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  1. #38781

    Cindy

    So I've seen most of the well reviewed BBFS girls over the last 10 years. I've pretty much always have a good experience, using the data gathered from this board, and The Erotic site. I've almost never been disappointed using this method (I never use pics, I ignore them, they are all fake). Recently Cindy was an exception. Not the looks I expected, nor the performance. I ended up wondering if I had been bait and switched. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't great, not what I expected. So. I'm curious, does the real Cindy have a fairly large tattoo on her forearm? That's the only tattoo I saw.

  2. #38780

    ?

    What is this, the True Crime detective channel? Let's get back to our regularly scheduled program guys. Jesus. Creampies man, just creampies!

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWally  [View Original Post]
    I'll step through the affidavit:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

    On page 2, it says James Lee, of Torrance, California "JAMES" On Page 34, it shows his 3 California driver's licenses he used.

    On page 41 it first mentions the informant "CS". It clearly states CS has been cooperating since 2020, and that in Spring 2023 she learned of a new shop planned for New Jersey by a 4th party referred to as "sister" (the affidavit clarifies this is not a literal sister LOL). That "sister" then consulted with someone in Boston. The affidavit says 'in sum and substance' that is Hana. CS asked a question on how to get a straw man to sign the lease. Hana then referred CS to James Lee. James Lee got paid $1000 a month to be a straw man leaser (apparently per apartment), plus expenses like utilities. CS then helped the DOJ place the recorded phone call to James where he explained all the details.

    BTW Hana had just under a million in her bank account, so she was not in want of money but probably just helping out by referring CS. This is a cautionary tale. After her 2nd or 3rd shop and first half million, Hana should have said "go find your own straw man I have no idea what you're talking about". DOJ clarifies they needed a Korean translator for the phone call with James.

    In terms of game theory, the ideal strategy is not to get too greedy. The DOJ wants to record evidence of new crimes, rather than go back in time and get just the paper work of old crimes. It's more than ten times less work. They didn't even bother apart from research on how to get the new evidence they want. So as I've said, a cell like nature is the only way to go. Want to set up a new shop, at some point you need a new straw renter. Don't use James past 2 or 3 units. The downside is you don't know they're reliable the new straw man is and they could slip up, but the reality is you do not want to be connected to a network that can be rolled.

    There are some small non-Korean agencies that have no discernable network like the K-orgs. I.e. the girls they use don't show up regularly at other agencies. Harder to run but on the upside only people in SD have ever mentioned their girls, so they are doing something right. Not saying they are safe, but they don't have the problem of being connected to another agency.

    Another user noted how the DOJ backhandedly said they are not prosecuting prostitution charges because that is the state's responsibility and they have no jurisdiction. The investigation is ongoing and the state is welcome to do that. The charges in this case are for pimping (enticing someone to travel for sex work), which is a serious federal offense. Prostitution varies from state to state and in California for example, it is a misdemeanor. Embarrassing but not the same. State charges more often than not are simply dropped (but not federal). The exact stat was about 60% dropped.

    Each year, about .05% of prostitution acts lead to arrests, according to publicly available statistics (which at best are estimates when it comes to prostitution acts). So 1 in 2000, with the lion's share being stings. If you're on your 35th girl, you are 965 more away from hitting the halfway point, at which time you should be sweating or dead happy of a heart attack from 1000 women. The risk is always there no one is saying otherwise.

    The smart thing to do for officials is to trumpet their successful cases in the media, which they do. They are just doing their job, nothing personal. Of course, if DOJ officials or secret service agents are caught up, they are "punished by HR" and interviewed for evidence, but they just don't normally prosecute their own. I've seen a lot of cases and tried hard to find one where they did. I'm sure it's happened in the last 50 years but I always look and am disappointed.

  3. #38779
    Your review is appreciated. You may want to see Momo K first because the other girls will still be around but she may not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garwu  [View Original Post]
    ...Current list to see: Elle, baby Chu, baby Lucy, baby Cherry, Daphne, Momo K, Seol A.

    List goes on but think I've already written too much. Will report back if there's interest. Thanks again.

  4. #38778
    The affidavit was an interesting read. I only did a quick scan. I always thought cell like nature was the way to go. I was surprised how much paper trail those 3 left. Web operators, phone operators, owners, lease holders, etc, should have as minimal interaction as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWally  [View Original Post]
    I'll step through the affidavit:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

    ...So as I've said, a cell like nature is the only way to go...

  5. #38777

  6. #38776
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    Are you speculating? I can even guess who the Kgirl informant is and who Torrance man might have been. I am saying by releasing all this info, all known associates with them will be on high alert now. We will see but it's less likely to affect mongers. The owners will be the first to go. With so many bookers, it will take informants to point out the owners who control the money.
    I'll step through the affidavit:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

    On page 2, it says James Lee, of Torrance, California "JAMES" On Page 34, it shows his 3 California driver's licenses he used.

    On page 41 it first mentions the informant "CS". It clearly states CS has been cooperating since 2020, and that in Spring 2023 she learned of a new shop planned for New Jersey by a 4th party referred to as "sister" (the affidavit clarifies this is not a literal sister LOL). That "sister" then consulted with someone in Boston. The affidavit says 'in sum and substance' that is Hana. CS asked a question on how to get a straw man to sign the lease. Hana then referred CS to James Lee. James Lee got paid $1000 a month to be a straw man leaser (apparently per apartment), plus expenses like utilities. CS then helped the DOJ place the recorded phone call to James where he explained all the details.

    BTW Hana had just under a million in her bank account, so she was not in want of money but probably just helping out by referring CS. This is a cautionary tale. After her 2nd or 3rd shop and first half million, Hana should have said "go find your own straw man I have no idea what you're talking about". DOJ clarifies they needed a Korean translator for the phone call with James.

    In terms of game theory, the ideal strategy is not to get too greedy. The DOJ wants to record evidence of new crimes, rather than go back in time and get just the paper work of old crimes. It's more than ten times less work. They didn't even bother apart from research on how to get the new evidence they want. So as I've said, a cell like nature is the only way to go. Want to set up a new shop, at some point you need a new straw renter. Don't use James past 2 or 3 units. The downside is you don't know they're reliable the new straw man is and they could slip up, but the reality is you do not want to be connected to a network that can be rolled.

    There are some small non-Korean agencies that have no discernable network like the K-orgs. I.e. the girls they use don't show up regularly at other agencies. Harder to run but on the upside only people in SD have ever mentioned their girls, so they are doing something right. Not saying they are safe, but they don't have the problem of being connected to another agency.

    Another user noted how the DOJ backhandedly said they are not prosecuting prostitution charges because that is the state's responsibility and they have no jurisdiction. The investigation is ongoing and the state is welcome to do that. The charges in this case are for pimping (enticing someone to travel for sex work), which is a serious federal offense. Prostitution varies from state to state and in California for example, it is a misdemeanor. Embarrassing but not the same. State charges more often than not are simply dropped (but not federal). The exact stat was about 60% dropped.

    Each year, about .05% of prostitution acts lead to arrests, according to publicly available statistics (which at best are estimates when it comes to prostitution acts). So 1 in 2000, with the lion's share being stings. If you're on your 35th girl, you are 965 more away from hitting the halfway point, at which time you should be sweating or dead happy of a heart attack from 1000 women. The risk is always there no one is saying otherwise.

    The smart thing to do for officials is to trumpet their successful cases in the media, which they do. They are just doing their job, nothing personal. Of course, if DOJ officials or secret service agents are caught up, they are "punished by HR" and interviewed for evidence, but they just don't normally prosecute their own. I've seen a lot of cases and tried hard to find one where they did. I'm sure it's happened in the last 50 years but I always look and am disappointed.

  7. #38775

    Don't go too deep

    Just be the charity, donate, Fk and go home. Don't try to go too deep or getting too details into this bois. It ain't good for you or your life, live simple, pay and go home.

    Just my 2 cent advi, as how I roll through out the years.

    This is not your life, this is just a hobby.

  8. #38774

    SSG Hana return date

    Anyone have any info on this? Aside from the site just saying 2 month vacay.

    Thanks.

  9. #38773
    I am sorry but I don't typically sample girls using pics from the CV eras. Sunny / Sun has already been identified (click here).

    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan1009  [View Original Post]
    With all these k-doll busting talk, did anyone sampled Sunny?...

  10. #38772
    Are you speculating? I am saying by releasing all this info, all SoCal associates with the accused will be on high alert and probably started running already. They probably nabbed all they could for now and will need to spend a lot more resources to follow the money. We will see how SoCal owners react. I did say we should be MORE aware of our surroundings.

    Quote Originally Posted by SolarisMan  [View Original Post]
    This thing ain't over yet! And I am saying it because there is a connection to Southern CA. So, it is here and other things are happening behind the scene.

  11. #38771
    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan1009  [View Original Post]
    With all these k-doll busting talk, did anyone sampled Sunny?

    I heard many were scared and wanted booker to delete their info and chat history, that's not going to help much just FYI, what's done is done.

    Guess everyone is worried, but as someone said, it's just a misdemeanor, LOL.
    I'm seeing her soon will report back once I have time I bet the feds read the forums.

  12. #38770
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    Probably, she and government employees already under surveillance exposed incall locations and provided reasonable cause for more warrants. Finally, she put the finishing touch by recording Torrance man agreeing to lease apartments.

    I hope owners read the affidavit and see how they can get screwed. I don't believe SoCal owners closely associated with them, if at all. They felt very amateurish.

    Torrance man was probably OTC with Kgirl who convinced him to lease apartments so she could open up shops in Boston. Then Kgirl probably recruited another OTC student to help so she could expand to VA. This reminds me of the League.

    We should still watch out for surveillance now. Avoid hallway with Ring camera. Trying to hide our face will only make us more suspicious to the neighbors.
    This thing ain't over yet! And I am saying it because there is a connection to Southern CA. So, it is here and other things are happening behind the scene.

  13. #38769

    Kgirl informant was probably key

    Probably, she and government employees already under surveillance exposed incall locations and provided reasonable cause for more warrants. Finally, she put the finishing touch by recording Torrance man agreeing to lease apartments.

    I hope owners read the affidavit and see how they can get screwed. I don't believe SoCal owners closely associated with them, if at all. They felt very amateurish.

    Torrance man was probably OTC with Kgirl who convinced him to lease apartments so she could open up shops in Boston. Then Kgirl probably recruited another OTC student to help so she could expand to VA. This reminds me of the League.

    We should still watch out for surveillance now. Avoid hallway with Ring camera. Trying to hide our face will only make us more suspicious to the neighbors.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeWally  [View Original Post]
    ...
    You can read the 60 page affidavit here if you're curious. I've read many in the past and it's always fun because they have to spell all the facts out:

    https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf...

  14. #38768
    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan1009  [View Original Post]
    I recently went to KT for an appointment and compares to 10 - 15 years ago, K-town right now for me consider as HOOD.

    It was dirty, trash, poop, pee, rotten food, tent, needles, air smells like someone just took a dump. The whole k-town is a shit show now but still, rents are going minimum $2 k and up for a one bedroom.
    The funniest thing, in random conversations this year I've had three different girls tell me, without me even asking about it (I simply asked 'What do you think of San Diego' how trashy K-town was. I had a 4th tell me that last year. The most recent conversation, she says she used to work there and every year it got worse and now she refuses to work there.

    Things got noticeably worse in general after Covid, on reddit I'd see videos posted of encampments and while I've seen homeless in LA for decades and recognize these places, it's clearly gotten worse. It's gotten worse in SD but I always say 'Eh, right now in SD isn't half as bad as LA 20 years ago'. Look on the bright side.

  15. #38767
    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan1009  [View Original Post]
    With all these k-doll busting talk, did anyone sampled Sunny?

    I heard many were scared and wanted booker to delete their info and chat history, that's not going to help much just FYI, what's done is done.

    Guess everyone is worried, but as someone said, it's just a misdemeanor, LOL.
    Wla Sunny is rebrand of One or Won.

    I guess it didn't go to well for her and had to change to 340 all in.

    And if the review here can be trusted she also had a big attituded change for the better.

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