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  1. #6924
    Quote Originally Posted by SuelyBrah  [View Original Post]
    Interesting points there. I think there's some truth to that.

    Now I got a question for you. What if a guy saw a pretty good looking provider for the first time. She's pretty young. In the middle of it, she said oh she rand out of condoms and offer him BBFS for the initial rate of 100 for a qv. What you think is going on?
    Never mind. Just PM me how to find her. I might still put on the cover, or I bring a bottle of Dettol for vaginas.

  2. #6923

    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by SuelyBrah  [View Original Post]
    Interesting points there. I think there's some truth to that.

    Now I got a question for you. What if a guy saw a pretty good looking provider for the first time. She's pretty young. In the middle of it, she said oh she rand out of condoms and offer him BBFS for the initial rate of 100 for a qv. What you think is going on?
    With no disrespect intended to you, but in my book. Who cares. LOLOLOL. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't forget to get wraps. BOTTOM LINE is that if she is offering it, she's willing. (Duh).

  3. #6922
    Quote Originally Posted by PewpHead  [View Original Post]
    If the BBFS price was only +100, it would be on her menu. If you want to fuck a girl BBFS off-menu or really get any extras, your options are:

    1. be hot (only works sometimes).

    2. be a regular & make an effort to get her to like you over a number of visits before you ask.

    3. be prepared to spend a lot of money, yeah probably something like +400 or maybe more.

    I'm relatively good looking but not Chad tier. I asked one of my Enclave ATFs who I thought I had good chemistry with & had her private number, just out of curiosity what her BBFS price was. I wasn't even intending to do BBFS, I was just curious what her full menu was since I asked her her menu and she was like "pretty much anything, just not anal". She got offended & threw a fit, didn't see me, and said at least $1,000. I could tell she wanted me to say sorry by offering her more money to come over, but I don't play that game so she hasn't seen me since. LOL. It's a tug of war where the girl thinks "if you like me you should pay more" while I think "if you like me you should charge less".
    Interesting points there. I think there's some truth to that.

    Now I got a question for you. What if a guy saw a pretty good looking provider for the first time. She's pretty young. In the middle of it, she said oh she rand out of condoms and offer him BBFS for the initial rate of 100 for a qv. What you think is going on?

  4. #6921
    Senior Member


    Posts: 455

    Ok, cite the case law. Give me the precedent and legal opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by PewpHead  [View Original Post]
    Don't make statements about the law when you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Paying a prostitute is 100% legal if it is being recorded. Period. Thanks to the 1st Amendment. The guy you're replying to is correct.

    You are referring to federal record keeping laws, 18 USA Code 2257, which do not apply unless the recording is "shipped in interstate or foreign commerce", which would not apply outside of a commercial porn operation. Even that only requires that you write down the woman's "name and date of birth" from an unspecified "identification document". The girl could show you a school I'd & you could write it on a napkin. Also the length of time you must keep the records if 7 years. And again, unless you're running a commercial operation in interstate commerce, none of this applies.

    So literally everything you wrote in your comment is wrong. Which means you didn't know anything about the subject & just made it all up based on some fantasy you had in your head. Knock that off.
    Pretty bold statements, you make, If I'm so wrong, then tell me what the case law is for the AVERAGE John (or trick) to avoid penalty by after the fact claiming 1st amendment rights. (no prior written agreement for filming).

    To escape prosecution on prostitution, you would need to have written agreements ahead of time, but go ahead, prove me wrong, I'll freely admit it if you can demonstrate it, I'm generally curious why every tom dick and harry can't escape charges by simply saying, oh officer I'm not paying for sex, I'm paying for 1st amendment reasons. See she's an "actress" and this is for my own personal later enjoyment (not interstate commerce).

    I'm sure you could set a number of people's minds at ease here, seems like a great loophole, help us all out.

    Go ahead, I'll wait.

  5. #6920

    Asian American -- Whoops

    Quote Originally Posted by AceMcNasty  [View Original Post]
    You are joking right? HX is like spinner ebony universe. There is so much to choose from. Shoot I could spam this forum with so many reviews because I am totally addicted to anorexic ebony. I am rotating 4 of them right now. A stable regular is Carmella of course. This girl barely weighs 100 pounds, and most of that is due to her brand new massive fake titties. She can really deepthroat your cock. I mean I could feel the head slamming against the back of her throat--and no gag!

    What I love about spinners is you can really spin them around your dick during CG without having to pull out, and do a 360 degree merry go round the dick maneuver ha ha ha. If I feel like it, maybe will post reviews of my other Nubian babies but for now, here is Mella's Hx link:

    https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/FunsizedMella
    Hey man, I meant to say Asian American, but understand that AA is known primarily something else. I will probably have to check out Melia. Any spinners at this point that are American, will do.

  6. #6919
    Quote Originally Posted by IslaVista  [View Original Post]
    It's like marrying 3 wives, lets say they come over and you get sick of that pussy after 2 month, are you just going to "fire" them? Girl goes to the cops and exposes your scheme, claiming she was trafficked and abused by a false job, she keeps her visa and you are the one getting fucked. Huge Heffener kept all his girls in check because he essentially controlled all aspects of their lives. No socializing, no gf outside the mansion, no bf. Basically anything that could lead them astray. Just sounds like a big pain in the ass. You are better off finding sugarbabies and just keep them on a monthly retainer.
    So I fucked this Kgirl a long time ago who I had great chemistry with, to the point where she gave me all her contact info & had me come over as her last appointment free & hang out with her. Not saying this to brag, but to say she was clearly looking to groom a husband. She didn't keep up contact once she went back to Korea. Shame for her, too, because she had me damn close to hooked. She was hot as fuck & had natural DDs.

    Years later she contacts me out of the blue. So she needs a divorce lawyer. She went back to korea & met an American client there, viet guy, who married her. Their arrangement was that he'd give her a $1,500/ mo allowance. Well that pussy got stale & now he wanted to cut her to $500/ mo. Her response was to get a divorce & hit me up immediately looking to jump saddles. I was like, fuck yeah, we made plans to date.

    HUGE difference seeing her in the bright daylight. 1st of all, she wasn't nearly as hot as I'd remembered. She was actually just a super plain & average generic korean looking girl. The dark lighting of the Khouse & her having lots of makeup boosted her immensely. Also she showed up to our date not wearing makeup which. Bold strategy cotton. She didn't dress like she was trying to get fucked, either. Apparently she'd acclimated to wifey mode & had stopped even trying to look hot. At least she hadn't gained weight.

    Basically she wanted me to take over the $1,500/ mo & she'd be mine. I asked about sexual frequency & she said her husband used to fuck her constantly but it dropped over time & wasn't much anymore. I asked if she was down to get me off 3-5 x a week indefinitely & she said yes. I asked if she was okay with wearing makeup every day & she said yes.

    2nd date she showed up wearing makeup (took the hint) so we went back to my place to fuck. Her tits were still great, but overall she wasn't the girl I'd remembered & now I knew she'd get lazy over time. So the $1,500 was not worth it. When she realized I wasn't going to pick up the tab, she decided not to get divorced.

  7. #6918
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSkinnyPete  [View Original Post]
    Then why do they act weird and get offended when I ask? And how much money are we talking about? Say her CFS hour is 400, is it +100 for BBFS? Or is something like +400 (so total 800) for BBFS?
    If the BBFS price was only +100, it would be on her menu. If you want to fuck a girl BBFS off-menu or really get any extras, your options are:

    1. be hot (only works sometimes).

    2. be a regular & make an effort to get her to like you over a number of visits before you ask.

    3. be prepared to spend a lot of money, yeah probably something like +400 or maybe more.

    I'm relatively good looking but not Chad tier. I asked one of my Enclave ATFs who I thought I had good chemistry with & had her private number, just out of curiosity what her BBFS price was. I wasn't even intending to do BBFS, I was just curious what her full menu was since I asked her her menu and she was like "pretty much anything, just not anal". She got offended & threw a fit, didn't see me, and said at least $1,000. I could tell she wanted me to say sorry by offering her more money to come over, but I don't play that game so she hasn't seen me since. LOL. It's a tug of war where the girl thinks "if you like me you should pay more" while I think "if you like me you should charge less".

  8. #6917

    Diary of a regarded genius

    Quote Originally Posted by SukijoSeiwaka  [View Original Post]
    Ok, I'll clear things up. My new job is in Financial Sciences. Basically, developing profitable formulas, algorithms and quant models in the private sector. I'm the chief scientist and cam easily do all the math myself as I'm an unconventional mathematician who's never had a failed business and could've got my degree at 14. Now with that said.

    These girls would only be sleeping with me. For their visas, I'd just put research assistant, mathematician, or lab assistant. Remember, if I'm the chief scientist in a private sector lab, I can hire whomever I please. Also, Japan outranks our kids in math so, a Japanese young woman likely could be able to pull of a science roll. Even if she's just a glorified secretary downloading chart data. Pay wise, it would only cost me $15,000. 00 to hire 3 girls at $30 k a piece. I have at least 26 proven financial formulas that make 30-60% roi per month. Though, I don't think they'd charge that much.

    Basically this is their job: Lool pretty. Enjoy life. Bareback me without getting pregnant. Play the role of a "lab assistant" once a month for the work visa. In other words, a cushy job where they have sex with me only.
    You did not just invent the concept of a "kept mistress with a fake job". Tons of high earning men hire their hoes so they can get pussy at work & tax write offs for their fuck money.

    Here is where you are running into problems:

    1. No one is going to give you Visas for anything remotely like what you described. Visas aren't given out for low pay shit work. H-1 Bs are also fought over & there are waiting lists & lotteries.

    2. No woman is going to fuck you for $15 k a year. Okay maybe an ugly one, but not the type you're clearly looking for.

    3. 3 x $30 k = $90 k so I fail to see how you can only spend $15 k unless someone else is paying $75 k, or why they'd do that. Assuming the answer is "because I'm getting the woman a real job & she's getting a paycheck to do real work" then what is really happening is that you're only paying a chick $5 k a year to fuck you.

    4. Nobody believes all the things you said about yourself. "I have at least 26 proven financial formulas that make 30-60% roi per month. " reads like a spam email.

    5, If you are good looking. Safe bet you're not. You could get ONE girl to be your girlfriend, and you'd be paying her because you want a girl who is too good for you without the money element. The problem is that money isn't worth shit & $5 k is joke tier money. Like I said, many men already do this with 1 woman but they spend a lot more than $5 k. Once you attempt to add additional women, your plan will blow up faster than Hiroshima & Nagasaki. The price of a woman to be in a harem is a LOT more than being solo. If that wasn't the case, harems would be the norm in society.

  9. #6916
    Quote Originally Posted by Taws6  [View Original Post]
    To become "art", or a porno, a whole BUNCH of stuff has to happen, legal age (verified by passport / divers liscense) legal agreements need to be signed before hand on an on. I bet many of the girls here don't want to provide their "real" information to be kept on file. Forever.
    Don't make statements about the law when you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Paying a prostitute is 100% legal if it is being recorded. Period. Thanks to the 1st Amendment. The guy you're replying to is correct.

    You are referring to federal record keeping laws, 18 USA Code 2257, which do not apply unless the recording is "shipped in interstate or foreign commerce", which would not apply outside of a commercial porn operation. Even that only requires that you write down the woman's "name and date of birth" from an unspecified "identification document". The girl could show you a school I'd & you could write it on a napkin. Also the length of time you must keep the records if 7 years. And again, unless you're running a commercial operation in interstate commerce, none of this applies.

    So literally everything you wrote in your comment is wrong. Which means you didn't know anything about the subject & just made it all up based on some fantasy you had in your head. Knock that off.

  10. #6915
    Quote Originally Posted by SukijoSeiwaka  [View Original Post]
    These amateur girls are making $20,000-30,000 USD annually banging men and that's decreasing.
    Korean girls who come here & are somewhat popular make $30,000 per MONTH, not year. Some make a bit more than that, $40 k+ if they're really popular.

  11. #6914
    Quote Originally Posted by AceMcNasty  [View Original Post]
    You are joking right? HX is like spinner ebony universe. There is so much to choose from. Shoot I could spam this forum with so many reviews because I am totally addicted to anorexic ebony. I am rotating 4 of them right now. A stable regular is Carmella of course. This girl barely weighs 100 pounds, and most of that is due to her brand new massive fake titties. She can really deepthroat your cock. I mean I could feel the head slamming against the back of her throat--and no gag!

    What I love about spinners is you can really spin them around your dick during CG without having to pull out, and do a 360 degree merry go round the dick maneuver ha ha ha. If I feel like it, maybe will post reviews of my other Nubian babies but for now, here is Mella's Hx link:

    https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/FunsizedMella
    Funsized's early pictures still haunts me. Camella is a bit old and shows no pictures. What are the other options? Don't need to be spinners. Attractive will do. The new one princess something uses totally fake pictures. And her menu is fake too.

  12. #6913
    Quote Originally Posted by AceMcNasty  [View Original Post]
    This is the classic Form versus Function debate. I say the vast majority of mongers are Function dudes. They care about the performance, not so much about the looks. That is why most of the reviews here on this site are about AMP and asian-org dates. These women will give you porn star sessions. The problem is I am not attracted to 50 yo Asian grandmas, don't care if they suck like an industrial-strength Hoover Vac.

    I am in that 0. 001% group, the Form Group. My priority is to bang the girls I could not bang when I was in HS and college. So a dead fish experience to me is no big deal, because I am hard as a rock and my dick is like the mighty oak. They could play their PS5 console, watch Netflix on their phone, or replay their fav Disney movie while staring at the ceiling IDK IDC IDGAF.

    As long as my bare cock is deep inside this 18 yo redhead's ass, my dick is squirting McNasty cum deep inside this 19 yo Russian's tight pussy, and my tongue is probing the sweet, sweet lips of this 20 yo Latina spinner's poontang. Yeah no, I'm good.

    Form guy here 100%. Good luck with all you Function dudes!
    I don't believe the ratio between the numbers of the two group members is that drastic. We have to make do with compromises without plenty of bitcoins. People compromise in different ways. First, what's available determines your choices. Good-looking under 30's are rare. HX Enclave still has the occasional teen which used to be the norm. The collection here is very biased reflecting what is available.

    It's also not difficult to persuade people to act against their own interests. I asked for a $1 discount on my taxi fare as recommended. The driver dropped me off far from the bridge to save time. But why would I care about $1? And why would I be interested in "hotels" that are permanently wet on the floor and you have to tip for clean towels? And if I do it ever again I will check tities before any transaction. Boob jobs are uncommon while turn-offs are. Whereas here if you go for k-girls, breasts are the last thing you will worry about, even for grannies.

    Some elements aren't happy with specific groups. The young Asian girls in the OC forum went on for the whole month without any positive information. And Nature Spa is declared as a tourist trap, LOL.

    I also look for what I lost or never had. Therefore young attractive girls. I don't worry about dead fish but there are minimum standards. If they just lie there when I have a good fuck, it's fine by me. It's a different thing if they look at the ceiling as if they want to get it over with as soon as possible. Some are outright hostile opening up a defensive position so you can't charge enough.

    If you have a nice body I need to lick and suck and maybe bite. Or else why would I pay for that and torture myself? If you have a pretty face I want to kiss. And I want to make good use of the hole above. That's not difficult to find so I'm not compromising on that.

    Now if you have shareable info that you want to keep all for yourself, it's not helping the forum, LOL.

  13. #6912
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSkinnyPete  [View Original Post]
    GPS is real with this one:

    $400 half hr $500 hr.

    Happy to offer these services and more. BBBJ. CFS, DATY.

    My NO's: DFK, Greek, pse.

    Haha, maybe some loser might be okay with this, but I'm definitely not me.

    A lot of fish in the sea with cheaper rates. At the end of the day, an oil change is an oil change regardless of who does the changing.
    The good thing is that you may be the only half hour on the day or in the week!

    That is a special down from $450 half.

    I didn't remember she said no DFK. I did the first time. Maybe that made her change her mind, LOL. She wouldn't open her mouth the next time.

  14. #6911
    Quote Originally Posted by IslaVista  [View Original Post]
    They don't care about these skills, they just want to get paid. Sexual favors as part of a job description is coercion. But it sounds like you've convinced yourself so go ahead and do it.
    Anyone who buys "get rich quick guides" is room temp IQ already.

    If someone can actually trade at a high level at an young age, they arent selling their formulas or already works for Citadel or Moelis for $1 m+ base a year LOL.

    I think OP just wants to get some concubines for $15 k a year, where in Asia real mistress / concubines are pretty high end and expensive.

  15. #6910

    PetiteBlondegirl

    GPS is real with this one:

    $400 half hr $500 hr.

    Happy to offer these services and more. BBBJ. CFS, DATY.

    My NO's: DFK, Greek, pse.

    Haha, maybe some loser might be okay with this, but I'm definitely not me.

    A lot of fish in the sea with cheaper rates. At the end of the day, an oil change is an oil change regardless of who does the changing.

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