Strip Club Reports

[MichiBob]

Exactly.

I've had dancers in that same boat: Not my type for dances or more, but I've been willing to humor them if they're good conversation and tip them for their time. In return, they've been an asset in other ways.

I'm a believer we should all be more analytical generally. For me, the process starts before I even go to the club. Case in point with Chicago, there are four clubs I'll frequent: Two within a couple blocks of each other, one about a half an hour to the south of those, and another about 20 minutes to the south of that. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages:

- The first club knows me well enough that they comp my cover. A floor host / bouncer there also knew me well enough that he'd talk baseball with me and buy me a beer -- he just left there, unfortunately. That's the club with the twins and the toothy brunette. My favorite there is a Romanian MILF who gives a spectacular grind. Definitely a top-five all time for me. However, sometimes, I'm not in the mood for her if I feel like she's fallen into a routine and I won't be surprised by what she does. I have her E-mail and can find out if she's in if I E-mail her a few days ahead of time, but I'm not always that forward-thinking. If she's not there, most of the other talent doesn't do it for me.

- The second club is just down the street. Never comped cover. I'm not a huge fan of that club, but it's risk / reward scenario in terms of talent as they have a few hot girls, including a blonde spinner who sometimes flips my lid and sometimes doesn't. Probably my least favorite of the four choices. Worth it sometimes to see if there's new talent, but the way the girls are coached to not converse as much as get to the point quickly there bothers me.

- The third club is my favorite when it has good talent. Big place that knows me well enough to comp me cover and let me sit in the nicer upstairs section of the club whenever I go -- not exactly a VIP section, but a more-exclusive area with its own bar. Thing is, though, they have the most talent turnover. Plus they have more regular girls who I've either repeatedly passed on or tried out and was like, "Eh, not worth trying again. " They had a spectacular German / Brazilian mix blonde who only came in once in a while for a long time and was amazing conversation in multiple languages, including the language of dance and sensuality. But since she's seemed to give up the business, the place hasn't been as good to me as it was. It's not that the talent is overall bad or not plentiful. They're just not finding my type.

- The fourth club is the furthest away to the point where getting home after a visit is a chore. I'm more apt to go if I'm staying in that part of the city rather than coming from the north as I often am. Good news is, extras are sometimes available. Bad news is, it's a long drive, the extras are costly and there's one particular dancer there who will really glom onto me and not let me go until I've taken her back for said extras. Blonde, small MILF, new tits and talented but persistent and not cheap. Lays the charm on so think that it starts to feel a little too fake, and very difficult to make go away once she's spotted me. I can text her and see if she's in, but to be honest, I sometimes prefer to go when she says she's not. It's expensive enough that it's just not an option for me sometimes.

Before I decide to head to the club on the Friday or Saturday nights I work, I have to decide which place I'm in the mood for. Do I have the cash and time and am in the mood for the blonde who will drain it all along with something else? Do I want the spectacular Romanian with the grind? Am I in the mood to see if I can find some new & different talent? How far do I want to drive?

I think a lot of you Detroiters have to make similar decisions, too. Do I want to troll Bogies or H8 and see if I can get a deal but also come away smelling like an ashtray? Do I want to try FC or LS and get a super hot chick but possibly lose half my fortune or not be able to negotiate down and get nothing? Do I want to go in-between to someplace like Criket or BT's? You try to match the experience to what you want on that particular night.

As someone who lives in between the 2 cities I can tell you that you have it way in the Detroit area compared to Chicago clubs. Extras are pretty much non existent in Chicago area. It a shame but the truth. I will drive the extra distance to Detroit rather than waste my money in Chicago. Having traveled the country and sampled strip clubs all over. The 2 best cities I have found are Tampa and Detroit. For extras. Years ago Dallas was pretty good. Not sure how it is now. Would love to hear others experiences and recommendations for cities that are good for extras.

[Chimil Detin]

I've found that building relationships with 3-4 different girls in a club that I want to frequent has paid some pretty good dividends, even if I don't always patronize those girls in the VIP. I had a pretty fun thing going with a girl at Bogie's for a while, who I expressly told wasn't really my type, but was fun to talk to and I'd buy a beer for her sometimes when it was slow. She'd hang out and chat, and we'd just shoot the shit or evaluate the talent in there on those days. If I told her I liked the look of someone, she'd give me the scoop on them, and a few times went and grabbed them off the pole to come and talk to me. She probably snatched a few bucks from their donation afterwards, lmao. Savvy chick.

Exactly.

I've had dancers in that same boat: Not my type for dances or more, but I've been willing to humor them if they're good conversation and tip them for their time. In return, they've been an asset in other ways.

I'm a believer we should all be more analytical generally. For me, the process starts before I even go to the club. Case in point with Chicago, there are four clubs I'll frequent: Two within a couple blocks of each other, one about a half an hour to the south of those, and another about 20 minutes to the south of that. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages:

- The first club knows me well enough that they comp my cover. A floor host / bouncer there also knew me well enough that he'd talk baseball with me and buy me a beer -- he just left there, unfortunately. That's the club with the twins and the toothy brunette. My favorite there is a Romanian MILF who gives a spectacular grind. Definitely a top-five all time for me. However, sometimes, I'm not in the mood for her if I feel like she's fallen into a routine and I won't be surprised by what she does. I have her E-mail and can find out if she's in if I E-mail her a few days ahead of time, but I'm not always that forward-thinking. If she's not there, most of the other talent doesn't do it for me.

- The second club is just down the street. Never comped cover. I'm not a huge fan of that club, but it's risk / reward scenario in terms of talent as they have a few hot girls, including a blonde spinner who sometimes flips my lid and sometimes doesn't. Probably my least favorite of the four choices. Worth it sometimes to see if there's new talent, but the way the girls are coached to not converse as much as get to the point quickly there bothers me.

- The third club is my favorite when it has good talent. Big place that knows me well enough to comp me cover and let me sit in the nicer upstairs section of the club whenever I go -- not exactly a VIP section, but a more-exclusive area with its own bar. Thing is, though, they have the most talent turnover. Plus they have more regular girls who I've either repeatedly passed on or tried out and was like, "Eh, not worth trying again. " They had a spectacular German / Brazilian mix blonde who only came in once in a while for a long time and was amazing conversation in multiple languages, including the language of dance and sensuality. But since she's seemed to give up the business, the place hasn't been as good to me as it was. It's not that the talent is overall bad or not plentiful. They're just not finding my type.

- The fourth club is the furthest away to the point where getting home after a visit is a chore. I'm more apt to go if I'm staying in that part of the city rather than coming from the north as I often am. Good news is, extras are sometimes available. Bad news is, it's a long drive, the extras are costly and there's one particular dancer there who will really glom onto me and not let me go until I've taken her back for said extras. Blonde, small MILF, new tits and talented but persistent and not cheap. Lays the charm on so think that it starts to feel a little too fake, and very difficult to make go away once she's spotted me. I can text her and see if she's in, but to be honest, I sometimes prefer to go when she says she's not. It's expensive enough that it's just not an option for me sometimes.

Before I decide to head to the club on the Friday or Saturday nights I work, I have to decide which place I'm in the mood for. Do I have the cash and time and am in the mood for the blonde who will drain it all along with something else? Do I want the spectacular Romanian with the grind? Am I in the mood to see if I can find some new & different talent? How far do I want to drive?

I think a lot of you Detroiters have to make similar decisions, too. Do I want to troll Bogies or H8 and see if I can get a deal but also come away smelling like an ashtray? Do I want to try FC or LS and get a super hot chick but possibly lose half my fortune or not be able to negotiate down and get nothing? Do I want to go in-between to someplace like Criket or BT's? You try to match the experience to what you want on that particular night.

[Pussylicker2]

Hey all, I live a few hours south but I've been lurking here for a while. I'm going to be in the Detroit area next weekend for work and wanted to try hitting up FC / LS. Any advice for someone who's never been to either location before?

Lots of people like these clubs. Both of them require you give them your car keys, you can't even park down the street and walk in. Expect to have stuff stolen from your vehicle. If you and a dancer have a disagreement about what you owe her the club will always side with the dancer (you're easier to replace than she is), you won't get your keys until you make her happy. Be sure to report back on your experience!

[SomeNobody]

Hey all, I live a few hours south but I've been lurking here for a while. I'm going to be in the Detroit area next weekend for work and wanted to try hitting up FC / LS. Any advice for someone who's never been to either location before?

[Nick6789]

I see these peelers go on facebook or instagram live while working and they can be possesive of regular customers. Saying things like, that girl better not steal my regular. Or he better spend all his money on me today. All while I'm over here looking for the hot new thing.

[Korlock]

Being a regular is sometimes about playing the long game. You have to see the ebbs and flows. It can truly be a game of chess sometimes. Got to think about it a few different ways.

This feels like it could be a little bit too galaxy-brained to be realistic, but for what it's worth, I enjoyed your whole post and it does make me think a little bit more deeply about experiences I've had at some of the Detroit clubs.

Not sure if anyone else here will agree, but I feel like at most of the clubs here, dancer turnover is far slower than any sort of established 'average'. Girls do tend to stick around a bit longer here, and from what I've gleaned from the dancers I've talked about this with, they tend to leave a club when they run into issues with the other dancers more so than any other reason. Or, at least, those are the sorts of stories that I'm told.

With that in mind, I've found that building relationships with 3-4 different girls in a club that I want to frequent has paid some pretty good dividends, even if I don't always patronize those girls in the VIP. I had a pretty fun thing going with a girl at Bogie's for a while, who I expressly told wasn't really my type, but was fun to talk to and I'd buy a beer for her sometimes when it was slow. She'd hang out and chat, and we'd just shoot the shit or evaluate the talent in there on those days. If I told her I liked the look of someone, she'd give me the scoop on them, and a few times went and grabbed them off the pole to come and talk to me. She probably snatched a few bucks from their donation afterwards, lmao. Savvy chick.

Strip club politics can be pretty interesting when you dig into it. I'm going to be attending the Criket a little bit more often over the next few months, and will try to build similar bridges with talent there that I enjoy.

[Chimil Detin]

Don't wait for dancers to come to you, ask the dancer you want to stop by.

A couple things:

First off, it's more than just whether they come to your or not. It's how receptive they are to you, no matter who starts the conversation. I've had dancers where I've tried to initiate the conversation and gotten a very cold shoulder. If I want that feeling of invalidation, I can just go fail trying to hit on non-dancers at a regular bar. I'll probably pay less for cover, too.

Receptiveness is particularly important in a place like Detroit with negotiation. When negotiation comes into play, the lady has more power. If she doesn't want to do anything with you, she can set her price high and basically shut you out.

Secondly, though, I know this sounds like a simplistic answer but — I don't wanna.

One of the reasons I like the club over just going out to try and pick up civvy chicks is because the girls come to you. I like that better. It takes away the awkwardness of having to come up with an opening line, deal with her potentially shooting you down, all of that.

Granted, I will go after what I want sometimes, but in a different way. Usually, my way of making it clear is by tipping the ladies I like when they're on stage, often with a message of, "Come find me when you're free. " Or, if I see a woman I want to get dances from sitting around alone, I'll approach.

But yeah, part of what I like about the club is the fact I can be passive for a change. And yes, that also means turning down dancers I don't want dances from. "I have to tell you, I'm waiting on someone. " That gets the message across quickly.

Bouncers ignore dancer drama. What you are thinking of are floor managers, which some clubs have. Floor managers make sure the dancers are moving around and direct the prettier ones to groups and parties. Personally, I prefer that these idiots to not direct them towards me. The few times a dancer was directed towards me, she has typically been new and lame, or expensive.

The places I'm thinking of, floor hosts and bouncers are largely interchangeable. They have radios to drive business, but also are all able to step up if a situation happens. They spend a lot more time being hosts than bouncers, but I think of them as bouncers because I think of all big dudes as bouncers. Semantics.

At a different club I frequent regularly, one of the floor hosts, as you put it (but also a guy who wrestled in college and can kick ass if needed), knows my type and will send them my way if he senses a good match. But he also knows, unless there's something I want to find, I largely want to be left alone to talk to the lingerie-clad barmaid and nurse my beer. He also knows I'm a roamer, too. I'll walk the club to search for something I want.

You might want to reconsider how you approach these clubs. I have been a regular at many clubs, in Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Detroit over the years. This includes the so called "upscale" clubs you seem to visit, and I have never had to play the long game. Dancers quickly learn who the regulars are who spends money and gravitate towards them.

You're spot on about the dancers, but you leave one piece of the equation out: Yes, dancers gravitate toward those who spend money. I don't want to spend money!

I'm not a super-rich guy who can just toss cash willy-nilly. I save up to do a few VIPs when I make my way to Detroit. In most other cities, I'm not doing rooms, just dances, and just a few a night. I have to pick and choose and try and get the best bang for my buck on my budget. So I have to strategize to work around that.

Even when I visit an out of state club for the first time I rarely have problems finding a good dancer.

The other thing I am is picky.

I want my type — a type that's going out of style at clubs, as I want the girl with it all: Looks and a bust, but also sensuality, a good grind, good hair, a good face, a good smile, a brain and the ability to hold a conversation and flirt, and so on. A growing percentage of my club trips result in me saying, "Nope, none of the girls here tonight are worth spending my money on. " I don't like to settle.

When you have high standards and low funds, you've got to try and make up the gap. I try to do that with strategy.

You say I overthink. I say I have to, and that it serves me well because I think I get further, with better quality ladies and less cash, than most others. But it does mean there are times I have to use workarounds, focus on some clubs over others for a while, and so on.

[Time Twist]

What I've also noticed is, when she lets newbies start to pick their targets on their own, if they pick me, she'll subtly steer them away: She knows I've never been a fan of her, have a kind of particular taste, and have my few regular girls I like. So I think she influences the other dancers to not go to me, too.

You are overthinking things. Don't wait for dancers to come to you, ask the dancer you want to stop by. Maybe once or twice have I ever heard from a dancer that they didn't ask if I wanted a dance because they heard I don't get dances. Each time I answered, "I get plenty of dances, but only from dancers I like. ".

Furthermore, dancers talk with the bouncers. Bouncers recommend customers to the dancers. The door staff gets to know you. All of that. They're there three, four nights a week. They know each other. They talk. They start picking up on who the regulars are. They track their tendencies. And if they make a decision about you, one bad seed can influence the whole group.

Again, you are overthinking things. Bouncers ignore dancer drama. What you are thinking of are floor managers, which some clubs have. Floor managers make sure the dancers are moving around and direct the prettier ones to groups and parties. Personally, I prefer that these idiots to not direct them towards me. The few times a dancer was directed towards me, she has typically been new and lame, or expensive.

Being a regular is sometimes about playing the long game. You have to see the ebbs and flows. It can truly be a game of chess sometimes. Got to think about it a few different ways.

You might want to reconsider how you approach these clubs. I have been a regular at many clubs, in Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Detroit over the years. This includes the so called "upscale" clubs you seem to visit, and I have never had to play the long game. Dancers quickly learn who the regulars are who spends money and gravitate towards them.

Even when I visit an out of state club for the first time I rarely have problems finding a good dancer.

[Chimil Detin]

Might I ask why you even care about the opinion of dancers you don't get services from? At most, if you're that much a regular those particular dancers just stop approaching you eventually so I don't see what the problem is.

Simple answer: Dancers talk and sometimes work together. You don't know who's friends with who.

Example: There's a club I frequent in Chicago I'm at often enough where I kind of know their tendencies. I can't say for certain, but I notice they have almost a team approach there.

One pair of hot blonde, busty friends tends to focus on luring prospective big fish into rooms. I've gotten dances with both individually and, to be honest, they're not great dancers. Super hot, yes; great dancers, no. Classic case of hot enough to lure guys in without having to work very hard. Keep in mind, Chicago is nowhere near as lenient about extras as Detroit, so level of grind is the biggest factor in determining good dancers there. These two practically give air dances such that I've only gotten dances with them once; it may have been on purpose as I think they figured out I wasn't headed to a room and just wanted to be done with me to get back to shooting for bigger prizes. I've even noticed, on nights when one of the two or both are missing, other girls will take on a similar role. It's clear enough that I wonder -- don't know, wonder -- if it's almost a role the club has for two dancers on any given weekend night.

They're not as important to my point, though, as another girl, a toothy brunette with kinda crazy eyes. Her role, when I see her there, is basically to be a trainer. She'll tag team with new dancers to show them how to work customers and try and convince those customers to get dances with either the new girl or the both of them. What I've noticed with her is that she will be more hands-on or hands-off, depending on how timid or aggressive the newbie is, or maybe based on how comfortably the newbie taking to their new trade. When I saw her on her own the first few times, I noticed she seemed over-aggressive and pushy, which is probably part of why the club picked her to be the trainer.

What I've also noticed is, when she lets newbies start to pick their targets on their own, if they pick me, she'll subtly steer them away: She knows I've never been a fan of her, have a kind of particular taste, and have my few regular girls I like. So I think she influences the other dancers to not go to me, too.

Now that's generally fine unless she's mentoring a girl I actually do think I might have an interest in. It's a problem, though, if she decides to explain to that dancer that I'm not worth approaching when, in reality, I may actually want her to approach.

Furthermore, dancers talk with the bouncers. Bouncers recommend customers to the dancers. The door staff gets to know you. All of that. They're there three, four nights a week. They know each other. They talk. They start picking up on who the regulars are. They track their tendencies. And if they make a decision about you, one bad seed can influence the whole group.

Honestly, I'm thinking that club might lose my business for a while once my favorite retires, and I think part of the reason might be that my favorite was awesome, but I didn't diversify. I might need to go away for a while, maybe a few years, to be forgotten some before I can start fresh. There's a couple other clubs I frequent as well where I'm starting to wonder if I've played out my welcome with all but my favorites. In Detroit, which I only get to a few times a year, that might not be as big of a problem with so many clubs. But in other places, with more limited options, it can be an issue.

Being a regular is sometimes about playing the long game. You have to see the ebbs and flows. It can truly be a game of chess sometimes. Got to think about it a few different ways.

[Marelobo Mex]

I'd wager that most of us are like that, just that all our 90%'s and 10%'s aren't the same and that's what keeps the ecosystem going.

They tend to show how experienced they are at this point, which can be utilized at the club. The fresh ones are looking for an instant payday, experienced ones know how it works for the long game.

First I agree different guys like all different things. I like cute spinner types with small tits. Peace to anyone who prefers cuvry girls or double Ds.

I don't need her to talk about me. I already know about me, I am much more interested to talk about her, as it fuels my fantasy. Did she used to work a Qdoba, was she a receptionist in a dentist office, did she play softball, was she in the band etc. Many fun fantasies here.

There are multiple elements to success. Looks, most girls can't change their looks enough to make me want to take them. Those who alter their looks usually make themselves look less attractive in my opinion. But I am only going to the back with girls I find to be hot. That eliminates about 80% of the girl right away.

Assuming I find her hot, then I assess our chemistry at the table during the conversation. Roughly half the girls I have good chemistry and half I have bad chemistry.

Assuming I find her hot and we have good chemistry, then I am desiring to go to the VIP, assuming we can reach agreement on a reasonable price point. I have had a number of hot fun girls I did not go to the back with because the were asking for more than $300. While I was disappointed not to sample them, they got zero from me. The much smarter girls where willing to go for $200 in which case I would see her multiple times (unless there was some problem with her dances), putting hundreds of dollars in her purse, and if she was one of my favorite girls for the year she would earn thousands of dollars over many repeat sessions.

I guess the girls I didn't find to be hot, didn't like the chemistry, or couldn't agree on a reasonable price don't like me. But I don't think I care.

MM.

[DuckDuckInFin]

I feel the same way MM. I am not mean but I politely dismiss 90% of those new dancers who approach me

I'd wager that most of us are like that, just that all our 90%'s and 10%'s aren't the same and that's what keeps the ecosystem going.

unless they are one of the few with wisdom who start a conversation and initially make it about me instead of themselves, after a bit of that type of conversation they can seal the deal by being direct, and if they are wise enough to do that they can become a regular, most of the dancers and 90% of the real young dancers can only carry a conversation about themselves

They tend to show how experienced they are at this point, which can be utilized at the club. The fresh ones are looking for an instant payday, experienced ones know how it works for the long game.

[DangerMRW123]

I was at Bogarts today around 5 pm. There were about a dozen dancers with only 4 worth getting extras from. There were two MILF blondes with big tits, but they were with other customers. A brunette spinner named Kelly. We chatted for a while and she was cute but I was not feeling it. Enter Deva, petite mixed spinner with a perfect ass and small tits with great nipples. She danced on the main stage and then meet up with me after I tipped her. She was an absolute sweetheart. She quoted me $250 for FS but I told her I only had $180 on me. (like a casino, only take in what you can afford to spend). She agreed and we headed up. I paid the fee and went back. Started with a great blow job. I had to do everything in my power to not nut. She stood up and I bent her over the chair and went to pound town. She was moaning and talking dirty. I could feel her dripping down my leg. I want med to have her ride me CG but decided to finish. She said she did not expect that and had a good time. Definitely worth a visit.

[JackOfClubs]

Completely agree.

I am used to most of the dancers not liking me anyway. I am very selective and will see the same girl multiple times if I like her. On any given night there are usually only 10% of the girls I would pay money to spend time with them. The other 90% don't like me.

MM.

I feel the same way MM. I am not mean but I politely dismiss 90% of those new dancers who approach me, unless they are one of the few with wisdom who start a conversation and initially make it about me instead of themselves, after a bit of that type of conversation they can seal the deal by being direct, and if they are wise enough to do that they can become a regular, most of the dancers and 90% of the real young dancers can only carry a conversation about themselves.

[Marelobo Mex]

Might I ask why you even care about the opinion of dancers you don't get services from? At most, if you're that much a regular those particular dancers just stop approaching you eventually so I don't see what the problem is.

Completely agree.

I am used to most of the dancers not liking me anyway. I am very selective and will see the same girl multiple times if I like her. On any given night there are usually only 10% of the girls I would pay money to spend time with them. The other 90% don't like me.

MM.

[Dark Traveler]

I have been meaning to try Subi's but did not get their during the suggested daytime / weekday shifts. I usually do a round of FC, SC and BT's Saturday night.

Is Subi's worth the extra drive south on the weekend or should I just wait until next week? I assume it is on par with Silvery Criket.