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  1. #23568

    Loyal / Maple Spa in Spring Valley: not recommended

    After another member on here said they had a new rotation (that girl was Columbian), I decided to give Loyal / Maple spa another try. Not that I prefer Latinas, just to see if / how much things have changed. Also I thought maybe the former VIP down the road may have moved in or merged with them. No. $60 for 30 minutes. The last time I came over, one girl was working, waited TWENTY minutes in the room, she was a no show. Complete no show. Mamasan gone too. Walked out minus $60.

    How did it go this time? Girl does come in. Decent looking. 2 minutes in, asks if I want everything. Nod yes. Money please. Oh really. Could I talk anything off of her first just to make sure this new setup they have is 100% legit. Nope. Can she touch me down there. Nope. Money first, before anything.

    I don't have a problem with the girl asking for money before the deed. I do have a problem with them immediately asking for money when they have not shown the goods or fluffed up the customer at all. 2nd time I walked out in a row. Did not ask for the $60 back. It was a learning experience. Maybe some customers like being bossed around, but we all deserve some respect and not treated like an ATM machine right off the bat.

  2. #23567
    Quote Originally Posted by TJDog  [View Original Post]
    I notice now on Bedpage that they are running two ads. One vanilla and one hinting at FS type activities.
    Just went there this morning (HX), no one answered the inside door at all. Waited 2-3 minutes and left. Seems like a one-chick operation if that's the case. Will not bother in the future.

  3. #23566
    Quote Originally Posted by Doretti  [View Original Post]
    Found myself in the area on Labor Day and wondered if they were open, so gave them a call. No answer. A few minutes later my phone rings and she said they are open. I asked if they are busy and she said no so I drove right there. I was the only customer. I got the 45 minute session and drew Apple, about 5'3 or so and maybe 115? She has a very pretty face IMO and a nice attitude. Asked for medium pressure and it was very light but I just let her do her thing. She did some light reading before the flip, then began the negotiations. Settled on HE which was slow and sensual with a great release. I asked about access to her top but didn't think it was worth what she was asking so didn't partake. She finished out the time with a nice head and leg massage, gave me a water and a hug goodbye. It's a very nice place very clean and a little pricier than some others. 60/60 .
    I agree, Apple is a cutie and has a beautiful face IMO. One of my favorites.

  4. #23565

    You really need to see Cici or Sophia!

    Quote Originally Posted by PJuice  [View Original Post]
    First time poster and a newbie. Felt the need to contribute and pay homage to PTJ, RCDK and what happen to DeadAzz?

    Went to Mesa on Saturday afternoon and was little disappointed-understandably all encounters are subject to YMMV. I asked MMS for a line up when I arrived, bur the only "one available" was Ellie. I probably should've waited for another day, but you know how that goes. Ellie was short, cute and had small B's. No message skills. She gave a decent BBBJ with fake CIM. She kept spitting into the trash can which interrupted the flow. No kissing, tried suck on her tits and she would wipe off Immediately with a wipes.

    No English, wasted an hour session (actually 45 min as we disagreed on time if arrival) and felt like everything was an upsell. Request a HJ for a second pop and she wasted a Benji for that. 180 tip plus hr house, no way. Will not repeat with her. Will try another girl there, but didn't like the overall experience.

    Anyway, will share more adventures as I wonder out into this new world.
    Welcome brother! I sure hope the "P" stands for pussy juice!

    I'm really sorry reading that you had such a bummer of a 1st time experience. Unfortunately, most of us can relate and have all experienced sub-par ladies like, Elle. Always try and do a half hour if it's your first time seeing a new lady. I really wish you could of tried Vivian / Nancy while they were there, or even better yet, caught Sophia before she took her leave to rest. If you like smoking hot spinner bodies (around 5'-1" 100 lbs), Cici and her hot mind blowing GFE service is also a must see!

    She has a distinctive tattoo just down below her right waist line (my name actually) LOL.

    2 Things:

    1. Don't ever let these spa's pull any Bait & Switch on you.

    2. Don't ever compromise! Stick to your guns (the type of lady you want) and think with your big head. If you aren't feeling the talent you see- just walk and try another location. That night I found Cici and had my epic 1st amazing sesh with her. I went to 3 or 4 other locations prior. And had to Steven Segal Black Ops fight myself out of 1 of those places and escape from 4 ladies who had be surrounded hellbent of not letting me escape with my $$ 1 of them literally having of my fucking balls in hand. & I was able to break free and make it out with my balls still intact. LOL.

    I wish you best of luck going forward and looking forward to reading some hot reports / Intel!

  5. #23564

    Capri spa

    Found myself in the area on Labor Day and wondered if they were open, so gave them a call. No answer. A few minutes later my phone rings and she said they are open. I asked if they are busy and she said no so I drove right there. I was the only customer. I got the 45 minute session and drew Apple, about 5'3 or so and maybe 115? She has a very pretty face IMO and a nice attitude. Asked for medium pressure and it was very light but I just let her do her thing. She did some light reading before the flip, then began the negotiations. Settled on HE which was slow and sensual with a great release. I asked about access to her top but didn't think it was worth what she was asking so didn't partake. She finished out the time with a nice head and leg massage, gave me a water and a hug goodbye. It's a very nice place very clean and a little pricier than some others. 60/60 .

    Doretti.

  6. #23563
    Quote Originally Posted by RichJ8991  [View Original Post]
    Could be that they are new and a bit paranoid for new customers. Which is rare these days, most girls are making money like crazy. The backpage advertisement stuff does not mention full service but statistically speaking from their ads, I can almost guarantee it's HE if you keep coming back.
    I notice now on Bedpage that they are running two ads. One vanilla and one hinting at FS type activities.

  7. #23562

    Mesa Spa (Flanders) Ellie

    First time poster and a newbie. Felt the need to contribute and pay homage to PTJ, RCDK and what happen to DeadAzz?

    Went to Mesa on Saturday afternoon and was little disappointed-understandably all encounters are subject to YMMV. I asked MMS for a line up when I arrived, bur the only "one available" was Ellie. I probably should've waited for another day, but you know how that goes. Ellie was short, cute and had small B's. No message skills. She gave a decent BBBJ with fake CIM. She kept spitting into the trash can which interrupted the flow. No kissing, tried suck on her tits and she would wipe off Immediately with a wipes.

    No English, wasted an hour session (actually 45 min as we disagreed on time if arrival) and felt like everything was an upsell. Request a HJ for a second pop and she wasted a Benji for that. 180 tip plus hr house, no way. Will not repeat with her. Will try another girl there, but didn't like the overall experience.

    Anyway, will share more adventures as I wonder out into this new world.

  8. #23561

    She's changed?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeJoesph  [View Original Post]
    Wow. Haven't seen her in at least a year. Really thought they bait and ditched me. Didn't recognize her. But her massage was 10/10 and what she's famous for. 100/10.
    She hasn't changed one bit over the last 3 years. Still looks the same, talks the same, and performs the same. What do you mean.

  9. #23560

    Lulu

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeJoesph  [View Original Post]
    Wow. Haven't seen her in at least a year. Really thought they bait and ditched me. Didn't recognize her. But her massage was 10/10 and what she's famous for. 100/10.
    What changed?

  10. #23559

    Lulu uspa

    Wow. Haven't seen her in at least a year. Really thought they bait and ditched me. Didn't recognize her. But her massage was 10/10 and what she's famous for. 100/10.

  11. #23558
    It had been a while since I had seen Ivy and I was due, made the call and found out she was over at Ronson. Headed over there in the early afternoon and there she was, Ivy and her beautiful smile and bodacious tatta's, big boobies for your youngins LOL She opened the door for me and gave me a big hug and kiss and just then another monger came by. I also wanted to talk with her so I told her to take customer and I would wait. While I was waiting one of the other girls came in, WOW! Young, thin, long black hair and a nice set of tatas, they looked a bit like man mades but I later found out they were not, just firm and beautiful. She told me she would start the massage until Ivy's was available, I was thinking "Yes, please.". To lighten the mood I tried to talk with her, English is not that great. Her name is Toby, 25, no kids. She started with a light massage as I was laying down on my belly, she went to my ass and started to do the reach around, who am I to deny this hot young lady my package LOL I went to my side and so she could play with my balls and rod, light touching but it felt so hot. I was able to get one of her tits out and wow, a big ole nipple, I love nipples. Ivy came in and without hesitation she dropped her top revealing those giant cans and she dropped them on my face, after a few words from Ivy, Toby dropped her clothes, what a great body. Not there I was with two naked ladies, Ivy jumped on top first after putting the condom on. She was riding me while Toby was putting her tits in my face and kissing me, I got to feel her trimmed muff and nice ass. It was time to switch, they cleaned me up, put a new cover on and Toby jumped on, Ivy and I were kissing and and I was playing with both sets of tits!! Incredible! Toby and I switched to mish where I filled the bag. Toby cleaned me up and then Ivy started with an after massage, holy cow I needed that. Dropped a few bills as a tip but it was well worth it! I just didn't know what to do, I wanted to grab both asses, suck all 4 tits, kiss them both. Will not forget it!!

  12. #23557
    Senior Member


    Posts: 516

    Unless there was a line out the door

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoota  [View Original Post]
    Yes. To confirm, I did not get 3 HJ's. Junior would have died if this was the case.

    Thanks for your 1:1 tipping rule of thumb. Unless I hear any other challenges to this, I might need to up my tipping game. I don't want to be perceived as the cheap charlie to the ladies, but I also don't want to contribute towards inflation in this hobby of ours.
    i think 80-100 is more than fair. I assume she didn't edge you for 90 minutes. IMHO, she shouldn't be griping too much about the tip.

    Between the hf and a 120 tip you're getting close to independent massage prices where it's more discreet.

    She wants more, she needs to drop the panties.

  13. #23556
    Quote Originally Posted by JWalker350  [View Original Post]
    But she did not do HJ 3X for 120 minutes. I did not see the OP reported 3x. I usually give $60 for 60 minutes and $90 for 90 minutes.
    Yes. To confirm, I did not get 3 HJ's. Junior would have died if this was the case.

    Thanks for your 1:1 tipping rule of thumb. Unless I hear any other challenges to this, I might need to up my tipping game. I don't want to be perceived as the cheap charlie to the ladies, but I also don't want to contribute towards inflation in this hobby of ours.

  14. #23555
    Quote Originally Posted by JWalker350  [View Original Post]
    But she did not do HJ 3X for 120 minutes. I did not see the OP reported 3x. I usually give $60 for 60 minutes and $90 for 90 minutes.
    In my experience the girls don't use that logic.

  15. #23554
    Quote Originally Posted by Canuck6234  [View Original Post]
    These posts on tips are good guidance for the new guys here. As for your gal being pissed off by your $80 tip for a 90 minute HJ I think her reasoning was along these lines. She can get $40 for a 30 minute HJ. Her opportunity earnings for 90 minutes is $120. I am sure she felt like she was shorted $40.
    But she did not do HJ 3X for 120 minutes. I did not see the OP reported 3x. I usually give $60 for 60 minutes and $90 for 90 minutes.

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