"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**JunkSecond** · 12-07-23 02:03

Originally Posted by SeekingRdu [View Original Post]

Not with cetainty? Bro you just reeled off the biggest list of red flags and obvious signs I could ever imagine. I respect the senior status but man you need to get a bit more cynical and wise up with these. This is an exceptionally obvious scam.

So how did they swap in a prerecorded video for a WhatsApp video call? I have never heard of or read a review about that being done before. Wether she was a real person or a scammer I bail with a deposit request. I'm sharing the info to give you guys a heads up of something I haven't seen before or even thought possible on WhatsApp. It's easy to judge in hindsight, but as events unfold in real time this was not obviously a scam until they got to the point of a deposit. I see someone found the video and shared a link, I appreciate that.

**NiteLifed69** · 12-06-23 13:21

Originally Posted by DoctorSugar [View Original Post]

Gia3314 wants 800 per meet. More than I'll spend even though she's hot.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...d-67c0e381d383

Was the 800 for an overnight or weekend?

**Airmantroy** · 12-06-23 13:05

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h5deacc39b6ec1

The fact that she's "in Atlanta" in that dress this time of year would have had me laughing.

**Member #6718** · 12-06-23 11:10

Originally Posted by JunkSecond [View Original Post]

The call ends and then I get the request for 100 to confirm appointment and 400 upon arrival. I bail at the request to send 100, but could see where many would not, given how real it seemed. What is weird is I don't recall any sound in the video call. Is it possible to play a pre recorded clip on a WhatsApp video call? I'm calling it a scam but not with certainty.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...6-470bf07fa350

Not with cetainty? Bro you just reeled off the biggest list of red flags and obvious signs I could ever imagine. I respect the senior status but man you need to get a bit more cynical and wise up with these. This is an exceptionally obvious scam.

**Airmantroy** · 12-06-23 11:01

Originally Posted by JunkSecond [View Original Post]

Still not 100% sure on this one, will do my best to explain the interaction.

Profile said she was from Paris here in the states on business. A little more detail in the profile than typical scams and some grammatical errors, but not a native speaker so I let it slide. I decide to hit her up in French. She gets back right away typing faster French than I can read, so was legit on the French connection. Says that she is a SugarBaby for a discreet agency and doing this to help her family back home. I tell her no thanks as I don't deal with agencies. She replies that I only deal with her directly, in person, and she will do video verification on WhatsApp. I get the digits thinking she is an escort with an agency, then things head weird.

First WhatsApp message says she just got in an Uber and we can video call but must be discreet. Immediately after the message I get the call and say hello. She immediately puts her fingers to her lips to shush me. Then pans to the driver and out the window to show her in a moving car. Without speaking she lifts her skirt and videos her pussy. She then begins rubbing herself, then proceeds to fingerbang herself. All this with no voice on her end.

The call ends and then I get the request for 100 to confirm appointment and 400 upon arrival. I bail at the request to send 100, but could see where many would not, given how real it seemed. What is weird is I don't recall any sound in the video call. Is it possible to play a pre recorded clip on a WhatsApp video call? I'm calling it a scam but not with certainty.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...6-470bf07fa350

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h5d177fc77dc40

Facecheck nailed her immediately.

**Member #7014** · 12-06-23 02:13

Originally Posted by JunkSecond [View Original Post]

Still not 100% sure on this one, will do my best to explain the interaction.

Profile said she was from Paris here in the states on business. A little more detail in the profile than typical scams and some grammatical errors, but not a native speaker so I let it slide. I decide to hit her up in French. She gets back right away typing faster French than I can read, so was legit on the French connection. Says that she is a SugarBaby for a discreet agency and doing this to help her family back home. I tell her no thanks as I don't deal with agencies. She replies that I only deal with her directly, in person, and she will do video verification on WhatsApp. I get the digits thinking she is an escort with an agency, then things head weird.

First WhatsApp message says she just got in an Uber and we can video call but must be discreet. Immediately after the message I get the call and say hello. She immediately puts her fingers to her lips to shush me. Then pans to the driver and out the window to show her in a moving car. Without speaking she lifts her skirt and videos her pussy. She then begins rubbing herself, then proceeds to fingerbang herself. All this with no voice on her end.

The call ends and then I get the request for 100 to confirm appointment and 400 upon arrival. I bail at the request to send 100, but could see where many would not, given how real it seemed. What is weird is I don't recall any sound in the video call. Is it possible to play a pre recorded clip on a WhatsApp video call? I'm calling it a scam but not with certainty.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...6-470bf07fa350

Wants a deposit and asks for a gift card in her ad? Definitely a scam.

**TheAnswer4** · 12-05-23 23:59

Bro the profile says she wants your $ in gift cards. That's a scam 100% of the time.

Originally Posted by JunkSecond [View Original Post]

Still not 100% sure on this one, will do my best to explain the interaction.

Profile said she was from Paris here in the states on business. A little more detail in the profile than typical scams and some grammatical errors, but not a native speaker so I let it slide. I decide to hit her up in French. She gets back right away typing faster French than I can read, so was legit on the French connection. Says that she is a SugarBaby for a discreet agency and doing this to help her family back home. I tell her no thanks as I don't deal with agencies. She replies that I only deal with her directly, in person, and she will do video verification on WhatsApp. I get the digits thinking she is an escort with an agency, then things head weird.

First WhatsApp message says she just got in an Uber and we can video call but must be discreet. Immediately after the message I get the call and say hello. She immediately puts her fingers to her lips to shush me. Then pans to the driver and out the window to show her in a moving car. Without speaking she lifts her skirt and videos her pussy. She then begins rubbing herself, then proceeds to fingerbang herself. All this with no voice on her end.

The call ends and then I get the request for 100 to confirm appointment and 400 upon arrival. I bail at the request to send 100, but could see where many would not, given how real it seemed. What is weird is I don't recall any sound in the video call. Is it possible to play a pre recorded clip on a WhatsApp video call? I'm calling it a scam but not with certainty.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...6-470bf07fa350

**TooHotForYou** · 12-05-23 23:33

Originally Posted by JunkSecond [View Original Post]

Still not 100% sure on this one, will do my best to explain the interaction.

Profile said she was from Paris here in the states on business. A little more detail in the profile than typical scams and some grammatical errors, but not a native speaker so I let it slide. I decide to hit her up in French. She gets back right away typing faster French than I can read, so was legit on the French connection. Says that she is a SugarBaby for a discreet agency and doing this to help her family back home. I tell her no thanks as I don't deal with agencies. She replies that I only deal with her directly, in person, and she will do video verification on WhatsApp. I get the digits thinking she is an escort with an agency, then things head weird.

First WhatsApp message says she just got in an Uber and we can video call but must be discreet. Immediately after the message I get the call and say hello. She immediately puts her fingers to her lips to shush me. Then pans to the driver and out the window to show her in a moving car. Without speaking she lifts her skirt and videos her pussy. She then begins rubbing herself, then proceeds to fingerbang herself. All this with no voice on her end.

The call ends and then I get the request for 100 to confirm appointment and 400 upon arrival. I bail at the request to send 100, but could see where many would not, given how real it seemed. What is weird is I don't recall any sound in the video call. Is it possible to play a pre recorded clip on a WhatsApp video call? I'm calling it a scam but not with certainty.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...6-470bf07fa350

Yes, it is possible you saw a pre recorded video. Happened to me one time on Skype where I thought I was looking at a naked woman. Forget it and move on.

**JunkSecond** · 12-05-23 23:14

Still not 100% sure on this one, will do my best to explain the interaction.

Profile said she was from Paris here in the states on business. A little more detail in the profile than typical scams and some grammatical errors, but not a native speaker so I let it slide. I decide to hit her up in French. She gets back right away typing faster French than I can read, so was legit on the French connection. Says that she is a SugarBaby for a discreet agency and doing this to help her family back home. I tell her no thanks as I don't deal with agencies. She replies that I only deal with her directly, in person, and she will do video verification on WhatsApp. I get the digits thinking she is an escort with an agency, then things head weird.

First WhatsApp message says she just got in an Uber and we can video call but must be discreet. Immediately after the message I get the call and say hello. She immediately puts her fingers to her lips to shush me. Then pans to the driver and out the window to show her in a moving car. Without speaking she lifts her skirt and videos her pussy. She then begins rubbing herself, then proceeds to fingerbang herself. All this with no voice on her end.

The call ends and then I get the request for 100 to confirm appointment and 400 upon arrival. I bail at the request to send 100, but could see where many would not, given how real it seemed. What is weird is I don't recall any sound in the video call. Is it possible to play a pre recorded clip on a WhatsApp video call? I'm calling it a scam but not with certainty.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...6-470bf07fa350

**HawkJock** · 12-05-23 14:47

Originally Posted by AdmirerSecret [View Original Post]

Hello Guys,

How you guys take risk of havin sex with bare with unknown? Do you guys ask them test results and share the same or its all guts?

If smell tells girl has a some aids or bad disease. Maybe she is ovulating who knows. I scared to do bare, something I don't want to catch because it does not have cure.

One more question any guys went out with trans? Just curious 🧐.

You seen pics and read the profiles of the trans here in the US? I've not seen one that isn't ugly af, nor one that isn't extreme fringe people that are more interested in making a statement than living out an identity. I suspect they live a very promiscuous life that would jeopardize the health and sanity of anyone that gets tangled up with them. Now. I've seen some profiles in Brazil, Colombia, and Europe (usually of Latin origin) that I would consider meeting in a very public place to see if they are genuine or extreme fringe types.

**LouisHernandez** · 12-05-23 13:15

Originally Posted by DoctorSugar [View Original Post]

Shyanallen69 got my number and hit me up with "please help" in her second text. I blocked her number. YYMV, but I assume someone asking for money right away is a scam and not worth the time it would take for more texting.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...c-b143e8585981

Next time respond "Call 911".

**Member #7066** · 12-05-23 09:39

Originally Posted by MacLuvin [View Original Post]

It's one of those things where you have to just be smart and weight the risks. Get regular testing, and you can't always guarantee they do. I've never asked for proof. Generally the girls on SA that aren't pros are low volume so less chance of catching something, and you can usually tell by how the conversations go, etc if they are high volume pros or just coeds looking for a long term SD. Otherwise, you really just don't know aside from physical appearance down there and odor. Now, as far a trans, no way. Aids / HIV has a much higher transmission rate with anal / homosexual / trans people. I know the stats show high rates in the Atlanta area, but you have to break those statistics down by demographic too and type of sex. Oral or vaginal = much lower chances of transmission statistically. Anal is way up there so be careful with that.

Now of course you have a lot of other STIs out there besides Aids, but since that was brought up, here are the statistics readily available online for Aids transmission % by type of sex:.

Wow, thanks for dropping those stats! Honestly, I never really took the time to look them up, and I guess I've been assuming that all sexual activities carry the same risks.

**Doctor Sugar** · 12-05-23 06:14

Shyanallen69 got my number and hit me up with "please help" in her second text. I blocked her number. YYMV, but I assume someone asking for money right away is a scam and not worth the time it would take for more texting.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...c-b143e8585981

**Jims2321** · 12-04-23 18:56

And yet another picture seller / scammer. Gives you the old story, single mom, out of work, will sell you nudes.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...9-3c7f7d28711a

Stay Safe,

JimS2321.

**SeekingHead** · 12-03-23 19:08

Originally Posted by JunkSecond [View Original Post]

Thanks for that reply, you beat me to a data and fact based reply but CDC reading along with checking for obvious other risk factors is how I overcame my fear.

There are a couple reports out on aids transmission in sub saharan Africa on men who have been circumcised vs. Uncircumcised. Basically the reports couldn't find a circumcised male who had contracted aids via vaginal intercourse or oral sex, there are uncircumsized men who have contracted aids via vaginal intercouse on record. All of them who contracted Aids reporting also having oral sex which is why you see reports reporting HIV being passed via oral sex.