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  1. #868
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    Gfe

    Somebody explained to me the other day if you are not f**king then it is not a girlfriend experience.So if you get b bbbj and DATY but not full service you cant count it as GFE.

  2. #867

    Reply to Clark Kent

    Everyone is welcomed here in this thread as long as they stay within the framework sat down by the Admin. No flaming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark Kent
    I believe the girl, the surroundings and the situation all have a factor in what makes a good GFE.
    Thanks Clark Kent, for the super response. I agree with you and Artificial Red. The Girl Friend Experience is totally subjective. For example here is something a girl recently told me.

    It seems, a guy made a special request of her. He wanted her to bit down on his dick as hard as she could. At first she was reluctant, but; later agreed to the deed – after he had promised her more money. According to the girl, she bit him so hard, she got blood. As she told me the story, she laughed and said, “The funny thing was, he never came.” (At the time she was telling me this story, I wondered, what was so funny. Why had she laughed?) From the guys point of view, he had gotten GFE. He was paying to get his chumpie chomped and she had provided the proper service. That’s what he wanted and that’s what he got. It all personal. (I later figured out what the girl most have thought to be so funny. That’s got to be one of the most poplar SWer fantasies - Biting down on some assholes dick. And this guy was paying to have it done.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark Kent
    For the GFE with SWs, it depends on the person, the circumstances and the surroundings, as you're not always going to get a GFE from the same SW if, say, she's feigning for her dope or if she's had a bad day for whatever reason.
    I had forgotten this aspect the GFE. As in all human interactions, there are always correlations and causations involved. If Sabrina had had another prospective guy waiting, my time might have been shorter. If I had not been a known good tipper, my service may not have been as good. And here is a big one. What if I had not washed my ass before sticking my dick in her mouth? There are any number of reasons why a provider might default on her services. That is the reason for the reminder: YMMV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark Kent
    ...drawbacks for me in regards to her, and girls in general nowadays, is their need to have an overabundance of 'artwork' on their body.
    Ditto that. I too am not a tattoo fan. As in most tasteful art, the beauty is in the simplicity. I prefer the natural state of the human body. There is a lot to be said for the healthy, clear, shapely form.

    CookyJar

  3. #866
    I hope you don't mind comments from an outside observer in regards to GFE. I believe the girl, the surroundings and the situation all have a factor in what makes a good GFE. In general for me, a good GFE would be when there's no rush, when it appears only being with you matters, when they act like they truly want to be with you, and when they treat you like they are turned on by being with you, which in turn gets kissing like she actually wants to kiss you, and doing sexual stuff like she's turned on by doing it with you. Basically a GFE to me is her treating me as if I'm the only person she wants to be with at the time, and like she really is turned on by being with me. There's a difference obviously between the GFE and actually being a GF, and that is the fact that someone who's your GF, if she really is your GF, in most normal cases wouldn't be screwing other men. Like mentioned before in this forum, yes, I have also found SW who I have tried to treat differently than other SW, and tried to start something with them more than just an occasional date, but also like mentioned, the drugs always end up coming first. There have been times where I have felt I was the only person certain SW were 'interested' in at the time, but it may have been nothing more than I was the next one in line to be used. For the GFE with SWs, it depends on the person, the circumstances and the surroundings, as you're not always going to get a GFE from the same SW if, say, she's feigning for her dope or if she's had a bad day for whatever reason. And with me, GFE is very important in terms of being interested in picking up a girl again. Having a GFE makes you remember a certain girl, and want more. We all have had these experiences.....a girl laying there like she's elsewhere in her mind, saying she's got to be back somewhere after only 5 minutes, gagging or making faces while she's giving a BJ, repeating over and over not to cum in their mouth, complaining that you're taking too long after 30 seconds, the all popular 'are you about to cum' question, being told not to touch this or that or that she doesn't do certain things, if you're in a room the common phone ringing or knock on the door, and, asking for more money while you're in the middle of certain things you really don't want to stop. Those are all things that happen which are common with picking up SW, and are varying reasons for me not to pick someone up again. Having a true GFE with a SW is few and far between, but it can go a long way in making you want to see the girl again, and in her best interest it can help her pocketbook as well.

    And in regards to Sabrina, she's very pretty for what you normally would find where I'm from SW wise, and she's got a very healthy and sexually pleasing body. The only drawbacks for me in regards to her, and girls in general nowadays, is their need to have an overabundance of 'artwork' on their body. A small discreet one or two is fine, but putting them all over their arms, legs, chest and stomach just ruins the beauty that is the female form, in my opinion. I, for one, will be glad when the overwhelming popularity of tattoos is over.

  4. #865
    Quote Originally Posted by CookyJar
    I am still not understanding. What exactly is meant by, "GFE?" CookyJar
    GFE, Girl Friend Experience. Once again I'll say that it is up the the guy what he considers a good GFE. I think it comes down to what that guy is missing from his significant other, or lack thereof. This makes me think of a conversation during a rare, for me, visit with a somewhat higher end escort.

    The girl in question sometimes posts on CL, is a stripper and has done porn. I had read some stories and reviews about her and had gathered that she is somewhat of a PSE, Porn Star Experience. For me, I had assumed this would mean some crazy positions, maybe some sort of acrobatic fucking, and a facial. When I asked about this she assumed what I wanted was full service, all bareback, and I got a flat out no. This was not what I was looking for, so was ok with the no, but the point is that, once again, the definition varies based on the wants and intents of the patron.

    Red

  5. #864
    Quote Originally Posted by CookyJar
    I know this girl; she is very cute, always clean and fresh, very pleasant and when you can find her, she give the same service. She doe not do f/s, mouth kissing, DATY or anal. This girl only does car date, BBBJs. She is very good at giving BJs. You can rub her ass and play with her tits, but no kitty touching. It's good service, but is it GFE service?
    Yes.

    If you're into a 1950's GF, that is.

    Moving along:
    Quote Originally Posted by CookyJar
    Would she be as popular if all she had was a good BJ?
    No, probably not. Then again, good BJ skills can take a girl a long way in this world.

  6. #863

    I agree

    I see a regular girl in my bit of the woods as much as possible because she is fun and about as GFE as I have ever found. I also spend alot of dollars with her also, her theatrics are second to none. Nothing is off limits with her and I know she has a man but she makes me feel like a million bucks. So yes I know what its like to have a special girl.

    Happy Hunting..

    Quote Originally Posted by CookyJar
    Good point R Consultant.

    Good providers, especially experienced MILF, are often also good actress. They leave you smiling and with the belief that you've just had a good time with someone who gives a fuck. Sure it’s a performance; but I want it, after all, I am paying for it – aren’t I? When I am with Dyan (from Camden) it’s like I am with a friend who fucks and sucks the hell out of me and then leaves with my money. She is all smiles, hugs and kisses, and she knows I am coming back for more. I know, deep down inside, that she does not love me, she may not even like me, shit, she could hate me for all I know – but, I am coming back for more. Why?

    Take a look at Dyan’s pictures in my reviews, Summer - Another Little Minx and Dyan (Summer) A Oldie But A Goodie . Do a search for Dyan in the NJ, Camden General Thread and you’ll find her to be one of the most reviewed girls. And most, if not all of her reviews are favorable. She may not be the best looking girl out there. And yes; she gives a fabulous BJ. But, looks and BJs alone do not get a girl the type of fan club Dyan has. Check out her reviews. Why is she so popular? Would she be as popular if all she had was a good BJ? Or, is she so popular because of her, “GFE,” talents? The “GFE,” may be an act, but it does matter.

    That’s MHO.

    CookyJar

  7. #862
    Quote Originally Posted by R Consultant
    ...We all know the emotions are artificial most of the time, as she just wants to get paid and move on to the next guy.

    Happy Hunting..
    Good point R Consultant.

    Good providers, especially experienced MILF, are often also good actress. They leave you smiling and with the belief that you've just had a good time with someone who gives a fuck. Sure it’s a performance; but I want it, after all, I am paying for it – aren’t I? When I am with Dyan (from Camden) it’s like I am with a friend who fucks and sucks the hell out of me and then leaves with my money. She is all smiles, hugs and kisses, and she knows I am coming back for more. I know, deep down inside, that she does not love me, she may not even like me, shit, she could hate me for all I know – but, I am coming back for more. Why?

    Take a look at Dyan’s pictures in my reviews, Summer - Another Little Minx and Dyan (Summer) A Oldie But A Goodie . Do a search for Dyan in the NJ, Camden General Thread and you’ll find her to be one of the most reviewed girls. And most, if not all of her reviews are favorable. She may not be the best looking girl out there. And yes; she gives a fabulous BJ. But, looks and BJs alone do not get a girl the type of fan club Dyan has. Check out her reviews. Why is she so popular? Would she be as popular if all she had was a good BJ? Or, is she so popular because of her, “GFE,” talents? The “GFE,” may be an act, but it does matter.

    That’s MHO.

    CookyJar

  8. #861
    Quote Originally Posted by Artificial Red
    To answer your questions in order;

    I think what makes a good GFE depends on personal preference. For me, it's her giving up a level of intimacy. This could be honest conversation, eye contact, kissing, not jumping out of bed. I had one girl who I saw for some time who I called Squeaky because everytime we met up or ran into each other she would smile from ear to ear and giggle(which sounded squeaky to me) while giving me a big hug and a kiss on the cheek. Loved it. That qualifies for GFE with me.
    Artificial Red,

    I re-read your post and now I get your point. I agree with you, it does depend alot on personal preference. But, does just being friendly and out going qualify as, "GFE?"

    I have had first time dates where the girl started off being cuddly and sweet, but ended up in a rush. I have also been in lots of situations where an actually girl friend has been in a rush. We usually called these rushed fucks, Quickies. Being rushed by a GF (a quicky) is not the same as being rushed by a SW. When my girl and I grabbed a quicky it was a turn-on. When rushed by a SW, it's a turn-off. Hmmmmm!

    CookyJar

  9. #860
    Quote Originally Posted by Artificial Red
    To answer your questions in order;...

    How important is GFE? Factors in order of importance to me: Looks, Hygiene, Attitude, Performance, Reliability, GFE. I consider it to be a bonus, and mostly works to entice me to repeat visits.
    I am still not understanding. What exactly is meant by, "GFE?"

    I know this girl; she is very cute, always clean and fresh, very pleasant and when you can find her, she give the same service. She doe not do f/s, mouth kissing, DATY or anal. This girl only does car date, BBBJs. She is very good at giving BJs. You can rub her ass and play with her tits, but no kitty touching. It's good service, but is it GFE service?

    CookyJar

  10. #859

    Questions

    What makes for a good GFE?
    A woman who is enjoying herself as much as me. A woman can share and enjoy the same level of enthusiasm as Im giving to her.
    What makes a SW a good GF?
    I have tried in the years and so far the drugs they do win everytime. So to me I have yet to find a SW that I can consider a GF. They do everyone who will donate to the cause.
    Does a provider have to give a good GFE in order to be a decent provider?
    Not to me, I just want a woman who knows how to please and gets into the whole deal. We all know the emotions are artificial most of the time, as she just wants to get paid and move on to the next guy. If she didnt a provider wouldnt have a black book of her own.
    How important is GFE?
    Im with "AR" on this one-Looks, Hygiene, Attitude, Performance, Reliability, and her mind frame. I like them to be straight not all laced out on drugs and so forth.

    Thats my take..

    Happy Hunting..

  11. #858
    Quote Originally Posted by CookyJar
    I have gotten lots of good advice from members of this board. And for the life of me, I cannot think of one good reason why we should not discuss the varied intricacies of our hobby. Sharing our opinions can only strengthen our knowledge and make us better hunters. With that in mind, here are a few questions I’d like to put to the forum: What makes for a good GFE? What makes a SW a good GF? Does a provider have to give a good GFE in order to be a decent provider? How important is GFE?

    CookyJar
    To answer your questions in order;

    I think what makes a good GFE depends on personal preference. For me, it's her giving up a level of intimacy. This could be honest conversation, eye contact, kissing, not jumping out of bed. I had one girl who I saw for some time who I called Squeaky because everytime we met up or ran into each other she would smile from ear to ear and giggle(which sounded squeaky to me) while giving me a big hug and a kiss on the cheek. Loved it. That qualifies for GFE with me.

    I've been mongering for around 12 years, and I don't think I've ever met a SW I thought would be a good girlfriend. The main reason? Once a girl makes a commitment to me, I'm not willing to share. Have I met SWers I liked enough for that kind of relationship? You bet. Like I said though, not sharing.

    Does a provider have to give a good GFE to be a good provider? Once again, I think this is personal preference. I'm going to say no to this, however some level of GFE, reliability and good hygiene will get repeat visits from me.

    How important is GFE? Factors in order of importance to me: Looks, Hygiene, Attitude, Performance, Reliability, GFE. I consider it to be a bonus, and mostly works to entice me to repeat visits.

  12. #857

    Sabrina - A true GFE - IMHO

    Quote Originally Posted by Coconut Poke
    The "opinions" are boring and silly (Did you catch the weighty ponderings about taking/not taking a gun out on mongering trips, or shaved/not shaved pussy, or fat/not fat asses? ),…
    I have gotten lots of good advice from members of this board. And for the life of me, I cannot think of one good reason why we should not discuss the varied intricacies of our hobby. Sharing our opinions can only strengthen our knowledge and make us better hunters. With that in mind, here are a few questions I’d like to put to the forum: What makes for a good GFE? What makes a SW a good GF? Does a provider have to give a good GFE in order to be a decent provider? How important is GFE?

    CookyJar
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  13. #856

    Sabrina – A Full Service Provider

    Some of you younger guy will not remember this; but, back in the good old days when gas was 35 cents a gallon, all gas stations were “Full Service.” Whenever you pull into any gas station you got full service. That meant they checked everything, your tires, your wind shield wiper fluid, the oil under the hood, cleaned out you ash tray – they checked everything. Sabrina is a true “Full Service Provider,” she does it all and she leaves nothing undone. The really good part is, she does it all well.

    It is time to clear a few things up. Like, what do I mean by “Girl Friend Experience.” I want to point out that I have had some girl friends who; while they were pretty and nice to be with, they couldn’t fuck for shit. We have all probably had good girl friends that were bad fuck. Either they just laid there or they were prudes. How often have we heard: No, I don’t do that or stop! It’s too big, or No! That’s nasty, you’re too freaky, or let’s just make love; from a great girl who won’t let us fuck them the way we want. Is that what I’m talking about? Hell no! That kind of thing may be alright from a girl friend. But, from a Street Walker, I don’t want to hear the word, “No.” I want my Street Walkers to be as freaky and perverted as I am. When I say a girl provides a good GFE, I’m talking about the type of girl friend who lets you get down and dirty with her, because she is comfortable in the relationship. I’m talking about the type of young inexperience girl, who’ll let you fuck her any which way – because “She loves you.” I’m talking about the girl who fucks you like a wild *****, because she’s trying to keep you home with her. I’m talking about the girl friend who fucks like a *****, because she like to fuck as much as you do. That’s the type of girl friend that I’m referring to when I say “She provides GFE.” Sabrina provides a true GFE, in every sense of the phase.

    Sabrina and I spent a lot of time together. We did some cuddling and some talking; but mostly we fucked. I lost count of the positions we tried. I hit it: mish, in the chair, kneeling on the side of the bed, against the wall and doggy on the bed. She gave me a bbbj as I sat on the bed and she kneeled on the floor, she blew and licked my dick as I titty fucked her, she let me climb on top of her and she deep throated as I face fucked her. On the tamer side, she gently sucked me as I lay back resting. Sabrina’s attention to small details, like gently cradling and handling my balls while she licked and sucked earned her very high marks in my book.

    Sabrina’s only fault (nobody is prefect), is that she is not a self starter. You have to ask for what you want, in order to get it. Nothing I asked for was denied. This is not necessarily a bad thing. There are a few things that I don’t do and I don’t want providers to attempt. For example: I like being licked and if a girls wants to lick she is pretty much on her own (know what I mean); but, she shouldn’t try sticking anything, including her tongue in my ass. Also, I don’t DATY or tongue kiss with ladies of the street. I have had girls who have tried to force the issue without asking first. Sabrina has the nice habit of asking or waiting to be asked. Once Sabrina know what you want, you’ve got it and believe you me, it’s all good.

    Sabrina, for all that she does, is not pricey. However, it is for that same reason (all that she does), that I tip her and tip her good. This is probably why I always get good service. Sabrina has never asked for anything beyond the normal Kensington Ave fair market price. I think it is only right that after spending so much time with her, (over an hour, maybe a hour and a half), after all she did and let me do, that she be properly compensated. Without spoiling her, I upped the tip nearer to the low CL range. Why tip at all you might ask? I want her to remember me fondly, the way I remember her.

    Sabrina has been review in this forum by me in The EXTRAVAGANZA (along with her friend Samatha and again in When Old Friends Meet Again (follow the links to see these old post). She has also been reviewed and reported on by a few other senior members. We all agree that she is always clean and one of the best kept girls on the “K.” I want to add one more thing to her information Bio. I don’t believe Sabrina to be a user of the top two preferred drugs. She manages to keep her weight up and there are no needle marks. She may do some of the other recreational designer drugs but she is not a crack head or a doper (IMHO).

    I love this girl. YMMV

    CookyJar
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  14. #855

    Chelsea, a few observations from an old timer

    Quote Originally Posted by CookyJar
    Chelsea is the real reason for this post. I have reason to believe that Chelsea is a long time resident of Kensington Avenue and that she has gone by other names. We spent a rather lengthy time together and every minute was full of fun and laughs. Chelsea is returning to us after a lengthy stays in one of the cities involuntary vacation spots. She almost refused to have her pictures taken because she thought herself to big. No way! Chelsea is healthy and that’s a good thing. She is not flabby. She is firm. She is a lot to get your arms around but it is all good, solid, and firm and fully packed. Chelsea is a decent get away from some of the skinny bag of bones or loose skinned sacks crowding the avenues. She may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I suggest - try it, you might like it.

    Chelsea was very clean and smelled freshly showered. It was her idea to shave her twat, once she agreed to the pictures. It was my idea to do it downstairs for the camera. She was very accommodating. A true GFE is what I got. To my regret, she only offered a CBJ. However, F/S and anal was on the table. I accepted the CBJ, mish and doggie style F/S. The anal was a little to must extra for my taste.

    Chelsea and I drank a few coolers, cuddled and enjoyed each others company for awhile. I’d do her again in a heart beat. Don’t let the pictures fool you, she is cuter in person.
    It’s all about attitude and Chelsea had a nice one (with nice tits to match). YMMV

    CookyJar
    Sir you are right, I am an old timer and I now see it, she looks familar about who knows how many pounds heaver, but yes it's her. I recognize her and back a few years ago she was very difficult, but did have a decent personaility and would hang out as friends and talk, this seems to be consistant with her story. She was skin and bones at one time! OMG, I saw her three times till I recognized her her actual name is not Chelsea, but I will respect what she says today. Always got the feeling she could be nice but addiction ruled her life, after a few few vacations she seems to be back. Cookie you are the real thing, I admire your guts with the pics! Continue as it is interesting!

  15. #854
    Quote Originally Posted by CockMaster
    Cookyjar man,

    Dude all you need to do is look at Cindy face. WoW. Tell me you could not see the fact. That she was way off her meds. And hurting. Dude. All of your work is cool. For real. But this one. Dude. Is not GOOD or Cool. Sorry
    Her face is fine. Handsome I must say.

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