Massage Parlor Reports

[Flyguy1980]

So the BTT guys are sweating about getting outed in public and possibly losing jobs, families etc. and you are worried that your next HJ may cost more?

I am filing this one in the " Out of touch" folder.

Paul. Apologies if my wording was too insensitive. First my experience in this forum pales in comparison with yours, second I've always tried to add direct value versus engaging in unnecessary back and forth, third provider prices keep going up (including all options), fourth most of us don't have the means like the mongers on BTT, tryst, Eros and similar sites (I wish I did but unfortunately don't make that much money) and therefore would like myself and others to hold the line on prices (including all options) if BTT-type mongers and others start to shift their interests elsewhere. This in no way whatsoever means that I don't feel bad for the registered BTT monger database that may be at risk for future prosecution (and subsequent family and employment consequences) if they've provided personally sensitive information.

Fly.

[TheIslandBear]

Relatively new to the page, not new to the AMP's. Looking to find another AMP in the area besides blue in Danvers. CBJ doesn't do it for me. Trying to try some new spots.

[HappyDave]

https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

Everyone should read this, at least the first half. It shows how much info the feds can get with search warrants when they want it. Cell phone tracking, bank accounts, onsite surveillance, lease agreements. They were working this at least back to 2022 to gather a bunch of hard evidence. The methods used by the feds is not just about the local bust, but good to know info for everyone.

Time will tell if any customers get outed by the locals or the press or a whistleblower looking to make some $$.

It seems obvious that asking for personal info is not really about safety. We don't here too much about robberies, assaults at these places or even AMPs. Just an occasional SW with a pimp.

The verification process was for no one's safety. Government issues I'd so that can make there own to say anything. I know one of the girls was stationed very close to two popular AMPs in Watertown. Strange how the cops went after a visually from the street UTR operation that by web site standards was very visible. But avoided store front brothels. Sometimes I think one operation just rats out competition just to thin things.

[BR1201]

A bunch of red flags here at least for me. The write up by the special agent included cooperation between Watertown PD and the feds. Yikes. There were several mongers who provided intel to LE. That must have been horrible. Can't imagine going through that. They caught the MPs transferring girls between NYC and Boston (so many MA AMPs do this weekly it's so obvious). Tangential crimes related to money laundering, drugs, gambling coming. Many have seen this if you monger frequently. Not saying I've had first hand experiences but I've been told.

From the news: "On Thursday, one day after three people were arrested on federal charges for allegedly operating a ring that catered to a wealthy and well-connected clientele, authorities would not rule out either federal or state charges against hundreds of men who bought sex. " Damn. Maybe some more shoes drop soon.

Thank goodness I never use my real name or phone or email.

[Bran001]

Seems these pre screening systems do not do what they advise and only act as filing cabinet to be grabbed by uncle.

Why do you say this?

The criminal complaint says that someone ratted out the operation -- an Asian woman.

The only thing the pre screening process could do is screen out LE. I've not read any evidence of LE agents getting in to see the girls -- but maybe I missed that?

And no amount of pre screening will screen out gents who under the right circumstances would talk to LE if confronted.

[PaulRew]

I hope that the money those gents were spending on BTT doesn't find its way to average AMPs and raise overall prices for the rest of us!

Fly.

So the BTT guys are sweating about getting outed in public and possibly losing jobs, families etc. and you are worried that your next HJ may cost more?

I am filing this one in the " Out of touch" folder.

[LarryJay]

https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

Everyone should read this, at least the first half. It shows how much info the feds can get with search warrants when they want it. Cell phone tracking, bank accounts, onsite surveillance, lease agreements. They were working this at least back to 2022 to gather a bunch of hard evidence. The methods used by the feds is not just about the local bust, but good to know info for everyone.

Time will tell if any customers get outed by the locals or the press or a whistleblower looking to make some $$.

It seems obvious that asking for personal info is not really about safety. We don't here too much about robberies, assaults at these places or even AMPs. Just an occasional SW with a pimp.

[HappyDave]

"More specifically, once the information is verified, the sex.
Customer receives a text message from phone numbers associated with the brothels. In the.
Alternative, clients also can be verified through their "TerID" or through "Preferred 411. " Based.
On my training and experience, I am aware that "TerID" refers to an identification assigned to.
Commercial sex workers and to VIP members of a website titled www.TheEroticRview.com.
Which provides clients with, among other things, access to reviews and lists of and allow searches.
For commercial sex workers. Likewise, I am aware that "Preferred 411" refers to a website titled.
www.prefered411.com ".

"Investigators have already identified several of the alleged customers through surveillance, phone records, and interviews, Levy said.

Seems these pre screening systems do not do what they advise and only act as filing cabinet to be grabbed by uncle.

[SoxFan68]

Levy said customers could access the illicit services through two websites, and they had to first complete a survey to verify their credentials and provide information including their drivers license photos, employers' names, and credit card information and often paid a monthly fee to remain part of the network.

That is why you are really dumb to give your information to anyone.

I agree 100%. I cannot understand how anyone, let alone someone like a politician, CEO, doctor, lawyer, etc, would give out identifying information like drivers license, credit card information, etc. You would think they would be intelligent enough to understand how it could come back to haunt them. I have a burner Tracfone, burner email account, use a fake name, and I am still cautious about who I see and where I go. I would never give out personal info, let alone a picture I'd or financial info that can be traced back. I don't even like to park in front of an establishment unless there are other businesses nearby that use the same lot. In this day and age privacy is the number one priority.

[Flyguy1980]

"More specifically, once the information is verified, the sex. Customer receives a text message from phone numbers associated with the brothels.

I hope that the money those gents were spending on BTT doesn't find its way to average AMPs and raise overall prices for the rest of us!

Fly.

[MBeamg]

"More specifically, once the information is verified, the sex.
Customer receives a text message from phone numbers associated with the brothels. In the.
Alternative, clients also can be verified through their "TerID" or through "Preferred 411. " Based.
On my training and experience, I am aware that "TerID" refers to an identification assigned to.
Commercial sex workers and to VIP members of a website titled www.TheEroticRview.com.
Which provides clients with, among other things, access to reviews and lists of and allow searches.
For commercial sex workers. Likewise, I am aware that "Preferred 411" refers to a website titled.
www.prefered411.com ".

"Investigators have already identified several of the alleged customers through surveillance, phone records, and interviews, Levy said. ".


Above are two direct quotes, seems like the identified parties are from surveilance, phone calls and actually talking to people.

If any of my AMPs get shut down I'll riot in the street.

[HomerSpinSome]

There are many spas in Newtonville. Most, but not all, are on Washington street. From the 'desk' comment I think you're talking about the one at 709, but you need to be more specific if you want us to know which one you mean.

"The Newtonville Spa" which I mentioned is at 709. The name is so generic that it's easy to get confused.

[BostonMan44]

Anyone been to this place lately? I was in the area for work last year and stopped by here. It's on the second floor by Dunkin.

Not sure if they're still open, website is down and open sign is no longer on. Any information as well as details would be appreciated. Thanks.

[Katokay]

Levy said customers could access the illicit services through two websites, and they had to first complete a survey to verify their credentials and provide information including their drivers license photos, employers' names, and credit card information and often paid a monthly fee to remain part of the network.

That is why you are really dumb to give your information to anyone.

[Bishop8891]

There are many spas in Newtonville. Most, but not all, are on Washington street. From the 'desk' comment I think you're talking about the one at 709, but you need to be more specific if you want us to know which one you mean.

Only one in Newtonville that I know of. 709 is correct.