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[Egor2011]

Here's some more insight for the group:

Twinkle:

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...5-febad01ba8bc

https://twitter.com/twinkleestars_

If you want a tattooed alt barbie type Twinkle is fun. She is a makeup artist so she always wears a lot of makeup. And then all the LA stereotypes. Big fake tits, and injected lips. She doesn't really like people watching her eat so not the type you take to dinner. She's not the best kisser. She's pretty good at BBBJ and likes to choke on it but lacks stamina. She has a wild streak though and we've had some fun in the car which was a good time. She's really really tiny in every way. Good times. Definitely on the pro side and 600.

Tati:

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...e-c73825272d27

This girl has a handful of profiles. I have seen her when she first joined for 500. Since then I think she's gone off the deep end and had someone managing her account and then maybe got another account of her own. Though that's a bit unclear as she's been a total flake still.

Her booker has a stable of other girls the latest of which is:

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...9-e10fa438826f

Pass for me.

Francesca:

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...e-957742c49956

Wants a paid dinner to start. I explained that a M&G is unpaid and certainly not a full sugar type deal. Couldn't find a place to meet in the middle as she wouldn't go less than 400 for dinner and a blowjob.

Belle:

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...a-9b455cd55bba

Desperate pro. Her profile photos and more photos she sent me look like very different people. She explained she wears all kinds of different wigs and has a bunch of new tattoos. It felt weird to me how different they were. She was down to get together for 400 and was very persistent texting me all the time trying to meet up.

[FarFarAway]

You seem to have great negotiating methods or have other things working for you. I'm a very normal looking dude who doesn't like to waste time. I see a girl and I have a price in mind. I used to freely toss out 500-600 and that got me 80% of my picks. This allowed me to see 2-3 new girls per week with 1-2 main weekly girls.

Just for curiosity today, I scanned the local talent on tryst. I am not really interested in the escort experience, but I wondered about the lay of the land. There are some women there who are the quality (appearance at least) of my best SBs, but they were wanting 8, 9, or more for a date. So, heck, if you are getting a quality person who you might see again at that price point, it seems like a good deal.

It is a lot less work to go to an escort, w / a corresponding convenience fee. I would also be worried about my OpSec since I have an SO. Some of the girls were wanting real names, photos, etc. I get their concern, but.

[FarFarAway]

I am aware of whatsyourprice. The caliber of girls doesn't seem as great. Out of the 80-90 girls I've met from seeking, I've only attempted to do the dinner first thing with 4 girls with whom only one of them was dinner plus payment. All four of these girls were 8,9's and all four became longish term (at least 4 months).

I'm in SF right now and about to have drinks (no payment) with a 7.I'm pretty sure I can get her in my hotel afterwards. BTW, the caliber of girls here in SF is underwhelming compared to LA!

Yeah, I spent about 15 years up there. So, their team, it's the 49 ers, right? We used to talk about a lot of the girls being 49 ers also. DYK what that means? It's girls who are really 4's but think they are 9's.

LOL.

[Lexx1]

You seem to have great negotiating methods or have other things working for you. I'm a very normal looking dude who doesn't like to waste time. I see a girl and I have a price in mind. I used to freely toss out 500-600 and that got me 80% of my picks. This allowed me to see 2-3 new girls per week with 1-2 main weekly girls.

I'm not going to say I'm a hot looking or pretty boy type of dude. I have a few extra pounds on me but I lift weights. And I consider myself handsome in a manly way, old school good looks. I still date regular civie girls. But taking them out on dates doesn't always guarantee you'll get into their panties later. Which is why I also do P4 P. You are guaranteed to get that booty and don't spend time / money wining and dining. Which surprised alot of girls when I was finding them on Craigslist. Since you didn't know what each other looked like until you exchanged pics. They would ask why are you doing this. You're good looking and I'd date you in real life. And I'd explain the same thing. That dating doesn't always guarantee desert at the end. And this is the quickest way to it. They were understanding after that.

I like to negotiate. It's a challenge to me to see how low of a price I can get you at. I also grew up knowing the value of a hard earned dollar. Which alot of the younger generation nowadays don't appreciate including these girls. Pussy should be free. These girls give it away all the time, sometimes just for dinner other times for nothing. It's not rocket science to make love. So it shouldn't be that expensive when paying for it.

[NitroHX]

Man hearing some of the numbers being thrown around here lately is loco. 400 to 1000. I make good money and could afford higher ppms. I'm not rich but could still manage them. But why? I started in this game finding non-pros on Craigslist. With some dabbling on SA back then. You could find the same quality of girls on SA back then on CL for around 100-140,200 tops for an overnight. SA was always a bit more back then too. But not the amounts being thrown around now. Straight up asking for a PPM amount is not good. I've always negotiated. And if a chic is expecting a lot more. Then I'm like bye bye. I don't give in as well to buy up. I've said it before. I don't care how hot a girl is. If it's way more than I want to spend. Then bye bye. Had that happen with a hot Persian chic that wanted to upsell right at the meetup. After we had already negotiated beforehand. I was like nope, bye. My MO is negotiating before first meet. I don't usually do meet and greets. Only if the girl wants to do one. That way everything is clear and no need to waste time and money on dinners and such. The expectation is clear and we just meet up at the hotel, ready to go.

If you're a rich dude. Then fine I guess you can throw that money around. But just asking straight out for PPM amount. Is like agreeing to a prostitutes hourly amount. Which is not what a sugarbaby is normally meant to be. A non-pro. Doing this is what has driven up the price for a sugarbaby. I will keep negotiating.

You seem to have great negotiating methods or have other things working for you. I'm a very normal looking dude who doesn't like to waste time. I see a girl and I have a price in mind. I used to freely toss out 500-600 and that got me 80% of my picks. This allowed me to see 2-3 new girls per week with 1-2 main weekly girls.

[NitroHX]

YK, seeking has a companion website, whatsyourprice, where you are negotiating w / a girl for just the public date portion. I was recently invited by seeking to transfer my profile over to that site, they were going to give me 50 free credits to message girls. However, as I have a SO, I can't really do too much regular dating, so I haven't seriously considered this.

If anyone wants to TOFTT by getting a WYP membership, I would be interested to know about it. Of course it is possible that once you have had that initial date w / them, it could turn into something more, civvy or sugar.

I am aware of whatsyourprice. The caliber of girls doesn't seem as great. Out of the 80-90 girls I've met from seeking, I've only attempted to do the dinner first thing with 4 girls with whom only one of them was dinner plus payment. All four of these girls were 8,9's and all four became longish term (at least 4 months).

I'm in SF right now and about to have drinks (no payment) with a 7.I'm pretty sure I can get her in my hotel afterwards. BTW, the caliber of girls here in SF is underwhelming compared to LA!

[Lexx1]

Man hearing some of the numbers being thrown around here lately is loco. 400 to 1000. I make good money and could afford higher ppms. I'm not rich but could still manage them. But why? I started in this game finding non-pros on Craigslist. With some dabbling on SA back then. You could find the same quality of girls on SA back then on CL for around 100-140,200 tops for an overnight. SA was always a bit more back then too. But not the amounts being thrown around now. Straight up asking for a PPM amount is not good. I've always negotiated. And if a chic is expecting a lot more. Then I'm like bye bye. I don't give in as well to buy up. I've said it before. I don't care how hot a girl is. If it's way more than I want to spend. Then bye bye. Had that happen with a hot Persian chic that wanted to upsell right at the meetup. After we had already negotiated beforehand. I was like nope, bye. My MO is negotiating before first meet. I don't usually do meet and greets. Only if the girl wants to do one. That way everything is clear and no need to waste time and money on dinners and such. The expectation is clear and we just meet up at the hotel, ready to go.

If you're a rich dude. Then fine I guess you can throw that money around. But just asking straight out for PPM amount. Is like agreeing to a prostitutes hourly amount. Which is not what a sugarbaby is normally meant to be. A non-pro. Doing this is what has driven up the price for a sugarbaby. I will keep negotiating.

[FarFarAway]

I'm guessing your comments are about my reviews since I'm the only one posting SB reviews recently. Maybe my reviews are useless to you but that's unfortunate because other members have found it useful and have shared their support. I agree with you that my reviews on SB's ppm are useless information to those who are fake daddies because they don't offer any and dislike it when other SDs offer it to SBs. After all, it just makes it harder for fake daddies to manipulate them.

Don't flatter yourself. I read several sugar threads across the US (Atlanta, Vegas, Richmond), to get general information about how people are sugaring, and they do it on all of them.

[GreenB909]

This Brittney looks like my current blonde 19 yo SB.

Yeah so if you ever get tired of her, send over her number!

[UnknownSD]

I paid a Swiss chick 200 for a dinner date and it was the best investment ever. This girl was smoking hot, legit IG influencer. She's an easy 9.

I used to pay her 600 ppm but over time she would come over for 300-400. Saw her 2-3 x a week.

She had trust issues and doing the dinner really made her feel at ease.

I'm glad this method has worked out for you. It has worked 0/3 for me so far and hesitant to try again.

[FarFarAway]

I paid a Swiss chick 200 for a dinner date and it was the best investment ever. This girl was smoking hot, legit IG influencer. She's an easy 9.

I used to pay her 600 ppm but over time she would come over for 300-400. Saw her 2-3 x a week.

She had trust issues and doing the dinner really made her feel at ease.

YK, seeking has a companion website, whatsyourprice, where you are negotiating w / a girl for just the public date portion. I was recently invited by seeking to transfer my profile over to that site, they were going to give me 50 free credits to message girls. However, as I have a SO, I can't really do too much regular dating, so I haven't seriously considered this.

If anyone wants to TOFTT by getting a WYP membership, I would be interested to know about it. Of course it is possible that once you have had that initial date w / them, it could turn into something more, civvy or sugar.

[UnknownSD]

This perspective, from one of the most experienced SDs on this site, shows that guys who message girls on the site, ask their ppms, and then post them here are wasting their time. Getting to 'yes' w / a SB is a negotiation. Or it should be. The response girls give to those messages (from among the *hundreds* they get) are like the MSRP on a new car. It is their standard, wished-for sugar. That doesn't mean they might not get involved in a much different scenario than they are thinking about for a much different amount.

I'm guessing your comments are about my reviews since I'm the only one posting SB reviews recently. Maybe my reviews are useless to you but that's unfortunate because other members have found it useful and have shared their support. I agree with you that my reviews on SB's ppm are useless information to those who are fake daddies because they don't offer any and dislike it when other SDs offer it to SBs. After all, it just makes it harder for fake daddies to manipulate them.

[NitroHX]

Based as hell my dude. Down with simps who pay before getting the fishhole.

I paid a Swiss chick 200 for a dinner date and it was the best investment ever. This girl was smoking hot, legit IG influencer. She's an easy 9.

I used to pay her 600 ppm but over time she would come over for 300-400. Saw her 2-3 x a week.

She had trust issues and doing the dinner really made her feel at ease.

[UnknownSD]

Bro, I am not trying to count your pocket or anything like that but do you have a set monthly budget on these SBs or do you just spend whatever? I would go broke if I indulged myself this much. However, I used to pick a month in a year where I would spend almost 10 grand on quality SBs. That lasted until 2 years ago and I am quite frugal now. Anyway, thanks for your contributions to this thread. Much appreciated.

You're welcome. I don't have a set budget. Honestly, if you need to set a budget for sugaring, maybe consider focusing on your work and achieving financial freedom before doing sugaring. Sugaring is always around so no need to rush into it.

[StevenWalker]

Hey guys. Visiting from out of town. What is "normal" ppm in LA? 600-700? Thanks.

300-1 k is normal IMO. I never had trouble with 500 (my go to) but definitely have been laughed at by some girls LOL.