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  1. #17767

    No they are different places

    Quote Originally Posted by PinheadLarry  [View Original Post]
    Flight Club is open today, New Year's Day, at 7 pm.

    Question: is Trumpp's & BT's the same place?

    When I search for bt's on social media, I can't seem to find anything recent & the trumpps page pops up.

    Also on the trumpp's social media page they sometimes advertise BT's.

    However google maps shows two different clubs.
    Those are two different places, BT's is on MI Ave in Dearborn, Trumpp's on 8 Mile in Detroit.

    If you Google BT's Dearborn, the 1st link is their homepage and 2nd their Instagram, at btsgentlemensclub.

    Same if you Google Trumpp's Detroit. Gram at trumpps. Detroit.

  2. #17766

    2023 Year summary

    I worked in Detroit 34 nights in 2023. I spent time with 21 girls and walked into the VIP 70 distinct times. Eight nights did 1 VIP, Twenty nights I did 2 VIPs, Four nights I did 3 VIPs, and Two nights I did 4 VIPs.

    I made 25 visits to BTs, 14 visits to Criket, 1 visit to Henry the 8th, 1 visit to Bogarts.

    12 of the girls I only did 1 session, 9 of the girls I engaged in repeat sessions. The highest number of repeats was 16 and the lowest was 1. When I found those rare gems that pleased me (I am picky), I tended to go back and see her multiple times.

    I need to be attracted to both a girl's looks and attitude to take her to the VIP. My preference is for young thin fit spinners, with small firm perky natural tits, firm flat stomach, and minimal or no tattoos, piercings and make up. I watch the girls dance on stage, and I will tip $1 to a girl I find attractive and invite her sit and talk to me. While we are talking, I assess her attitude. I expect her to pay attention to me and not her cell phone. If we have good natural chemistry, she is friendly, in a good mood, and shares some information about herself, then I will agree to negotiate a VIP session.

    During the 34 nights I was in Detroit, I observed and tipped 32 girls that I found attractive enough to take to the VIP that I did not. The vast majority is because the girls did not come over to talk to me. The remainder came and talked with me, and based on our conversation I decided not to go to the VIP with them.

    Looks are subjective and standards of beauty are different for each boy. There are plenty of older, curvier, heavier, big breasted girls, heavily tattooed, pierced and girls wearing significant amounts of make up for those boys who find that attractive.


    4 girls provided outstanding VIPs, I am willing to follow these girls from club to club when they change clubs, As always YMMV, but I suggest others are likely to enjoy these girls.

    - Skye at Criket / BTs / Legends / Lust.

    - Alana at BTs / Bogarts / Flight Club.

    - Ariel at BTs.

    - Rose at BTs.


    10 girls provided good VIPs and I would be willing to repeat with them when I encounter them in the club but wouldn't chase them from club to club. As always YMMV.

    - Kenzie at BTs.

    - Babylon at BTs / Criket.

    - Arabella at BTs / Flight Club note recently got silicone implants.

    - Naomi at BTs.

    - Star at BTs.

    - Julia at BTs.

    - Nae at Criket.

    - Diva at Criket.

    - Kee at BTs.

    - Maisey at BTs.


    3 girls had bad sessions and had to walk out, I suggest other be careful.

    - Chocolate at Criket Told me session was over early, so I left, I know others had good sessions with her.

    - Mia at BTs Each song that elapsed she counted 2 songs, and tried to charge $30 instead of $25, I had to get the attendant involved.

    - CeeCee at Criket / BTs When the first song ended, she claimed it was the end of song 3, I had to get the attendant involved.


    4 girls provided just one dance. While the economics of this are poor, I find there are several reasons to do it.

    1. A girl is new and wants to build chemistry with you before offering longer sessions.

    2. You cannot agree on pricing for activities but would still like to spend some time with her.

    3. I have already been drained and am only capable of enjoying a dance.

    4. I have a preferred girl I want to go with, but might like to sample this girl on another night.

    - Amonda at Criket (Scenario 4, and she tried hard to get me to skip my regular girl).

    - Pixie at Criket (Scenario 3).

    - Sunshine at BTs (Scenario 2).

    - Vivian at BTs (Scenario 2).

    I am open to enjoying any of these girls in the future.

    Inflation persisted during this year, and that meant more girls dancing and less guys who can afford to be customers. But for those guys with monger money, it is new time of plenty. The fattening continues with many nights the clubs are filled with girls too fat / large / curvy / heavy. The trend for fake tits, fake butts, voluminous tattoos & piercings, too much make up, ridiculously large false eyelashes and terribly long finger nails all continue and reduce the number of girls I find attractive and available. Several nights there were only 1 or 2 girls in the club that I found attractive. This is the first year in three years I didn't have a night I had to walk out without doing any VIPs, I was always able to change clubs and find at least one girl to my liking.

    Many fewer girls seem to be doing * and Seeking Arrangements since there is money in the strip club.

    I have never had paying in advance work out well. I do think it is fair to show the girl your money so she is not being cheated, but then it goes back in my pocket until I am happy. These girls who insist on paying in advance are helping you avoid bad sessions with them, they will at best be mechanical, and at worst grab your money and walk out leaving you unhappy.

    Negotiations: I always request no song count and to go to the VIP after she finishes her stage set. Prices went up this year and I attempted to hold the line at $200 and was largely successful. However, this meant I passed on some girls I was interested in, and a couple times I made exceptions. Regardless of negotiated price I offer each girl a $20 - $40 tip if they exceeded my expectations and succeed in making me happy. My expectations are extremely high and it is difficult for the girls to exceed them but there were 24 times out of the 70 sessions I was so happy the girls earned my tip. Also, for girls who I repeated with and enjoyed their company, if they would sit with me in the main room, I would buy them drinks or food. And I might tip for a fantasy or for photos. My total spend on the girl could be $250 or higher if I bought her a drink and she earned a tip. Next year I likely have to make more exceptions to keep seeing the best girls.

    I hope to enjoy my favorite girls as well as sample new girls in the new year. See you in the club.

    MM.

  3. #17765
    Quote Originally Posted by DrCumReturns  [View Original Post]
    I'm hoping to make it out east for some club time in the next few weeks. Has anyone seen Sabrina at the Criket lately? Any idea when the best time to run into her? The two times I have have both been at different clubs and different shifts.
    DCR,

    She was there on Monday December 18, but that could have been needing Christmas money. She was on Dayshift and left when nigh shift started.

    MM.

  4. #17764
    Flight Club is open today, New Year's Day, at 7 pm.

    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    I wonder if the clubs are open day shift today? New years day.
    Question: is Trumpp's & BT's the same place?

    When I search for bt's on social media, I can't seem to find anything recent & the trumpps page pops up.

    Also on the trumpp's social media page they sometimes advertise BT's.

    However google maps shows two different clubs.

  5. #17763
    I wonder if the clubs are open day shift today? New years day.

  6. #17762
    Quote Originally Posted by WinterKnight  [View Original Post]
    Adding to the list, I enjoyed watching a couple of amazing pole dancers at Criket just last week. Both were AA girls, and their athleticism surprised me.
    Thanks! I like the Cricket. Good vibes and friendly staff. Do you recall the day, shift, or names for the performers?

  7. #17761

    Re: Pole dancing

    Quote Originally Posted by Significant05  [View Original Post]
    Hello, all. Who would you say (club, shift, etc) has the best stage shows and main room fun? I enjoy the athleticism and dance of someone who really knows how to work the stage and pole, as well as just a fun vibe in the main room. While fun, backroom activities less important in this case. Could even be a wild burlesque show. Thanks in advance.
    Adding to the list, I enjoyed watching a couple of amazing pole dancers at Criket just last week. Both were AA girls, and their athleticism surprised me.

  8. #17760

    Re: Gum job

    Quote Originally Posted by RayRaynor  [View Original Post]
    Have any of you gotten a BJ from a stripper who was just working with her gums? I have heard it is a special experience and I know of one who is missing her bottoms right now. So, just looking for some knowledge.
    Idk whether it was a special experience, but I have received a BBBJ from an escort who removed her dentures prior, and yes, it was different. That was an older lady reviewed here several times pre-pandemic. Name was Chrissie. Sorry, no, I do not know any strippers who offer this, and no, I do not have her number anymore.

  9. #17759
    Quote Originally Posted by MareloboMex  [View Original Post]
    ... I hope you find what you are looking for. MM.
    Great Intel! Thanks! Looks like there are quite a few amazing choices to explore. I truly appreciate it. 2024 looks like it could be a great year. Cheers!

  10. #17758
    Quote Originally Posted by RayRaynor  [View Original Post]
    I've retired from going to clubs but I think the days of impressive pole dancers are long gone. You'd only see really good dancers in clubs where they have poles that spin. BTs will spin so dancers can do spin tricks but they don't at Criket. The girls are so big there they couldn't climb a pole regardless. I recall Fancy and Deena doing a two girl spin on the same pole that was impressive. Both are retired. I'd suggest higher end clubs night shift where the girls are better and thinner and more able to work a pole.
    RR,

    Criket upgraded their poles in 2023, and both now spin. There are many dancers there who can not climb the pole but there are many who can.

    I believe Fancy was still dancing at Landing Strip earlier in the year.

    I saw two girl in BTs in 2022 Anna and Aurora used to spin on the pole at the same time. Aurora has since quit dancing and Anna has gotten really fat. Ask a girl if she can spin with another girl and she will probably find a way to for a tip.

    S05,

    If you are looking for pole work, you can try Dreamgirls as they have three poles that are 2 stories high inside the club. Girls often climb them and ring a bell on the ceiling. I have see numerous girls doing complicated pole tricks.

    You should also find a girl you like, or a waitress and talk to her and ask who can do good pole tricks. Many dancers will go on stage 5 to 7 times during a night and they don't do pole tricks as they are saving their energy, and they like to be tipped for pole work. It is not worth it to get tired and get their muscles punked out early in the evening and then not be able to do pole tricks for customers who will make it rain on them. If you talk to a dancer and tell her you want to see pole tricks and will tip her if you are impressed with her pole tricks, many dancers can do them.

    Here are some girls I have observed in 2023 doing pole tricks. Finding an individual girl can be challenging as they move clubs, but almost all clubs should have girls with pole trick skills.

    Arabella at Flight Club and BTs. She can climb the pole invert and walk on the ceiling. She also descends the pole with her back to stage and her legs in the air inverted and crunches her stomach muscles simulating she is with an imaginary lover. She drops from high up and catches herself before hitting her head on the stage.

    Ariel at BTs. She is from out of town but she was in Detroit 4 times this year. She can also climb the pole invert and walk on the ceiling.

    Skye at Criket, BTs, Legends and Lust, she has an abundance of pole tricks, I was in Criket one night and a trio was tipping her and she broke out an amazing array of pole tricks I had not seen before.

    Ivy / Jade at BTs, she does a pole trick where she grabs the pole with her leg, and then sits up in the Indian style position and spins around like that, I thought it was very cool trick.

    Dancing Raven at Legends is a pole dance instructor and was in a couple of music videos doing pole tricks.

    I hope you find what you are looking for.

    MM.

  11. #17757
    Quote Originally Posted by RayRaynor  [View Original Post]
    Have any of you gotten a BJ from a stripper who was just working with her gums? I have heard it is a special experience and I know of one who is missing her bottoms right now. So, just looking for some knowledge.
    Toothless blowies are the best!

  12. #17756
    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson  [View Original Post]
    If you're open to clubs where extras aren't so openly offered, Legends has a plethora of girls who can dance. Two are former competitors in pole dancing competitions. There are a few at Players, including Lucy, who is probably the most flexible dancer I've ever met. Coliseum had a few (working there from Legends) and a resident dancer who goes by Ana (Anna? However, she was outed as a ROB on TUSCL. Truth might have some pole girls. Dream Girls is another spot that I know has some pole girls.
    Thanks! Sometimes I just like a good show so the extras take a backseat in those situations. Good to know there are a few more places\ladies to check in the area. I haven't explored Detroit proper yet. Are those you mentioned usually night shift?

  13. #17755
    Quote Originally Posted by Significant05  [View Original Post]
    Hello, all. Who would you say (club, shift, etc) has the best stage shows and main room fun? I enjoy the athleticism and dance of someone who really knows how to work the stage and pole, as well as just a fun vibe in the main room. While fun, backroom activities less important in this case. Could even be a wild burlesque show. Thanks in advance.
    If you're open to clubs where extras aren't so openly offered, Legends has a plethora of girls who can dance. Two are former competitors in pole dancing competitions. There are a few at Players, including Lucy, who is probably the most flexible dancer I've ever met. Coliseum had a few (working there from Legends) and a resident dancer who goes by Ana (Anna? However, she was outed as a ROB on TUSCL. Truth might have some pole girls. Dream Girls is another spot that I know has some pole girls.

  14. #17754
    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfClubs  [View Original Post]
    The Flight Club is not just one of the top ten clubs in all of America because of the VIP room fun, it is up there and deservedly so because of just about everything including the stage shows, the dayshift ladies can and do perform great shows on the pole! And during the later evening weekends you will have five poles going at once, the place is outstanding in every respect except for one. The type of music / DJ plays has turned extremely ghetto and is coming close to ruining the atmosphere, they no longer play toe tapping dance music anymore, they have turned more to heavy rap, I don't know what clientele they are attempting to draw with the current DJ's but the music is not good.
    Thanks! Bittersweet to read this. Great to hear there's a top tier experience close by, but also a bummer to hear about the music. Music plays such a big role in these experiences for me and can really take away from the performance if it doesn't fit. I think I'll need to conduct some research soon at FC day shift.

    Also spotted a Polesque event in Lansing coming up. Same with one in Ferndale at the end of January. Straight performance shows without the extracurricular activities, but could be fun. Thanks for the info!

  15. #17753
    Quote Originally Posted by Significant05  [View Original Post]
    Hello, all. Who would you say (club, shift, etc) has the best stage shows and main room fun? I enjoy the athleticism and dance of someone who really knows how to work the stage and pole, as well as just a fun vibe in the main room. While fun, backroom activities less important in this case. Could even be a wild burlesque show. Thanks in advance.
    The Flight Club is not just one of the top ten clubs in all of America because of the VIP room fun, it is up there and deservedly so because of just about everything including the stage shows, the dayshift ladies can and do perform great shows on the pole! And during the later evening weekends you will have five poles going at once, the place is outstanding in every respect except for one. The type of music / DJ plays has turned extremely ghetto and is coming close to ruining the atmosphere, they no longer play toe tapping dance music anymore, they have turned more to heavy rap, I don't know what clientele they are attempting to draw with the current DJ's but the music is not good.

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