been reading these boards for a while and tried a couple of recommendations given over the years but haven't contributed much only because until recently, most of the dancers I have fun with are pretty well known. I thought I might share some things I've learned over the years that have helped me win some of these dancers over.

1. Don't be an asshole. I know this sounds stupid but I constantly hear these girls complain about guys that come in, act like an asshole, treat them like shit, and then get mad when they don't get what they want. Don't get me wrong, there are some dancers that I honestly don't talk to because they are shitty human beings, but I'm pretty nice with all of them. Hell I'm friends with a handful of them (I know, I know, strippers aren't your friends, they just want your money. But I honestly am friends with a handful of them). Basically the way it works with me, I treat them like human beings and not * / crack heads / pieces of shit. I never tell a dancer she can't sit down, I'll always have at least a little conversation, I'll even buy a drink here and there. And I always tip bartenders and waitresses. I know some of you are probably saying "why would you spend that much time and / or money on these chicks?" Well it helps because now nobody will say "oh he's cheap, don't waste your time with him" or "he's an asshole, I won't talk to him again. " This also comes in handy when it comes to price negotiations...

[Marelobo Mex]

1. Don't be an asshole.

2. Negotiating.

3. Spending.

MrB,

Thanks for your contributions, I like your post and respect your methods.

I totally agree with don't be an asshole. That is the top complaint I get from the girls is that 4 out every 5 guys are disrespectful to down right mean. They say things like I am paying so you have to do what I want. I have found some of the girls to be nice people who I would be friends with outside the club.

I do not let girls I am not interested in sit with me, as I find there is strategy that most guys have limited time, and if a girl sits with you then other girls won't approach and the girl sitting with you becomes your only option. I will also state in my opinion the most attractive girls and the best performing girls rarely walk around trying to sit with me, as they already have a steady stream of customers. If you want the best girls, tip them on stage and tell them to join you when they get free. The majority of time they are pleased to do this.

I will buy drinks for girls who I know are good performers for me. Or if I am waiting through the refractory period.

If the waitress brings you food or drinks she deserves a tip, a couple of dollars is fine. I don't think you need to tip anyone else. You can get the same good treatment from the rest of the staff just by talking to them and asking them their names. They are actually there to help you and want you to have a good time. But again just like the dancers most people treat the staff like crap.

I don't think girls feel customers are monolith. So if he is cheap to one girl that means there is opportunity to another girl. Not that he will be cheap with every girl. I know I am willing to pay more if I am really into girl say I rate her a 9. And less if I am not that into her say I rate her a 7.

I appreciate your in VIP negotiation technique but I could never do that. When a mostly naked girl is in front of me and I have a hard on she could say any number and I would agree. Basically my brain completely turns off during a lap dance. I have to negotiate everything at the table otherwise I will get taken advantage of. I suspect that is true for most guys, and you are fortunate you can still think with you brain in front of a hot nude girl.

Please keep contributing your thoughts.

MM.

[Chimil Detin]

...

Tip of the cap to you, sir. You play the game the way it's supposed to be played. We need more like you.

[SmegBoy]

This took a lot longer to write that I thought it would. In my last visit back in November, I started with Crickets, sat there for a while to check the talents, nothing interested me until Sandra showed up, a tall Croatian with an average face and nice body. She sat down and we chit chat little bit, after that we agreed on BBBJ for 140, a solid performance as have been reported here multiple times, I knew she went back to Croatia, anyone knows when she will be back??

She told me she was going home for 3 months, that was late November early December.

[MrBarton]

So I've gotten a few PMs asking about different dancers or recommendations for Bogies and Henry's. A couple of said requests have included some complaints about services offered or prices quoted. I've been reading these boards for a while and tried a couple of recommendations given over the years but haven't contributed much only because until recently, most of the dancers I have fun with are pretty well known. I thought I might share some things I've learned over the years that have helped me win some of these dancers over.

1. Don't be an asshole. I know this sounds stupid but I constantly hear these girls complain about guys that come in, act like an asshole, treat them like shit, and then get mad when they don't get what they want. Don't get me wrong, there are some dancers that I honestly don't talk to because they are shitty human beings, but I'm pretty nice with all of them. Hell I'm friends with a handful of them (I know, I know, strippers aren't your friends, they just want your money. But I honestly am friends with a handful of them). Basically the way it works with me, I treat them like human beings and not * / crack heads / pieces of shit. I never tell a dancer she can't sit down, I'll always have at least a little conversation, I'll even buy a drink here and there. And I always tip bartenders and waitresses. I know some of you are probably saying "why would you spend that much time and / or money on these chicks?" Well it helps because now nobody will say "oh he's cheap, don't waste your time with him" or "he's an asshole, I won't talk to him again. " This also comes in handy when it comes to price negotiations.

2. Negotiating. Some people like negotiating on the floor before going back to the VIP. I prefer to negotiate in the VIP. The reason being, if we can't come to an agreement, it only costs $20-40. But when we're already back there, a girl is more likely to come down on her price then when we're on the floor. If we are on the floor and she isn't thrilled about my offer, she can get up and try the next guy. But if we're already upstairs and half of her outfit is already off, it's easier to accept the lower price. Especially when she probably thinks it'll only take a couple songs. The way I usually try to handle it is when she inevitably asks if I want any kind of extras, I ask it depends on what costs what. When she gives me her prices, if I think they are too high I'll tell her that I don't have it to spend. She'll usually counter with "well how much do you have" and I'll pick a number that isn't too low, but is at least more comfortable for me. Keep in mind, my limit for everything (BJ + FS) is $$. I've paid less, and on a couple occasions over the years I've paid a little bit more but never more that $$5. I've had girls try and quote me as high as $$ and when it's that high I don't even counter. Why not counter you ask. Because I feel that when you low-ball them too much, they won't put in the effort to keep you coming back. They don't care if you come back for more when they can get what they want from the next guy. Also, when you low-ball some of these girls too hard you're labeled as too cheap. All of these girls talk and they will warn the other girls to stay away from the guys that don't want to spend any money. Same with the staff. When the dancers hear the waitresses and bartenders complain "that guy has been here for over an hour and has only bought one drink" or "those guys have bought like 3 rounds and only tipped me two dollars" they assume they are cheap and won't spend any money.

3. Spending. I touched on this a little bit earlier but, stop trying to make it out of the bar without spending any money. Buy drinks (I know, they're overpriced), tip the girls on stage (at least if you're interested), tip the staff more than a dollar. You have to remember, these dancers are interested in money. If you act like you don't have any, they won't be interested in you. Tipping girls on stage shows interest and these days, the girls don't hustle like they used to. Also, when you tip on stage, you're signaling that you want some attention. If not from the girl on stage, from someone. Tipping the staff can actually help out if you're trying to get a dancers attention. Now any waitress will flag down a dancer for you, especially with a little tip. But if you've been tipping the entire time you've been there, the waitress will let the dancer know you're not cheap and she'll actually be interested in taking you to the VIP.

After reading this over, I know it sounds a little preachy. Hell it almost sounds like I work for one of the clubs and I'm trying to get you guys to spend more money. But honestly this has been what's worked for me over the years. I pretty much always have options when I walk in the bar. I'm not always interested in the options that are presented to me, but they're always there.