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[BamBam]

I had some thoughts I would like to add. Before doing so, I wish to credit Hollywood Guy. I learned most of my skills / technique from following the advice he shared starting back when he was active on the Richmond thread. Those were truly in the early days.

First, the Bowl is past its' peak but it is still the best way to find fresh young GFE action. The early days were "early" days. Everybody was new at it. Most especially the girls and they had much different expectations than today. All the nasty action was over on Backpage, Craigs List, etc. Today, those people are muddying the Bowl and scaring away some innocent young things we might have found earlier. There are now Reddit, FB, YT and TT forums and videos offering women advice on how to use the Bowl. Even if the numbers rebound, the innocence will not.

Second, people who are new even then complained about lack of success. It was always thus and thus it always will be. It takes practice, patience and discipline to achieve success in the Bowl. However, with those virtues and some game, *anyone* can get laid off the Bowl. To start, newbies need to learn to avoid getting "buck fever" over the first few thirst traps you see. Too many guys zoom in on the first few profiles (often even a single profile) that look likely. Most of the time these are actually scammers or, if real, out of their league/GPS. HG has always said: it's a numbers game. Never, never, ever! Get too invested in any one profile. Cast the net wide then cast it wider. Try A-B testing different approaches, different personal pictures and profile language. Keep chasing even after you build a rotation. Women move on or you get bored; you need to stay in practice.

Next, be prepared to overpay in the beginning. Be prepared to lower your standards in the beginning. Look at some of the wisdom posted by the high count posters on this thread. Sugar babies aren't like escorts. They tend to very selective and ask to be wooed. They rarely are seeing multiple guys in a week or month or at the same time. (It happens but that is not what I consider a true Sugar experience.) When you approach the highest quality profiles, you very likely will find yourself in competition with guys who have far more experience. It will tough to outperform them in gaining a chick's interest. Therefor, you must either offer a higher allowance or aim for someone not getting as much attention. Don't get discouraged.

Final tip, remember that it's a numbers game. Just work the numbers and ignore rejection or failure. Women can smell and despise desperation; they are attracted to confidence and indifference. If you understand that, like a city bus, another profile is always coming along, you can avoid the former and use the latter.

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[Dsteezy]

Honestly I'm young I'm talking barely 30 and was in there late 20's. Can't recall how many situations ended up where nothing was exchanged and they'd continue to reach out. Felt much easier than bumble / tinder / hinge. Though that was relatively easy as well.

Currently have 2 and 1 lives with me and asks for nothing, the other is this gorgeous person who just enjoys being treated out and nothing more.

Currently found myself the unicorn I've been looking for since I've been on SA. A little person and I'm not talking about someone that's 4'11 or 4'10 what ever the technical height is for what someone deems as a little person.

This one is like 4'3 and life is good.

Also have these college girls that live together it's 3 of them and went out with them last night out here in OC. Cute group of white and two Asian girls. All they want is dinner which I can see how it might be more but no allowance exchanged.

SA can truly be a great place still. It's not as frequent but it's still there and I'll check in every 3 months or so to see if there's anyone that intrigued me.

I was too young and not established back then. Still I think of what could have been. When I finally did get on I had women (incl. Asians) discounting themselves because I was relatively young. Never coming back LOL.

[RanManCan]

I have noticed a bunch of girls with "love" in their header. Gives the impression they are pros all with the same booker. Anyone have any experience with them?

Examples:

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...a-077827af1533

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...e-ee741f18a4ba

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...b-b228e0a0307c

I'm curious about this too! This is the closest I could find, short for "Live Laugh Love Girl" - but could just as easily be a booker.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...%20Love%20Girl

[MidnightDabber]

I was too young and not established back then. Still I think of what could have been. When I finally did get on I had women (incl. Asians) discounting themselves because I was relatively young. Never coming back LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

Ideally you want someone new to sugaring if you are looking for the biggest bang for your buck. Once these girls start taking cash for pussy they wisen up rather quickly.

Add two years to that girl and she is not the same girl anymore. Add four years and she is basically not even worth the effort. Just my 2 cents. I rarely respond to any girl whose profile is more than a few months old. For me a year old is already too long.

And all that guarantees nothing. Because she could have been renting herself out long before she ever found seeking. But I hedge my bets to the best of my ability.

[FarFarAway]

I have a bit of a contact list of SBs I have talked to (but mostly not met) since 2015. Now that I am off SA would it be weird / advisable to reach out to some of them to see if they are still sugaring and dtf? What should I say? Any advice.

I keep an amazingly long list of all those I have been in touch w / from the site, their info, etc. Sometimes I will see a profile on the site I recognize, someone I had been interested in but never moved forward with. But also at a time (mostly) that I don't have a paid membership, so I can't message them on the site. If I am lucky, I will recall enough info I can go back and get their phone # from my records, and then I can say something like "I saw your profile on seeking recently, we were in touch there earlier" and re-introduce myself.

[Lexx1]

I have a bit of a contact list of SBs I have talked to (but mostly not met) since 2015. Now that I am off SA would it be weird / advisable to reach out to some of them to see if they are still sugaring and dtf? What should I say? Any advice.

Heck yes do it! I've done this. My issue sometimes was not having enough time to meet up with all the babies I had lined up. I had everything all discussed with them, amounts, what they liked and open to in the sack, etc. Just to much pussy ready to go and literally not enough time to see them.

It's easy just reach out to them and say I'm so and so from Seeking. And just wondering if you might still be interested and needing help. And make up something like your schedule was hectic busy and sorry you couldn't meet up. It's 50/50 whether they are still interested and I've had luck being able to hook up with some. Just don't be surprised if some are married now and have kids. Or some have gained weight and are not as hot as they used to be. That's life. No biggie. So I'd suggest doing some reverse searches on any contact info you have for them. Phone #, reverse face searches, so that maybe you can find them on Facebook or Insta and see where they may be at in life and if you still want to reach out. A lot could have changed since 2015 for them.

[NutritionFacts]

I have a bit of a contact list of SBs I have talked to (but mostly not met) since 2015. Now that I am off SA would it be weird / advisable to reach out to some of them to see if they are still sugaring and dtf? What should I say? Any advice.

[Lexx1]

Think its a cyclical or pattern that will get better sometime?

Not sure. I stick to trying to find fresh young sugarbabies. And right now that pool is tiny compared to before covid. Even the overall pool is small. If I remember correctly the overall pool without any search filters used to be at 100,000+ before covid. Now it's only 10,000+ for all sugarbabies of any age. So that's a considerable drop. I'm hoping more younger honeys will give it a try but it's going to be a slow climb.

[NutritionFacts]

Covid is what happened and it's still affecting things. And as mentioned it's affecting the pool of available girls in all ethnicities not just Asian. Remember we're dealing in a game that involves super intimate contact. Prostitutes rebounded pretty quick because that's usually their only way to make money. But fresh newbie babies are probably looking for other means for extra cash other than fucking for it. Less risk of getting sick from covid and also the other usual std's. The pool of young fresh newbies is considerably smaller than before covid.

Think its a cyclical or pattern that will get better sometime?

[LimpAndSmall]

What happened to them? Is Sugaring past its peak?

Inevitable. Fashions and social phenomena in general always have an expiry date.

Being an SB was a cool / fun thing for sorority coeds say 6 years ago. That in itself guarantees that it isn't cool today.

That was yesterday's fashion.

[Lexx1]

What happened to them? Is Sugaring past its peak?

Covid is what happened and it's still affecting things. And as mentioned it's affecting the pool of available girls in all ethnicities not just Asian. Remember we're dealing in a game that involves super intimate contact. Prostitutes rebounded pretty quick because that's usually their only way to make money. But fresh newbie babies are probably looking for other means for extra cash other than fucking for it. Less risk of getting sick from covid and also the other usual std's. The pool of young fresh newbies is considerably smaller than before covid.

[PantyPatrol1]

Sorry man it's not something that's easily teachable. Some things I do have to say is stop going for older babies. Late 20's and above ask for to much. Because they have to many responsibilities. So they usually expect more. You don't want a seasoned vet sugarbaby. Especially the ones that tell you straight out in their profile that they've had previous daddies. That's the first strike for me and I move on to the next profile. Girls that say treat me like a princess or say "generous" in their profile. Another sentence that irks me in their profiles is "don't waste my time". Well fuck you b*tch then! I move on the next profile. When you see that, that's just the tip of the iceberg. If you really read what some of these girls put in their profiles. You can usually easily see the warning signs right away. Fellas just don't look at the pretty pics of these chics. READ what they write in their profiles.

I make really good money in my profession but when it comes to pussy. It really shouldn't be expensive and really should be as free as possible. I still date in regular civie life. But when you're in your 40's it's not that easy to find that hot young 18/19 year old to rock your world. I civie date late 20's, 30's and some early 40's. Once in a while I'll find a young one on sites like okcupid that's curious about dating an older dude. But when I want it fast and guarantee that it's just about dessert getting into those young panties. Then I go on the hunt on Seeking.

Much truth here- beware of a bunch or rules and disclaimers in the profile as well as those POTS are likely not going to be a good time. Someone who starts things off by strafing their applicants is to be avoided. And true, the older they are, the more bills they have.

[Lexx1]

May I ask you how to negotiate? For now, most of them will ask for a ridiculous number and not guarantee for the time they stay together. Some will ask to leave or even vanish with no signs after the first pop. How do you prevent that from happening to you and keep it for a long time?

Sorry man it's not something that's easily teachable. Some things I do have to say is stop going for older babies. Late 20's and above ask for to much. Because they have to many responsibilities. So they usually expect more. You don't want a seasoned vet sugarbaby. Especially the ones that tell you straight out in their profile that they've had previous daddies. That's the first strike for me and I move on to the next profile. Girls that say treat me like a princess or say "generous" in their profile. Another sentence that irks me in their profiles is "don't waste my time". Well fuck you b*tch then! I move on the next profile. When you see that, that's just the tip of the iceberg. If you really read what some of these girls put in their profiles. You can usually easily see the warning signs right away. Fellas just don't look at the pretty pics of these chics. READ what they write in their profiles.

I make really good money in my profession but when it comes to pussy. It really shouldn't be expensive and really should be as free as possible. I still date in regular civie life. But when you're in your 40's it's not that easy to find that hot young 18/19 year old to rock your world. I civie date late 20's, 30's and some early 40's. Once in a while I'll find a young one on sites like okcupid that's curious about dating an older dude. But when I want it fast and guarantee that it's just about dessert getting into those young panties. Then I go on the hunt on Seeking.

[Mac Eat Bright]

Because for the 300/400 average you're dropping on a kgirl. You can still get lucky and find a younger, just as cute or hotter, Asian girl in other nationalities as a sugarbaby. Not just Korean. And for around the same price if you know how to negotiate. And not be limited to just an hour or less playtime.

Some guys still use the monger mentality when talking to a POT. You don't do that. Don't talk about hourly, or for an hour, or other monger terms such as BBBJ, cim, etc. A true fresh sugarbaby / non-pro shouldn't be talked to in those terms and you shouldn't set a time limit on the meetups. I spend on average 2 sometimes 3 hours with my arrangements. Sometimes overnights. Doing all kinds of naughty things in the sack. Taking pics, videos. Creampies, swallowing, anal. Try doing all that with a kgirl for that same price and for that long. Ain't going to happen and kgirls are high mileage on them.

I've said it before and will say it again. The arrangement game is the best value bang for the buck. If you negotiate and keep the price low.

The only thing that kind of gets close is if you travel to southeast Asian countries. But I don't travel so the sugar game is my dreamland. It used to be even cheaper back in the non-pro days on Craigslist. The same quality of girls on Seeking but at basement prices. I'd spend 100 average for young cute White girls, Asian girls, Latinas, etc. I'd still dabble on Seeking back then too. But even then it was still a little pricier than craigslist and it's personal ads section. And no need to pay a membership fee. Craig's was and always has been free. Fuck Trump and his damn Fosta law! That's what screwed up everything and the gold rush on Craigslist.

May I ask you how to negotiate? For now, most of them will ask for a ridiculous number and not guarantee for the time they stay together. Some will ask to leave or even vanish with no signs after the first pop. How do you prevent that from happening to you and keep it for a long time?