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**FarFarAway** · 12-29-23 00:03

Originally Posted by NitroHX [View Original Post]

You seem to have great negotiating methods or have other things working for you. I'm a very normal looking dude who doesn't like to waste time. I see a girl and I have a price in mind. I used to freely toss out 500-600 and that got me 80% of my picks. This allowed me to see 2-3 new girls per week with 1-2 main weekly girls.

Just for curiosity today, I scanned the local talent on tryst. I am not really interested in the escort experience, but I wondered about the lay of the land. There are some women there who are the quality (appearance at least) of my best SBs, but they were wanting 8, 9, or more for a date. So, heck, if you are getting a quality person who you might see again at that price point, it seems like a good deal.

It is a lot less work to go to an escort, w / a corresponding convenience fee. I would also be worried about my OpSec since I have an SO. Some of the girls were wanting real names, photos, etc. I get their concern, but.

**FarFarAway** · 12-28-23 23:59

Originally Posted by NitroHX [View Original Post]

I am aware of whatsyourprice. The caliber of girls doesn't seem as great. Out of the 80-90 girls I've met from seeking, I've only attempted to do the dinner first thing with 4 girls with whom only one of them was dinner plus payment. All four of these girls were 8,9's and all four became longish term (at least 4 months).

I'm in SF right now and about to have drinks (no payment) with a 7.I'm pretty sure I can get her in my hotel afterwards. BTW, the caliber of girls here in SF is underwhelming compared to LA!

Yeah, I spent about 15 years up there. So, their team, it's the 49 ers, right? We used to talk about a lot of the girls being 49 ers also. DYK what that means? It's girls who are really 4's but think they are 9's.

LOL.

**Lexx1** · 12-28-23 21:22

Originally Posted by NitroHX [View Original Post]

You seem to have great negotiating methods or have other things working for you. I'm a very normal looking dude who doesn't like to waste time. I see a girl and I have a price in mind. I used to freely toss out 500-600 and that got me 80% of my picks. This allowed me to see 2-3 new girls per week with 1-2 main weekly girls.

I'm not going to say I'm a hot looking or pretty boy type of dude. I have a few extra pounds on me but I lift weights. And I consider myself handsome in a manly way, old school good looks. I still date regular civie girls. But taking them out on dates doesn't always guarantee you'll get into their panties later. Which is why I also do P4 P. You are guaranteed to get that booty and don't spend time / money wining and dining. Which surprised alot of girls when I was finding them on Craigslist. Since you didn't know what each other looked like until you exchanged pics. They would ask why are you doing this. You're good looking and I'd date you in real life. And I'd explain the same thing. That dating doesn't always guarantee desert at the end. And this is the quickest way to it. They were understanding after that.

I like to negotiate. It's a challenge to me to see how low of a price I can get you at. I also grew up knowing the value of a hard earned dollar. Which alot of the younger generation nowadays don't appreciate including these girls. Pussy should be free. These girls give it away all the time, sometimes just for dinner other times for nothing. It's not rocket science to make love. So it shouldn't be that expensive when paying for it.

**NitroHX** · 12-28-23 19:17

Originally Posted by Lexx1 [View Original Post]

Man hearing some of the numbers being thrown around here lately is loco. 400 to 1000. I make good money and could afford higher ppms. I'm not rich but could still manage them. But why? I started in this game finding non-pros on Craigslist. With some dabbling on SA back then. You could find the same quality of girls on SA back then on CL for around 100-140,200 tops for an overnight. SA was always a bit more back then too. But not the amounts being thrown around now. Straight up asking for a PPM amount is not good. I've always negotiated. And if a chic is expecting a lot more. Then I'm like bye bye. I don't give in as well to buy up. I've said it before. I don't care how hot a girl is. If it's way more than I want to spend. Then bye bye. Had that happen with a hot Persian chic that wanted to upsell right at the meetup. After we had already negotiated beforehand. I was like nope, bye. My MO is negotiating before first meet. I don't usually do meet and greets. Only if the girl wants to do one. That way everything is clear and no need to waste time and money on dinners and such. The expectation is clear and we just meet up at the hotel, ready to go.

If you're a rich dude. Then fine I guess you can throw that money around. But just asking straight out for PPM amount. Is like agreeing to a prostitutes hourly amount. Which is not what a sugarbaby is normally meant to be. A non-pro. Doing this is what has driven up the price for a sugarbaby. I will keep negotiating.

You seem to have great negotiating methods or have other things working for you. I'm a very normal looking dude who doesn't like to waste time. I see a girl and I have a price in mind. I used to freely toss out 500-600 and that got me 80% of my picks. This allowed me to see 2-3 new girls per week with 1-2 main weekly girls.

**NitroHX** · 12-28-23 19:09

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

YK, seeking has a companion website, whatsyourprice, where you are negotiating w / a girl for just the public date portion. I was recently invited by seeking to transfer my profile over to that site, they were going to give me 50 free credits to message girls. However, as I have a SO, I can't really do too much regular dating, so I haven't seriously considered this.

If anyone wants to TOFTT by getting a WYP membership, I would be interested to know about it. Of course it is possible that once you have had that initial date w / them, it could turn into something more, civvy or sugar.

I am aware of whatsyourprice. The caliber of girls doesn't seem as great. Out of the 80-90 girls I've met from seeking, I've only attempted to do the dinner first thing with 4 girls with whom only one of them was dinner plus payment. All four of these girls were 8,9's and all four became longish term (at least 4 months).

I'm in SF right now and about to have drinks (no payment) with a 7.I'm pretty sure I can get her in my hotel afterwards. BTW, the caliber of girls here in SF is underwhelming compared to LA!

**Lexx1** · 12-28-23 16:52

Man hearing some of the numbers being thrown around here lately is loco. 400 to 1000. I make good money and could afford higher ppms. I'm not rich but could still manage them. But why? I started in this game finding non-pros on Craigslist. With some dabbling on SA back then. You could find the same quality of girls on SA back then on CL for around 100-140,200 tops for an overnight. SA was always a bit more back then too. But not the amounts being thrown around now. Straight up asking for a PPM amount is not good. I've always negotiated. And if a chic is expecting a lot more. Then I'm like bye bye. I don't give in as well to buy up. I've said it before. I don't care how hot a girl is. If it's way more than I want to spend. Then bye bye. Had that happen with a hot Persian chic that wanted to upsell right at the meetup. After we had already negotiated beforehand. I was like nope, bye. My MO is negotiating before first meet. I don't usually do meet and greets. Only if the girl wants to do one. That way everything is clear and no need to waste time and money on dinners and such. The expectation is clear and we just meet up at the hotel, ready to go.

If you're a rich dude. Then fine I guess you can throw that money around. But just asking straight out for PPM amount. Is like agreeing to a prostitutes hourly amount. Which is not what a sugarbaby is normally meant to be. A non-pro. Doing this is what has driven up the price for a sugarbaby. I will keep negotiating.

**FarFarAway** · 12-28-23 15:58

Originally Posted by UnknownSD [View Original Post]

I'm guessing your comments are about my reviews since I'm the only one posting SB reviews recently. Maybe my reviews are useless to you but that's unfortunate because other members have found it useful and have shared their support. I agree with you that my reviews on SB's ppm are useless information to those who are fake daddies because they don't offer any and dislike it when other SDs offer it to SBs. After all, it just makes it harder for fake daddies to manipulate them.

Don't flatter yourself. I read several sugar threads across the US (Atlanta, Vegas, Richmond), to get general information about how people are sugaring, and they do it on all of them.

**GreenB909** · 12-28-23 12:55

Originally Posted by AceMcNasty [View Original Post]

This Brittney looks like my current blonde 19 yo SB.

Yeah so if you ever get tired of her, send over her number!

**UnknownSD** · 12-28-23 11:48

Originally Posted by NitroHX [View Original Post]

I paid a Swiss chick 200 for a dinner date and it was the best investment ever. This girl was smoking hot, legit IG influencer. She's an easy 9.

I used to pay her 600 ppm but over time she would come over for 300-400. Saw her 2-3 x a week.

She had trust issues and doing the dinner really made her feel at ease.

I'm glad this method has worked out for you. It has worked 0/3 for me so far and hesitant to try again.

**FarFarAway** · 12-28-23 11:46

Originally Posted by NitroHX [View Original Post]

I paid a Swiss chick 200 for a dinner date and it was the best investment ever. This girl was smoking hot, legit IG influencer. She's an easy 9.

I used to pay her 600 ppm but over time she would come over for 300-400. Saw her 2-3 x a week.

She had trust issues and doing the dinner really made her feel at ease.

YK, seeking has a companion website, whatsyourprice, where you are negotiating w / a girl for just the public date portion. I was recently invited by seeking to transfer my profile over to that site, they were going to give me 50 free credits to message girls. However, as I have a SO, I can't really do too much regular dating, so I haven't seriously considered this.

If anyone wants to TOFTT by getting a WYP membership, I would be interested to know about it. Of course it is possible that once you have had that initial date w / them, it could turn into something more, civvy or sugar.

**UnknownSD** · 12-28-23 10:36

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

This perspective, from one of the most experienced SDs on this site, shows that guys who message girls on the site, ask their ppms, and then post them here are wasting their time. Getting to 'yes' w / a SB is a negotiation. Or it should be. The response girls give to those messages (from among the *hundreds* they get) are like the MSRP on a new car. It is their standard, wished-for sugar. That doesn't mean they might not get involved in a much different scenario than they are thinking about for a much different amount.

I'm guessing your comments are about my reviews since I'm the only one posting SB reviews recently. Maybe my reviews are useless to you but that's unfortunate because other members have found it useful and have shared their support. I agree with you that my reviews on SB's ppm are useless information to those who are fake daddies because they don't offer any and dislike it when other SDs offer it to SBs. After all, it just makes it harder for fake daddies to manipulate them.

**NitroHX** · 12-27-23 22:23

Originally Posted by StevenWalker [View Original Post]

Based as hell my dude. Down with simps who pay before getting the fishhole.

I paid a Swiss chick 200 for a dinner date and it was the best investment ever. This girl was smoking hot, legit IG influencer. She's an easy 9.

I used to pay her 600 ppm but over time she would come over for 300-400. Saw her 2-3 x a week.

She had trust issues and doing the dinner really made her feel at ease.

**UnknownSD** · 12-27-23 20:06

Originally Posted by Uncountable [View Original Post]

Bro, I am not trying to count your pocket or anything like that but do you have a set monthly budget on these SBs or do you just spend whatever? I would go broke if I indulged myself this much. However, I used to pick a month in a year where I would spend almost 10 grand on quality SBs. That lasted until 2 years ago and I am quite frugal now. Anyway, thanks for your contributions to this thread. Much appreciated.

You're welcome. I don't have a set budget. Honestly, if you need to set a budget for sugaring, maybe consider focusing on your work and achieving financial freedom before doing sugaring. Sugaring is always around so no need to rush into it.