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  1. #30162
    Quote Originally Posted by Miggy90  [View Original Post]
    It's got me a little freaked out and on guard. I've called one of those places a few times and went there once like 6-10 months ago. Plus who knows where else they might be watching that didn't get busted yet. I'm hoping I do t get a call or a visit down the road about this. Would t be good for my relationship and maybe even my job if it became public. I think I'm going to stay out of the hobby for awhile.

    If anyone on here happens to get a call or something please give others a heads up.
    This is what LEO is trying to do. Scare people away. Unless you're caught in the act, on camera, or someone testifies that you paid money for sex, you're absolutely in the clear.

    Calling an AMP is not a crime unless you explicitly discussed doing illegal things (like paying money for sex, which I assume you didn't do).

    Walking into an AMP is not a crime and neither is getting a massage.

  2. #30161
    Quote Originally Posted by RamButt  [View Original Post]
    The sheriff said in one report that these places have been under surveillance for over 14 months and they are still gathering phone records and closed circuit video recordings which they said will take time to sort out. All l know is if you enter one of these places you better know that you are probably being recorded by law enforcement or the spa you are walking into and law enforcement confiscated everything from these places. I would tread very lightly for a while on visiting any massage parlors. Now l know they are not under 24 hr surveillance but you never know when you're being watched. Sure they can't prove you were doing anything but getting a massage try explaining that to your wife or girlfriend. Everyone knows what goes on in there.
    It's got me a little freaked out and on guard. I've called one of those places a few times and went there once like 6-10 months ago. Plus who knows where else they might be watching that didn't get busted yet. I'm hoping I do t get a call or a visit down the road about this. Would t be good for my relationship and maybe even my job if it became public. I think I'm going to stay out of the hobby for awhile.

    If anyone on here happens to get a call or something please give others a heads up.

  3. #30160
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterPaul  [View Original Post]
    I returned last night to finally check out Apple. I had a wonderful experience. She is hot and very accommodating. As I was leaving, a Uber driver was dropping off a new girl. I had a brief chat with her in the parking lot. She was very pretty and told me her name was Nana. Nana had shoulder length dark brown hair and gorgeous big brown eyes. She had on a winter coat and a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt. I need to return to see what she looks like without the coat and t-shirt.
    What was the cost + tip?

  4. #30159
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterPaul  [View Original Post]
    I returned last night to finally check out Apple. I had a wonderful experience. She is hot and very accommodating. As I was leaving, a Uber driver was dropping off a new girl. I had a brief chat with her in the parking lot. She was very pretty and told me her name was Nana. Nana had shoulder length dark brown hair and gorgeous big brown eyes. She had on a winter coat and a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt. I need to return to see what she looks like without the coat and t-shirt.
    Cowboy Tshirt? Clearly LEO.

  5. #30158
    Quote Originally Posted by RamButt  [View Original Post]
    The sheriff said in one report that these places have been under surveillance for over 14 months and they are still gathering phone records and closed circuit video recordings which they said will take time to sort out. All l know is if you enter one of these places you better know that you are probably being recorded by law enforcement or the spa you are walking into and law enforcement confiscated everything from these places. I would tread very lightly for a while on visiting any massage parlors. Now l know they are not under 24 hr surveillance but you never know when you're being watched. Sure they can't prove you were doing anything but getting a massage try explaining that to your wife or girlfriend. Everyone knows what goes on in there.
    If they can't prove you got anything more than a massage, then why would they even bother to go after a John in the first place?

    I think the only way a monger gets into trouble is if he's caught in the act by a raid, propositions an undercover cop in a sting operation, or if there are phone records or texts explicitly talking about paying money for sex.

    Can anyone with a legal background chime in?

  6. #30157
    Quote Originally Posted by JDoe1969  [View Original Post]
    Just because they record you going in to one of these places is not enough proof to say you did something illegal inside. I doubt anything would come of this. Anyone have an idea how long any of these places were being monitored before the raid?
    The sheriff said in one report that these places have been under surveillance for over 14 months and they are still gathering phone records and closed circuit video recordings which they said will take time to sort out. All l know is if you enter one of these places you better know that you are probably being recorded by law enforcement or the spa you are walking into and law enforcement confiscated everything from these places. I would tread very lightly for a while on visiting any massage parlors. Now l know they are not under 24 hr surveillance but you never know when you're being watched. Sure they can't prove you were doing anything but getting a massage try explaining that to your wife or girlfriend. Everyone knows what goes on in there.

  7. #30156

    Brianna in Bloomfield

    Quote Originally Posted by BReal2025  [View Original Post]
    Anyone tried this girl out? Very curious! New here BTW, hello.

    https://adultsearch.com/us/michigan/...y-rubs/1775236
    She's been reviewed on here several times, I recommend searching. I saw her once years ago. She's good looking with a big fake ass, but that's about the extent of the positive on her.

  8. #30155

    All Green

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterPaul  [View Original Post]
    I came across this place online. I decided it deserved a look so I stopped in this morning as they were opening. There were a few workers inside putting the finishing touches on some counters. I was welcomed in by a very hot Asian woman named Apple (from 1717). She asked if I wanted a massage. I decided to come back in a few days because I could not relax with the workers in the building. Apple assured me that they would be gone in less than an hour. But I could not wait. Apple said there was another sweet young girl available today with another coming on Tuesday. From what I could see, this place is very nice. Table shower, several nice rooms and plenty of parking. Everything is new and very clean. I can't wait to come back and try out the table shower. 13 Mile at Greenfield in Beverly Hills.
    I returned last night to finally check out Apple. I had a wonderful experience. She is hot and very accommodating. As I was leaving, a Uber driver was dropping off a new girl. I had a brief chat with her in the parking lot. She was very pretty and told me her name was Nana. Nana had shoulder length dark brown hair and gorgeous big brown eyes. She had on a winter coat and a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt. I need to return to see what she looks like without the coat and t-shirt.

  9. #30154

    New guy

    I'm new to the massage scene as I'm normally a strip club guy. Reading lots of fun info to temp me into a massage but was wondering, after reading about raids, what happens to a customer if you're there during a raid? Thanks in advance!

  10. #30153

    FS List

    Do we still have remaining FS spa remaining?

    Might as well post the full name and address here too.

  11. #30152

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by HeeJunk  [View Original Post]
    In the words of Aaron Rodgers. Just RELAX. Its a year end money grab. The landscape will only change briefly. Look up Warren Oh, and you will understand how this works. Minimal charges in exchange for stolen cash. Then return to normal. Wash, rinse, repeat.
    I completely agree with HeeJunk. While sure it's a bit scary to all of us because it happened so suddenly (and without much warning as most raids / stings do), it's exactly the reaction that the cops want out of us (the clients). They think by temporarily giving us a scare that we'll stay away and stop patronizing these businesses. What they don't understand / realize is that there will always be a market for these services. Granted, do I want these girls to not be trafficked into providing them? Of FUCKING COURSE! But the reason why this trafficking exists in the first place is because it's illegal, full stop. Make this shit legal / regulated and you solve human trafficking (or at the very least make it so minimal that it's easier to police and protect victims of it).

    At the end of the day, the good providers will continue to provide and there's still a ton of options out there that I'm sure are safe from Uncle LEO even right at this very moment. Hell, even the bad ones that got busted will just learn from their mistakes, find a new place and re-start up their business in a different building or city in a few weeks / months. Suffice to say, the world's oldest profession isn't going away any time soon. If anything, it's just going to evolve until it's federally legalized in few years / decades. If Nevada can do it, so can we.

  12. #30151

    Brianna, Bloomfield

    Anyone tried this girl out? Very curious! New here BTW, hello.

    https://adultsearch.com/us/michigan/...y-rubs/1775236

  13. #30150

    Trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by RamButt  [View Original Post]
    You bet you can be in trouble. You may get a visit from the FBI or sheriff's office if they connect your number or license plate to one of those establishments.
    As long as you are not sending incriminating text messages to any of these places you should be perfectly fine. Just because someone is filmed visiting one of these places does not mean anything illegal has happened. People do go here for just a massage. It doesn't mean you did something illegal just cause you walked in.

  14. #30149

    Raid

    Quote Originally Posted by GolDark  [View Original Post]
    That's definitely a smart thing to do.

    However I know for a fact that at least one of the places raided recorded cars / licenses as they parked, and tied that to you as they recorded you entering the doorway.

    There is no way out of that one if they're set on identifying you.
    Just because they record you going in to one of these places is not enough proof to say you did something illegal inside. I doubt anything would come of this. Anyone have an idea how long any of these places were being monitored before the raid?

  15. #30148

    Damnit

    Quote Originally Posted by McNastyNasty  [View Original Post]
    These are the places raided:

    These locations included:

    Seven Day Spa - 289 Southbound Gratiot, Mt. Clemens, MI.

    Miracle Massage - 31044 Utica Rd, Fraser, MI.

    Day Spa Asian Massage - 46697 Van Dyke, Shelby Township, MI.

    Seven Mile Spa - 28917 West 7 Mile, Livonia, MI.

    Bodyworks Massage - 9138 Middlebelt, Livonia, MI.

    One residence Troy, MI.

    One residence Livonia, MI.

    Two hotel rooms. MGM Casino in Detroit, MI.
    Well there goes my Christmas present I was going to buy for myself next week. I wasn't planning to go to any of these but I'm sure all the other ones are going to probably be on guard for a while. You guys just stay safe out there.

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