Non Pro's

[Member #6729]

Honestly valid, just didn't think you all were forking out money just to send messages. I don't have a problem dropping cash on these girls, but I definitely would want a return on investment LOL.

The ROI is much better on SA if you have a normal amount of game or just a decent human being in general. I mean sometimes 2+ hours with these girls all holes open and they don't act like complete skanks, (although 99% of pro girls have been great to me LOL) but SA is a numbers game in the messaging. And have boundaries. They know what they're there for, and you do as well.

[PoonHound1969]

Honestly valid, just didn't think you all were forking out money just to send messages. I don't have a problem dropping cash on these girls, but I definitely would want a return on investment LOL.

Yes, the only way to message is through a paid premium.

[Marko Ramius]

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She has borderline personality, probably soon to be homeless.

Probably half to two thirds of the girls I meet off of SA have mental health issues of one sort or another. I don't know if you can extrapolate that to society in general (although a lot of people these days are obviously messed up) or if SA or SB is just where a girl is likely to land if she is too dysfunctional to work at a strip club or escort.

I've been doing the sugaring thing off and on for about fifteen years. It seems to me that there are more girls who are seriously fucked up in the head these days than there were before. But that is a small sample size and there were no shortage of nutjobs when I started doing this in 2008 and 2009.

Recently I was in communications with an (apparently) pretty cute 20 yo off of SB. We were chatting on text and basically it came down to she wasn't willing to meet, or wasn't willing to meet very often, or could only meet for ten or fifteen minutes at a time. She said this was because of her severe anxiety and panic attacks when she was in public. On the other hand she was polite and respectful when I politely explained to her that there was no way any money was going to change hands unless we met in the flesh. Also it was pretty obvious that her expectations for compensation were outside of my comfort zone. Blocked and moved on.

[Papicho]

She is a scammer, run away from her as far as you can. I met her at a restaurant. After dinner, she wanted to go to QFC to get a oral test kit and requested money. I obliged, gave her 200 (stupid I know) and told her I would be coming with her. However, I couldn't find the parking easily and let her go into the store alone as there were other cars behind honking at me and I was nervous.

By the time I parked my car, I was sure it was a scam. Lo and behold I got this exact message from her after 5 minutes.

I left out the back door, I parked in the qfcparking lot and am on my way home, I'm sorry but I am fleeing from a DV situation and needed the help. I live in south Tacoma and it is going to be a two hour drive, I'm so sorry. I don't want to waste anymore of your time, thank you for the donation. You saved me and my kid.

In hindsight, there were lot of red flags but I ignored as I was new to this experience.

She also asked me for money after the restaurant I told her no money until I see you naked, she bailed.

She has borderline personality, probably soon to be homeless.

[Member #6729]

Hello fellow mongers. I'm trying to get more into the non pro game, but I can't seem to figure out how to use SA without spending my entire paycheck. Do you all really fork out that kinda $$ for sending messages? If anyone could help / pm me some info on how to get started or what I'm doing wrong I'd be willing to trade a few numbers I got from some "pros" in the bb forum.

SA you just pay the one time fee of $ninety to send as many messages as you want per month. If ninety buckets is your entire paycheck, you're shit out of luck. If ninety bones is your entire paycheck, putang should be the last thing on your mind. Look over this forum, new guys always expecting the other dudes to keep repeating the same thing over and over because they're too slow in the brain not go a couple pages back.

[Mcrud56]

If you cannot afford the price of admission, you do not want to play in the sugar bowl. Stick with set rate pro's.

Honestly valid, just didn't think you all were forking out money just to send messages. I don't have a problem dropping cash on these girls, but I definitely would want a return on investment LOL.

[RomanticIdiot]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...7-0d02f97c5293

Any have any intel on her? I've gotten some vibes from her that hover around semi-pro, but it's not obvious.

She is a scammer, run away from her as far as you can. I met her at a restaurant. After dinner, she wanted to go to QFC to get a oral test kit and requested money. I obliged, gave her 200 (stupid I know) and told her I would be coming with her. However, I couldn't find the parking easily and let her go into the store alone as there were other cars behind honking at me and I was nervous.

By the time I parked my car, I was sure it was a scam. Lo and behold I got this exact message from her after 5 minutes.

I left out the back door, I parked in the qfcparking lot and am on my way home, I'm sorry but I am fleeing from a DV situation and needed the help. I live in south Tacoma and it is going to be a two hour drive, I'm so sorry. I don't want to waste anymore of your time, thank you for the donation. You saved me and my kid.

In hindsight, there were lot of red flags but I ignored as I was new to this experience.

[PoonHound1969]

Hello fellow mongers. I'm trying to get more into the non pro game, but I can't seem to figure out how to use SA without spending my entire paycheck. Do you all really fork out that kinda $$ for sending messages? If anyone could help / pm me some info on how to get started or what I'm doing wrong I'd be willing to trade a few numbers I got from some "pros" in the bb forum.

If you cannot afford the price of admission, you do not want to play in the sugar bowl. Stick with set rate pro's.

[Mamouna]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...7-0d02f97c5293

Any have any intel on her? I've gotten some vibes from her that hover around semi-pro, but it's not obvious.

She's real. Really nuts. We communicated enough to confirm she is real but I ended up backing out due to her dramatic personality, avg looks (she sent a no make up selfie), and GPS. Wanted $6.5, plus fancy dinner. Sorry I can get FS at an AMP for a fraction of that and no date. And, yes, she makes new profile every time she starts up SA again.

[BoBroBgobs]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...7-0d02f97c5293

Any have any intel on her? I've gotten some vibes from her that hover around semi-pro, but it's not obvious.

I think someone had reviewed her here being some kind of a scam. Couldn't find it as she keeps making new profiles.

[SaladHermit]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...7-0d02f97c5293

Any have any intel on her? I've gotten some vibes from her that hover around semi-pro, but it's not obvious.

[Mcrud56]

Hello fellow mongers. I'm trying to get more into the non pro game, but I can't seem to figure out how to use SA without spending my entire paycheck. Do you all really fork out that kinda $$ for sending messages? If anyone could help / pm me some info on how to get started or what I'm doing wrong I'd be willing to trade a few numbers I got from some "pros" in the bb forum.

[Pawghtr16]

Hey guys, I'll be in the area soon for a bit and was scoping the local talent. I ran across Mia, who peaked my interest. I messaged her and she sent me her number. Has anybody seen her? Feel free to PM me.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...f-c78ef2d2cf92

Wrote a review about her couple months ago. She's pretty stacked, good vibes, pretty chill and laid back. Went two rounds with her, bbfscip. She's definitely DTF. Enjoy if you get a hold of her.

[Zomfg]

I'm at the point in my life where I simply won't waste my time with it, if she's terrible, I just stop her. They are always like, "oh, you're not into that". I don't say anything.

Haha, I usually just say she's too hot so I can't wait anymore and MUST fuck NOW.

[Michael1967]

This is sort of offtopic, but maybe mods will allow. I've seen some pretty average oral skills in the non-pros the past year, especially the under 30 crowd. Some will walk in saying how good they are and it's almost a joke. One technique and, my pet peeve, not very intense (try using with your hands a little more and stop being so goddamn gentle, ladies).

What is a GOOD head game - just say it, or post a link.

I'm sure there are a few amateurs and non-pros who read this thread. Maybe we can help change things, LOL.

EVERY woman thinks she's good at sucking dick because no guy will EVER tell a woman sucking his dick that she's terrible at it. If you cum, then she thinks she did an incredible job. Of course, my hand can make me come too and there isn't anything spectacular about that. Most women are mediocre dick suckers at best. I'm at the point in my life where I simply won't waste my time with it, if she's terrible, I just stop her. They are always like, "oh, you're not into that". I don't say anything.