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  1. #4376

    It Only Takes One

    The problem remains that it only takes one monger pooping himself to bust the agency. For all we know, cops could have tried to turn 500 guys and only gotten actionable intel from like the 20 ish they referenced in the document. The important part for every guy is to understand that you are a individual in the case. They can't tie others actions to yourself. The only way they can arrest you is if you they have cameras in the room when you do the deed (and even that might be questionable since most of the girls don't even look at the envelope, though it seems like the new J-girls are more like to do it since it's something done in Japan). Don't text explicit stuff and even put in some text about "enjoying the time talking about work" or something for some plausible deniability on your side.

    This can't save you from LE going rogue and outing you to your family or something, but you should always be aware what constitutes evidence for arrest. LE going out of their way to out you to your family is a whole different story, and one that may even be a legal case you can push for unlawful activity on their part.

  2. #4375

    Video. Don't Talk to the Police

    Excellent lecture from Law Professor James Duane. Well worth the watch.

    https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE?si=4AZvUzz2JuSQ_qHA

  3. #4374
    Quote Originally Posted by BravoFox  [View Original Post]
    Rebrands, new crews, websites and locations should do the trick. No way human trafficking sticks. All the girls I have seen took this as a job like any other, but this one pays a lot more. Thinking this has to do with Politics and elections right now. By next year it's going to be all about Fentanyl crisis.
    My friend is an FBI agent and he confirmed, this reads like a corruption case with FBI saying "look we did a thing" right before election season ramps up. He thinks local PD, politicians, high profile people might face pressure to resign or be exposed, but it's unlikely anything happens with the full black book.

    Side note, seems like APC and BO websites down. I'm guessing they did this just to lay low for now?

  4. #4373

    Waiting Game

    How long do you all think the agencies will be on vacation? My guess is they'll be back after Thanksgiving.

  5. #4372
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1978

    A couple of thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by DCHung  [View Original Post]
    Never lie.

    And remember the script.

    THE POT BROTHERS AT LAW FAMOUS SCRIPT.

    "Why did you pull me over?

    (When they ask questions like where are you going? Where are you coming from? What is that smell?

    "I'm not discussing my day. ".

    "Am I being detained or am I free to go?" (If you are being detained, invoke the 5th amendment.).

    " I invoke the fifth".
    IMHO, it's important to strike a good balance between asserting your rights and avoiding unnecessary confrontation with LE. That's simply because a pissed off cop is more likely to go out of their way to screw with you. You might be 100% correct, but they have 1000 different ways to f*ck with you.

    I saw one idea I thought was pretty good. It suggested adopting a faux-confused attitude, as though you don't understand what's going on. Then, because you're so "confused," you tell the cops that you feel like you should talk to a lawyer before talking to them. The "L" word invokes the 6th amendment, which should be a (less confrontational, IMO) trigger for the questioning to stop. If LE persists, continue being "confused" and apologetic, while remaining firm about wanting to talk to an atty first. Just my two-cents' worth.

  6. #4371
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1978

    Agencies vs Indies

    Quote Originally Posted by SaintPolycarp  [View Original Post]
    Eros.com has over 98 high-end prostitutes available only in DC area right at this moment and with Tryst 114! These bitches have the real list of the most powerful figures of the United States of America! But MTF Feds don't persue these bitches, fucking bigots! Let us watch how this circus show will be ended!
    Most, if not all, of the women on Eros and Tryst are independents. It's harder to make a trafficking case against indies, and "trafficking" is a ready gateway for the feds to get involved.

    Also, I don't think these cases are about specifically targeting providers who might have high-profile client lists. It seems to me that the article is simply pointing out what prosecutors are likely to do when such a list falls into their hands.

    I know this thread is dedicated to agencies, but I made the point in the News and Media thread that (IMO) independent providers are a safer way to go.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6672253

  7. #4370

    Template game

    Quote Originally Posted by DCHung  [View Original Post]
    Never lie.

    And remember the script.

    THE POT BROTHERS AT LAW FAMOUS SCRIPT.

    "Why did you pull me over?

    (When they ask questions like where are you going? Where are you coming from? What is that smell?

    "I'm not discussing my day. ".

    "Am I being detained or am I free to go?" (If you are being detained, invoke the 5th amendment.).

    " I invoke the fifth".
    This is universal protocol to avoid any dramas; thanks hung.

  8. #4369

    Bullshit!

    Eros.com has over 98 high-end prostitutes available only in DC area right at this moment and with Tryst 114! These bitches have the real list of the most powerful figures of the United States of America! But MTF Feds don't persue these bitches, fucking bigots! Let us watch how this circus show will be ended!


  9. #4368
    Quote Originally Posted by DS080  [View Original Post]
    Are APC and BO closed? Or are they operational still and just websites are down? I've seen BO reports on TER posted just yesterday, which makes me think they're still up and running. Maybe they're allowing only limited clients to enter?
    Also curious, hopefully they are taking a break.

    Have to start hunting for new ones now.

  10. #4367
    Senior Member


    Posts: 204
    Are APC and BO closed? Or are they operational still and just websites are down? I've seen BO reports on TER posted just yesterday, which makes me think they're still up and running. Maybe they're allowing only limited clients to enter?

  11. #4366
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1978

    New article re the agency bust situation


  12. #4365
    Senior Member


    Posts: 2142

    Remember the script

    Never lie.

    And remember the script.

    THE POT BROTHERS AT LAW FAMOUS SCRIPT.

    "Why did you pull me over?

    (When they ask questions like where are you going? Where are you coming from? What is that smell?

    "I'm not discussing my day. ".

    "Am I being detained or am I free to go?" (If you are being detained, invoke the 5th amendment.).

    " I invoke the fifth".

  13. #4364
    Quote Originally Posted by JimRob  [View Original Post]
    I went to this place back in Jan 2022, I didn't have to give them my pii, I got verified from ter and JJ club. I found an old text I sent them.

    Thank you. She's great, dude outside in car made me so nervous and man in lobby. They had a fed look to be them I was nervous I almost left. But they left when I was done. Maybe I was Too paranoid.

    And they responded with.

    No worry no one knows. Thanks .

    I've learned never give your private info. Stay safe gentle mongers but even back then I think the place was being watched.
    Usually you don't need to give PII if you a reliable agency to vouch for you. But most OG like DS probably won't take BG JJ or BO as a reference since they are so easy to get in. Also member shouldn't bring post the exact building where these agency are. All we have to do is give out the city name. My guess is fed was digging into the dude that did the fraud COVID relief program and stumble on the agency. Just follow the money.

  14. #4363

    What a drag

    "Prosecutors love to go after high-level folks because they can make a name for themselves," Mr. Rahmani said.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ohns-after-bu/

  15. #4362

    Happy together

    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto88  [View Original Post]
    Their websites are down.
    Website has them "on vacation". Hmm.

    Happytogetherva.com

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