Massage Parlor Reports

[Spectator]

Any "generic " legal advice doesn't go that far. Say nothing except I respectfully decline to talk to you as is my right. Am I being detained or am I free to go. That's it. In some states they may be able to ask for I'd if your on foot. In every state if your operating a motor vehicle. Otherwise keep your mouth shut and if your not detained move on.

The hard part is saying any of this without sounding like a jerk, which might cause them to do stupid stuff like detain you for 24 hours (knowing you'll be released without charges), or charging you with a summons even tho they don't have a case, but then you got to get a lawyer and go to court (happened to me). The hard part of all this is saying nothing and not making them want to stick it to you. The legal process, even if they know at stage 1 they have no case, is expensive and is punishment in and of itself, which is why being nice is as important as not saying anything. The DA knows they sent him the case just to make you hire a lawyer, and will simply let you pay your attorney to prepare for trial, and then not show up. Costs you 10 grand

[Spectator]

Don't lie to the police. It's illegal to lie to the FBI, and a bad idea to lie to regular cops. If you lie, then are caught out on it, you can't walk back a lie later and be expected to be believed. You've lied once, who's to say you're not lying again? Best course of action (after asking "Am I free to go? Is to not answer questions, but say something like "I decline to answer any questions without my lawyer present". Also, for the 5th amendment to apply, you must explicitly invoke it; simply remaining silent does not invoke the protections it offers.

"I got a massage, I have a sore back" is not a lie.

"did you <insert illegal act here> " . No officer, I did not do anything illegal. Am I free to go?

It is important to be prepared mentally in case these situations arise (as they did for me very recently). It is frightening in the moment and easy to start blabbing nervously.

If the police are asking you questions that seem to be trying to confirm something they don't know, don't give them anything, and don't be a jerk. Just be polite, say the truth that you got a backrub, and don't admit anything.

If they ask you to come down to the station there is only one answer "I will not answer questions without a lawyer" , this will cost you real money, but it will help you obtain, as my attorney said "The best possible outcome".

It is sad that the US has not decriminialized backrubs.

[KatSuno1492]

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2. LEO: "Did you engage in sexual act? (did you get a happy ending)".

YOU:"no, I don't think this is that kind of place. ".

LEO:"so you got a blowjob for $120".

YOU:"no".
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Don't lie to the police. It's illegal to lie to the FBI, and a bad idea to lie to regular cops. If you lie, then are caught out on it, you can't walk back a lie later and be expected to be believed. You've lied once, who's to say you're not lying again? Best course of action (after asking "Am I free to go? Is to not answer questions, but say something like "I decline to answer any questions without my lawyer present". Also, for the 5th amendment to apply, you must explicitly invoke it; simply remaining silent does not invoke the protections it offers.

[Delanojjjj]

I'm going to be in and around the Cambridge area with some time to kill. Was thinking about stopping in at foot heaven. Us. Does anyone have any encouraging information that would help me want to stop by there?

If not I'll probably just go ahead and take a hit and see what happens.

If I go I'll report back soon.

[PaulRew]

I have a hard time feeling bad for the uber-rich mongers that clearly felt like they're untouchable. They gave personal info and paid monthly fees to stay with the agency. Shame on them and let's keep the prices from more inflation for us little guys!

Actually I need to avoid a flag on this one so see you on the Massholes thread.

[FrogPilot]

I got stopped last year in Middleton when they were in the middle of cracking down on basically all of the AMP there. When the cop came to my window, he said he was pulling me over because I had a line violation at the intersection. (BS tactic.) But after he got my license and registration, the conversation quickly turned to him seeing me pull out of one of the AMPs. As suggested, I was friendly and just kept on repeating I was there for a legitimate massage and had been doing so for years. He assured me that there was lots of illegal activity going on there, but I assured him right back that I had never seen any evidence of that. Still, I told him since he was positive of that I was not going to be going back there again. Finally, after asking the same questions over and over, and knowing he wasn't going to get anything out of me, he let me go with a verbal warning. That was the last time I stepped foot in middleton. Getting stopped like that was something I had dreaded happening for 10 years. However, I was proud of myself with how relaxed I remained and sticking to not knowing anything. Z

Good job Z, many of these cases I read about are built at least in part on mongers ratting on themselves and the spa, just want to add a reminder that cops will lie too and imply shit like if you tell them what they want to know they'll make sure your name is left out of it, as others have said, say nothing, you can only make it worse, not better, there is nothing illegal about visiting a business, leave it that.

[Zimmm33]

I got stopped last year in Middleton when they were in the middle of cracking down on basically all of the AMP there. When the cop came to my window, he said he was pulling me over because I had a line violation at the intersection. (BS tactic.) But after he got my license and registration, the conversation quickly turned to him seeing me pull out of one of the AMPs. As suggested, I was friendly and just kept on repeating I was there for a legitimate massage and had been doing so for years. He assured me that there was lots of illegal activity going on there, but I assured him right back that I had never seen any evidence of that. Still, I told him since he was positive of that I was not going to be going back there again. Finally, after asking the same questions over and over, and knowing he wasn't going to get anything out of me, he let me go with a verbal warning. That was the last time I stepped foot in middleton. Getting stopped like that was something I had dreaded happening for 10 years. However, I was proud of myself with how relaxed I remained and sticking to not knowing anything. Z

1. Be friendly, tell them you are running late for your next appointment or whatever. Ask if you are free to go.

2. LEO: "Did you engage in sexual act? (did you get a happy ending)".

YOU:"no, I don't think this is that kind of place. ".

LEO:"so you got a blowjob for $120".

YOU:"no".

LEO: "make this easier on yourself and your wife".

YOU: "Nothing to hide, got a massage, my back hurts".

LEO "We have you on video".

YOU "Call my lawyer, I'd like him to look at this alleged video".

Dont freak out, Be polite, admit nothing, don't tell long stories or tell tales. They will make all kinds of threats. At this point your wife is already likely to find out that you got a massage because your back hurts.. Telling them anything only makes it harder for your lawyer.

As nervous as you may be during the process, remember they have what they have on you, and you don't know what that is, so your only job right there in that uncomfortable moment is not to give them anything they can use against you. Be honest and tell them you got a nice back rub leave as quickly as possible no matter what they say or how awful you feel in the moment.

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[Sounds]

1. Be friendly, tell them you are running late for your next appointment or whatever. Ask if you are free to go.

2. LEO: "Did you engage in sexual act? (did you get a happy ending)".

YOU:"no, I don't think this is that kind of place. ".

LEO:"so you got a blowjob for $120".

YOU:"no".

LEO: "make this easier on yourself and your wife".

YOU: "Nothing to hide, got a massage, my back hurts".

LEO "We have you on video".

YOU "Call my lawyer, I'd like him to look at this alleged video".

Dont freak out, Be polite, admit nothing, don't tell long stories or tell tales. They will make all kinds of threats. At this point your wife is already likely to find out that you got a massage because your back hurts.. Telling them anything only makes it harder for your lawyer.

As nervous as you may be during the process, remember they have what they have on you, and you don't know what that is, so your only job right there in that uncomfortable moment is not to give them anything they can use against you. Be honest and tell them you got a nice back rub leave as quickly as possible no matter what they say or how awful you feel in the moment.

Don't even engage in any type of conversation. Just say you are not discussing anything. Ask if you are free to go and if not, ask for a lawyer.

[HappyDave]

1. Be friendly, tell them you are running late for your next appointment or whatever. Ask if you are free to go.

2. LEO: "Did you engage in sexual act? (did you get a happy ending)".

YOU:"no, I don't think this is that kind of place. ".

LEO:"so you got a blowjob for $120".

YOU:"no".

LEO: "make this easier on yourself and your wife".

YOU: "Nothing to hide, got a massage, my back hurts".

LEO "We have you on video".

YOU "Call my lawyer, I'd like him to look at this alleged video".

Dont freak out, Be polite, admit nothing, don't tell long stories or tell tales. They will make all kinds of threats. At this point your wife is already likely to find out that you got a massage because your back hurts.. Telling them anything only makes it harder for your lawyer..

Any "generic " legal advice doesn't go that far. Say nothing except I respectfully decline to talk to you as is my right. Am I being detained or am I free to go. That's it. In some states they may be able to ask for I'd if your on foot. In every state if your operating a motor vehicle. Otherwise keep your mouth shut and if your not detained move on.

[No Cheater]

Been driving by this place on my way home from work. Decided to stop in. Place looks very clean. Girl behind desk was beautiful. Asked for half hour. Rooms are big and the table is super comfortable. She doesn't speak much English but she made up for it with a great massage and ending. Will definitely be going back for more with her. There are metered parking right out front of a parking lot just down the street. I was lucky enough to score a spot right out front. One dollar in coins gets you plenty of time. They have an APP for using your CC but I don't want any record of my parking habits.

Thanks for the tip about 709 Washington St. Everything was as Bishop said. Very clean and fresh place. Easy parking. I saw Jenny for a nice massage and left relaxed. I found her quite attractive, very young and sexy. She said the place is under new management. I will definitely return.

[Spectator]

1. Be friendly, tell them you are running late for your next appointment or whatever. Ask if you are free to go.

2. LEO: "Did you engage in sexual act? (did you get a happy ending)".

YOU:"no, I don't think this is that kind of place. ".

LEO:"so you got a blowjob for $120".

YOU:"no".

LEO: "make this easier on yourself and your wife".

YOU: "Nothing to hide, got a massage, my back hurts".

LEO "We have you on video".

YOU "Call my lawyer, I'd like him to look at this alleged video".

Dont freak out, Be polite, admit nothing, don't tell long stories or tell tales. They will make all kinds of threats. At this point your wife is already likely to find out that you got a massage because your back hurts.. Telling them anything only makes it harder for your lawyer.

As nervous as you may be during the process, remember they have what they have on you, and you don't know what that is, so your only job right there in that uncomfortable moment is not to give them anything they can use against you. Be honest and tell them you got a nice back rub leave as quickly as possible no matter what they say or how awful you feel in the moment.

[ThizzleHats]

How much are we talking? Hand magic the same rates as FS? I don't mind spending extra. But not like 200. That's Mandela's rates. LOL.

Its like $100 for HE and $160 CBJ with saran wrap last I checked.

[WarEagle1996]

Paul. Apologies if my wording was too insensitive. First my experience in this forum pales in comparison with yours, second I've always tried to add direct value versus engaging in unnecessary back and forth, third provider prices keep going up (including all options), fourth most of us don't have the means like the mongers on BTT, tryst, Eros and similar sites (I wish I did but unfortunately don't make that much money) and therefore would like myself and others to hold the line on prices (including all options) if BTT-type mongers and others start to shift their interests elsewhere. This in no way whatsoever means that I don't feel bad for the registered BTT monger database that may be at risk for future prosecution (and subsequent family and employment consequences) if they've provided personally sensitive information.

Fly.

I have a hard time feeling bad for the uber-rich mongers that clearly felt like they're untouchable. They gave personal info and paid monthly fees to stay with the agency. Shame on them and let's keep the prices from more inflation for us little guys!

[Flyguy1980]

So the BTT guys are sweating about getting outed in public and possibly losing jobs, families etc. and you are worried that your next HJ may cost more?

I am filing this one in the " Out of touch" folder.

Paul. Apologies if my wording was too insensitive. First my experience in this forum pales in comparison with yours, second I've always tried to add direct value versus engaging in unnecessary back and forth, third provider prices keep going up (including all options), fourth most of us don't have the means like the mongers on BTT, tryst, Eros and similar sites (I wish I did but unfortunately don't make that much money) and therefore would like myself and others to hold the line on prices (including all options) if BTT-type mongers and others start to shift their interests elsewhere. This in no way whatsoever means that I don't feel bad for the registered BTT monger database that may be at risk for future prosecution (and subsequent family and employment consequences) if they've provided personally sensitive information.

Fly.

[TheIslandBear]

Relatively new to the page, not new to the AMP's. Looking to find another AMP in the area besides blue in Danvers. CBJ doesn't do it for me. Trying to try some new spots.