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  1. #38865
    Quote Originally Posted by TaxiTaxi  [View Original Post]
    I booked Hana from Sesang in September and everything was great. I took a one month break and come back to find pw on booker sites, my fav girls gone or on vacation, and mongers brushing up on criminal defense theory. I see there was a bust but there's no way there's any actual danger right? There's no way this shitty city will dedicate any resources to this while there are homeless assaulting people every day in the streets. I guess it doesn't matter if just the threat alone is enough to scare mongers and providers, I see fewer girls and fewer reviews, so I guess everyone is laying low for a while.

    I thought this was America, so I'm going to go do my patriotic duty and go suck some titties, and if I go down just know that it was an honor serving with you gentlemen.
    Be a BRAVE PATRIOT and serve us with honor: Suck lots of titles for us. Enjoy

  2. #38864
    Quote Originally Posted by OcAmper  [View Original Post]
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiHeat2020  [View Original Post]
    Exactly. What documented information would be enough? The standard of review is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Making an appointment is not enough, right? And I don't think the booker texts with the pricing and locations rules out that you went to chat with the girl like an actual escort or a massage or something else not illegal. I don't think even linking someone to their reviews will be enough because those can be made up and they are just role-playing a fantasy online.
    .

    So, there are two charges that a customer might be prosecuted for, Solicitation and the act of prostitution.

    Not sure how one would be prosecuted for prostitution, unless the lady implicates the customer. If after the fact, that would be much harder. Would LE need to conduct a lineup? The lady sees many customers each day, while she might recall a face, guessing she probably wouldn't unless one was a repeat customer.

    Solicitation. This is easier. Both parties agree to an act for the exchange of money or goods. So, if one is sent a menu of services, or upgrades, like the text LE has, just saying yes is Solicitation. You show up at the door, then an act of furtherance, which pretty much seals the deal for the prosecutor.
    Fair point about solicitation. However- to prove a defendant solicited prostitution, the prosecutor must establish the following:

    The defendant requested that another person engage in an act of prostitution.

    The defendant intended to engage in an act of prostitution with the other person.

    The other person received the communication containing the request.

    "I was going to get a massage" "just wanted to chat" = you don't satisfy at least element 2? Hard to prove intent no? Standard of proof for a crime is beyond reasonable doubt.

  3. #38863
    [QUOTE=MiamiHeat2020;6675865]Exactly. What documented information would be enough? The standard of review is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Making an appointment is not enough, right? And I don't think the booker texts with the pricing and locations rules out that you went to chat with the girl like an actual escort or a massage or something else not illegal. I don't think even linking someone to their reviews will be enough because those can be made up and they are just role-playing a fantasy online. [ / is].

    So, there are two charges that a customer might be prosecuted for, Solicitation and the act of prostitution.

    Not sure how one would be prosecuted for prostitution, unless the lady implicates the customer. If after the fact, that would be much harder. Would LE need to conduct a lineup? The lady sees many customers each day, while she might recall a face, guessing she probably wouldn't unless one was a repeat customer.

    Solicitation. This is easier. Both parties agree to an act for the exchange of money or goods. So, if one is sent a menu of services, or upgrades, like the text LE has, just saying yes is Solicitation. You show up at the door, then an act of furtherance, which pretty much seals the deal for the prosecutor.

  4. #38862
    Quote Originally Posted by KalvinHobbs  [View Original Post]
    LOL highly doubt that would happen. Guess if they were bored and wanted to just ruin some lives for fun.
    Highly doubt? More than 1 local law enforcement has published their success during prostitution stings. Full lists of names, ages and even sometimes pictures. A few local LE still do this currently, a webpage with all that info.

    So, yes, these things happen.

  5. #38861
    Quote Originally Posted by TaxiTaxi  [View Original Post]
    I booked Hana from Sesang in September and everything was great. I took a one month break and come back to find pw on booker sites, my fav girls gone or on vacation, and mongers brushing up on criminal defense theory. I see there was a bust but there's no way there's any actual danger right? There's no way this shitty city will dedicate any resources to this while there are homeless assaulting people every day in the streets. I guess it doesn't matter if just the threat alone is enough to scare mongers and providers, I see fewer girls and fewer reviews, so I guess everyone is laying low for a while.

    I thought this was America, so I'm going to go do my patriotic duty and go suck some titties, and if I go down just know that it was an honor serving with you gentlemen.
    Not to mention home invasion, grand theft auto, retail robbery, street robbery, porch pirate, you name it, we have it.

    If they have the money the state or the feds, spend on something that actually stop violent crimes! For god sake!

    I paid 31% of my income to tax and they use it for none violent crime, SMH.

    Many people losing their job due to store closure, life changing robbery left victims cripple, America has gone to shit, WHERE THE MONEY WENT?

    In another hand, about the reviews, many went on vacation due to the bust and many mongers are laying low.

    So yeah, its a shit show we are living in. BUT I still see my reliable ATFs so that's that.

  6. #38860

    What'd I miss?

    I booked Hana from Sesang in September and everything was great. I took a one month break and come back to find pw on booker sites, my fav girls gone or on vacation, and mongers brushing up on criminal defense theory. I see there was a bust but there's no way there's any actual danger right? There's no way this shitty city will dedicate any resources to this while there are homeless assaulting people every day in the streets. I guess it doesn't matter if just the threat alone is enough to scare mongers and providers, I see fewer girls and fewer reviews, so I guess everyone is laying low for a while.

    I thought this was America, so I'm going to go do my patriotic duty and go suck some titties, and if I go down just know that it was an honor serving with you gentlemen.

  7. #38859

    Gia, Baby Chu

    So, I saw Gia / Gia3. I'm 95% sure she's the same Piper / Ara from years ago back from up north. We discussed as much. Memory a little foggy and I'm not good with faces but I think was same one. For those who don't know, she's likely mid 40's, big hard bad man made bolt ons. Pretty decent DT but she doesn't take it 100% of the way. You're probably not going to be face fucking like the movies or anything. Somewhat larger lady like a mama san albeit far from fat.

    Baby Chu isn't 18. She isn't 20. More like 24 or 25, at best. Bigger bones albet, nice torso but strange looking with her wide shoulders. Has that Japan girl thing with the large calfs and thighs. Youthful ish boobs. Larger butt. Hairy. Not the best hygiene. Not the best service. Not 100 lbs. More like 130-140 (she sat on me for massage. Petite spinner, she is not / definitely doesn't live up to the 'baby' moniker). Oh, and BTW, no cim.

  8. #38858
    Quote Originally Posted by CityboysUp  [View Original Post]
    Pretty much it. What likely happened was they intimidated some mongers into snitching on themselves and those mongers gave up more information and likely turned informant.

    Unless they actually catch you in a sting operation or have explicit text messages / emails (if you're dumb enough to do this, that's on you), they don't have enough information to substantiate a case. But if they intimidate you and you voluntarily give up information, then yeah they have a case. If you're not being detained, walk. If they say you're under arrest, they're full of shit, tell them you don't speak without a lawyer present.

    Even giving up personally identifiable information is not enough to make a claim. They next to get one of the following: a confession, documented evidence, or to catch you in the act / solicitation.

    I suspect most of those implicated gave up information out of fear and not knowing what to do.
    Exactly. What documented information would be enough? The standard of review is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Making an appointment is not enough, right? And I don't think the booker texts with the pricing and locations rules out that you went to chat with the girl like an actual escort or a massage or something else not illegal. I don't think even linking someone to their reviews will be enough because those can be made up and they are just role-playing a fantasy online.

  9. #38857
    Quote Originally Posted by KalvinHobbs  [View Original Post]
    LOL yea of the people they bust, was 3 this time around. Going after the hundreds of clients on the list doubt it. No bust will be there. All the govt officials and what not they claim, not likely IMO. We can just agree to disagree.

    Was reading the Boston forum and they mentioned this happens to a few other orgs already. Thoes that were shut down nothing happened to clients. Maybe since they're closer to WH it gets looked at more.
    Pretty much it. What likely happened was they intimidated some mongers into snitching on themselves and those mongers gave up more information and likely turned informant.

    Unless they actually catch you in a sting operation or have explicit text messages / emails (if you're dumb enough to do this, that's on you), they don't have enough information to substantiate a case. But if they intimidate you and you voluntarily give up information, then yeah they have a case. If you're not being detained, walk. If they say you're under arrest, they're full of shit, tell them you don't speak without a lawyer present.

    Even giving up personally identifiable information is not enough to make a claim. They next to get one of the following: a confession, documented evidence, or to catch you in the act / solicitation.

    I suspect most of those implicated gave up information out of fear and not knowing what to do.

  10. #38856

    Being Safe is good

    But I want to know which girl to sample now.

    Any info on Joan? Hana?

    Stay safe.

  11. #38855
    Quote Originally Posted by DankDonk  [View Original Post]
    Respectfully yena looks nowhere near as young, tight, sexy, or pretty as this pic. Amazing BJ skills but I would guess she's late 30's to early 40's.
    In term of overall appearance, trust me that you will be disappointed when you meet Baby Yena in person! She is the girl in photo but add 10-15 years to the age. If I had to guess, I will say that she is 38-42 age range and her body is not that great either.

  12. #38854

    PSA to save some confusion

    Little PSA from my recent experience so that no one else gets stuck outside, when I visited Chu recently the call box was broken. Chu threw me her key fob out of her window and I had to find it on the ground and then use it on the door to get in. Actually I still couldn't figure out how to get in until someone happened to be leaving the building because it wasn't clear that you were supposed to use the fob on the callbox. Hope this can save someone some wasted time and confusion.

  13. #38853
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  14. #38852
    Kbliss Sunday fun listing.

    Viki Iris BabyYuna Maia Juni.

  15. #38851
    Quote Originally Posted by SfoDavid67  [View Original Post]
    That is actually their whole point, they want to ruin your life and embarrass you. Do you think they just publish the names, photos of guys they bust for fun? No, they want the world to know you pay women for sex. Just google prostitution stings and you will see they love to publish mugshots and names.
    LOL yea of the people they bust, was 3 this time around. Going after the hundreds of clients on the list doubt it. No bust will be there. All the govt officials and what not they claim, not likely IMO. We can just agree to disagree.

    Was reading the Boston forum and they mentioned this happens to a few other orgs already. Thoes that were shut down nothing happened to clients. Maybe since they're closer to WH it gets looked at more.

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