Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**RufusFirefly** · 07-26-23 05:42

Originally Posted by MallGuy101 [View Original Post]

I wish that every monger that caves into an escorts request for pre or partial payment would suffer cash and grab, I have talked via text with at least six escorts this week that want some money up front, that have gotten kind of nasty in there response. Maybe they are all in the cash and grab category, Almost all of them say well I have been robbed or cheated why are you lumping me in a group of bad apples when you have never met me. My response is well is that not what you are doing to me? And some even get nasty after that. After I send the initial text to see if they will reply to me. If they do reply I explain what I would like to do and than add to be up front I have this policy I never ever do a prepay or deposit and I only hand over donation after we are done playing and give them a reason why. I also say if you are unwilling to do this I can understand your right to feel that way. So no harm no foul we will just have to go our own ways and I wish you well and stay safe. And boy with some of the replies I have gotten you would think I had jumped into a shark pool. I reply and say I would rather pass on a pretty woman than take a chance on getting taken. The only reason they are doing this is because enough people are handing over the money. This is just like an average escort developing GPS and asking 130 for quick visit 190 a hhr and 250 for hr. They are only doing this because we keep letting the little head take control and are paying it. There are many nice ones out there one or two maybe a little rough around the edges but I have never had a real problems with with these. Stephany in Morrow, Alana or Alans she has it both ways in her ad. She does have one bad habit if you say I would like to see you tonight at 12 in the afternoon and she says great and six or seven o'clock comes around and I have texted and go no reply. It seem once she stops working for whatever reason she no longer reply's but has gotten back to me with sorry. Crystal has been super nice and fun. Faith when I have connected her she has never let me down. Even one or two that I can't recommend did not have an issue waiting until after playing. One was Ryot seems like nice girl but her falling asleep and me having to almost violently shaking her and calling her name to get her to wake up I will not see or give a recommendation only to say I wish there were a couple more escorts that would shave there head, And Ruggies when she is not playing games she is one of the best but over the past few months I have gotten tired of her games For right now I am done with her and blocked her number. But I will tell you this is she plays games or ghosts you write a nasty report on her. And 95% or the time you will hear back from her. She hates seeing a bad review with her name on it. And pretty much in the last year I have PM many who complained I said to the you will probably hear back from he trying to make amends, and they said they did. As alway with every escort YMMV. And if anyone has questions please fee free to PM me.

I never pay anything up front. I never talk money and services until we have started. I do not send pictures. If a lady does not like that and they get nasty I am thankful because I do not want to see someone like that. I treat the ladies very well and I expect to be treated nice.

Guys need to remember they have the upper hand and use it.

**Vinnie Kramer** · 07-25-23 17:30

Perhaps, maybe just for a minute or two, consider the likelihood that many of the "escorts" you are communicating with are actually Nigerian / Russian / American scammers and not really girls in the Cincy area.

Excluding the girls you note below, I don't think there are 6 more legit girls advertising.

Originally Posted by MallGuy101 [View Original Post]

I wish that every monger that caves into an escorts request for pre or partial payment would suffer cash and grab, I have talked via text with at least six escorts this week that want some money up front, that have gotten kind of nasty in there response. Maybe they are all in the cash and grab category, Almost all of them say well I have been robbed or cheated why are you lumping me in a group of bad apples when you have never met me. My response is well is that not what you are doing to me? And some even get nasty after that. After I send the initial text to see if they will reply to me. If they do reply I explain what I would like to do and than add to be up front I have this policy I never ever do a prepay or deposit and I only hand over donation after we are done playing and give them a reason why. I also say if you are unwilling to do this I can understand your right to feel that way. There are many nice ones out there one or two maybe a little rough around the edges but I have never had a real problems with with these. Stephany in Morrow, Alana or Alans she has it both ways in her ad. She does have one bad habit if you say I would like to see you tonight at 12 in the afternoon and she says great and six or seven o'clock comes around and I have texted and go no reply. It seem once she stops working for whatever reason she no longer reply's but has gotten back to me with sorry. Crystal has been super nice and fun. Faith when I have connected her she has never let me down. Even one or two that I can't recommend did not have an issue waiting until after playing. One was Ryot seems like nice girl but her falling asleep and me having to almost violently shaking her and calling her name to get her to wake up I will not see or give a recommendation only to say I wish there were a couple more escorts that would shave there head, And Ruggies when she is not playing games she is one of the best but over the past few months I have gotten tired of her games For right now I am done with her and blocked her number.

**Mall Guy101** · 07-25-23 15:56

I wish that every monger that caves into an escorts request for pre or partial payment would suffer cash and grab, I have talked via text with at least six escorts this week that want some money up front, that have gotten kind of nasty in there response. Maybe they are all in the cash and grab category, Almost all of them say well I have been robbed or cheated why are you lumping me in a group of bad apples when you have never met me. My response is well is that not what you are doing to me? And some even get nasty after that. After I send the initial text to see if they will reply to me. If they do reply I explain what I would like to do and than add to be up front I have this policy I never ever do a prepay or deposit and I only hand over donation after we are done playing and give them a reason why. I also say if you are unwilling to do this I can understand your right to feel that way. So no harm no foul we will just have to go our own ways and I wish you well and stay safe. And boy with some of the replies I have gotten you would think I had jumped into a shark pool. I reply and say I would rather pass on a pretty woman than take a chance on getting taken. The only reason they are doing this is because enough people are handing over the money. This is just like an average escort developing GPS and asking 130 for quick visit 190 a hhr and 250 for hr. They are only doing this because we keep letting the little head take control and are paying it. There are many nice ones out there one or two maybe a little rough around the edges but I have never had a real problems with with these. Stephany in Morrow, Alana or Alans she has it both ways in her ad. She does have one bad habit if you say I would like to see you tonight at 12 in the afternoon and she says great and six or seven o'clock comes around and I have texted and go no reply. It seem once she stops working for whatever reason she no longer reply's but has gotten back to me with sorry. Crystal has been super nice and fun. Faith when I have connected her she has never let me down. Even one or two that I can't recommend did not have an issue waiting until after playing. One was Ryot seems like nice girl but her falling asleep and me having to almost violently shaking her and calling her name to get her to wake up I will not see or give a recommendation only to say I wish there were a couple more escorts that would shave there head, And Ruggies when she is not playing games she is one of the best but over the past few months I have gotten tired of her games For right now I am done with her and blocked her number. But I will tell you this is she plays games or ghosts you write a nasty report on her. And 95% or the time you will hear back from her. She hates seeing a bad review with her name on it. And pretty much in the last year I have PM many who complained I said to the you will probably hear back from he trying to make amends, and they said they did. As alway with every escort YMMV. And if anyone has questions please fee free to PM me.

**Dillsborodave** · 07-24-23 16:05

Useless Tart Report.

**RufusFirefly** · 07-24-23 05:46

Originally Posted by SnarkDog54 [View Original Post]

That scam has been reported here quite a few times.

I got a letter in the mail from the county requiring me to pay over $3500 for property tax.

**Hillbilly Bob** · 07-23-23 19:11

Originally Posted by DistantFirtst [View Original Post]

Yesterday, I got a text and then a call from someone claiming to "own the escort service", and that I had to pay $3000 immediately for "wasting my girls' time" and if I didn't he was going to send his hit men to kill me and my family. Blocked all the numbers and buttoned down my privacy settings on socials. Just recieved another text saying a death warrant has been issued for me and my family, etc.

Did my research and this seems to be a common scam, but it's still terrifying. Just wonderiing if anyone else has had anything like this happen?

Yes had the same text with pictures of mutilated bodies said they were going to kill my family. I ask if they would start with my ex-wife I would send address nothing back.

**Mall Guy101** · 07-23-23 18:13

Originally Posted by DistantFirtst [View Original Post]

Yesterday, I got a text and then a call from someone claiming to "own the escort service", and that I had to pay $3000 immediately for "wasting my girls' time" and if I didn't he was going to send his hit men to kill me and my family. Blocked all the numbers and buttoned down my privacy settings on socials. Just recieved another text saying a death warrant has been issued for me and my family, etc.

Did my research and this seems to be a common scam, but it's still terrifying. Just wondering if anyone else has had anything like this happen?

As others have said it's a scam one person that reported he got one. Then when to his gun cases opened them up to show a big verity of weapons took pictures and sent text back saying bring it on. One time I ran into a scam they called. And I talked to them and they went on and on what they were going to do I had someone in the house say something that they would over hear, and had them say just another 15 seconds we should have this call traced they hung up and never called back. But talking about scams like this there was one reported on the news this week where a mother got a call and she could hear her daughter screaming in the background as the kidnapers where demanding they come up with ransom. She knows her daughters voice and new it was her, Fortunately her husband was home and does work in security called and facetimed his daughter she answered and he could see all was okay what happened the bad guys got a copy of her voice maybe from ease dropping on a conversation she was having and used AI to copy her voice. So it was a copy Ai used to generate what they wanted the voice to say. People in security are now advising families to come up with code words that they will not forget in a time of stress to help you decide if it's real or fake.

**SnarkDog54** · 07-23-23 17:24

Originally Posted by DistantFirtst [View Original Post]

Yesterday, I got a text and then a call from someone claiming to "own the escort service", and that I had to pay $3000 immediately for "wasting my girls' time" and if I didn't he was going to send his hit men to kill me and my family. Blocked all the numbers and buttoned down my privacy settings on socials. Just recieved another text saying a death warrant has been issued for me and my family, etc.

Did my research and this seems to be a common scam, but it's still terrifying. Just wonderiing if anyone else has had anything like this happen?

That scam has been reported here quite a few times.

**DistantFirtst** · 07-23-23 17:13

Yesterday, I got a text and then a call from someone claiming to "own the escort service", and that I had to pay $3000 immediately for "wasting my girls' time" and if I didn't he was going to send his hit men to kill me and my family. Blocked all the numbers and buttoned down my privacy settings on socials. Just recieved another text saying a death warrant has been issued for me and my family, etc.

Did my research and this seems to be a common scam, but it's still terrifying. Just wonderiing if anyone else has had anything like this happen?

**WanderingAbout** · 07-22-23 14:26

On their public wifi you can access sex websites but gambling and lottery ticket websites are blocked. Against company policy FYI.

**RufusFirefly** · 07-16-23 06:38

Originally Posted by MallGuy101 [View Original Post]

Most escorts will not give you exact location until you get there for various reasons. Some want to see or have there look out see what kind of car you drive up in, Another they do not want you walking up to the door unannounced. There previous customer my still be there or they need time to clean up. When I start my conversations with an escort one of the first general questions I ask I'd what area they are in. I tell them so its I get an idea how far away they are. Than if we have gotten to the point we want to get together. I say could you give me an address of were or near where your at so I can put into my GPS so that why I can tell you how long it will take me to get there. If it's the first meeting I give a later time than the GPS says so I can scope the place out and to see if there might be an unwanted surprise waiting. Than once I am there I will text and ask what is the room number. I never expect to get the room number till I get there would you want an escort coming up to your house / room unannounced and banging on your door. And from years of experience over 90% of the escorts that do out calls arrive over 10 minuets later they told you and over 90% of the escorts are not ready once you get there.

This is very good information. I will add that when I first contact a lady I will ask what area of town they are in and I tell them it is important to plan a visit. That gives the chance for me to see if it is a scam too. If they do not provide an area then I leave it be.

Once we make a plan for a visit I ask for instructions as soon as possible. Many will not provide until 30 minutes prior.

**Hooter12** · 07-15-23 15:02

Originally Posted by HornyAsHell [View Original Post]

That asshole came into the SW section with a condescending holier than thou attitude and insulted us when he does not even contribute there at all.

I simply pointed out that he is not better than anybody else and that if you think you are you're very wrong because the whole goddamn pool of pussy is all the same no matter where you go! Anyone that is playing and is getting more than a hand job (covered or not) is at the same damn risk level and it's actually safer on the streets because at least 80% of the action is just blow job only which is the statistically safer than any kind of full-service covered or not! But the FS AMP's and the hotel girls are just about 100% FS which is significantly higher risk (covered or not).

Not to mention the fact that half of these "hotel girls" that everyone thinks is safe are former street walkers and still have a drug habit. Some perfect examples are Anna from Kentucky, Joy, Jordan, and Kiersten are all former street walkers. They just have a smart phone now and they all offer bareback services too! Fact.

In addition, all "regular providers" have a much higher overhead than SW's do. The hotel rooms aren't cheap. Food delivery etc. The traveling ladies all have airfare and Ubers or car rentals on top of that. Higher overhead even at higher rates means more volume just to cover expenses. More volume is higher risk. The bareback guys push for it, give excuses or pay more.

Funny guy.

**Mall Guy101** · 07-15-23 13:06

Originally Posted by Space80 [View Original Post]

Do why'all hate it when you get everything setup with a girl and you ask for her location / address and she responds with what area she is in. For example:

Me:"What's your address?

Her:"I'm in Clifton. ".

Me:"Cool, where at in Clifton?

Her:"At my apartment / House. ".

Me:" Oh thanks, that totally helps. I guess I'll just knock on every door in Clifton until I find yours".

It could just be me but this shit pisses me off. I just end up saying fuck it and look elsewhere.

Most escorts will not give you exact location until you get there for various reasons. Some want to see or have there look out see what kind of car you drive up in, Another they do not want you walking up to the door unannounced. There previous customer my still be there or they need time to clean up. When I start my conversations with an escort one of the first general questions I ask I'd what area they are in. I tell them so its I get an idea how far away they are. Than if we have gotten to the point we want to get together. I say could you give me an address of were or near where your at so I can put into my GPS so that why I can tell you how long it will take me to get there. If it's the first meeting I give a later time than the GPS says so I can scope the place out and to see if there might be an unwanted surprise waiting. Than once I am there I will text and ask what is the room number. I never expect to get the room number till I get there would you want an escort coming up to your house / room unannounced and banging on your door. And from years of experience over 90% of the escorts that do out calls arrive over 10 minuets later they told you and over 90% of the escorts are not ready once you get there.

**Space80** · 07-15-23 07:09

Do why'all hate it when you get everything setup with a girl and you ask for her location / address and she responds with what area she is in. For example:

Me:"What's your address?

Her:"I'm in Clifton. ".

Me:"Cool, where at in Clifton?

Her:"At my apartment / House. ".

Me:" Oh thanks, that totally helps. I guess I'll just knock on every door in Clifton until I find yours".

It could just be me but this shit pisses me off. I just end up saying fuck it and look elsewhere.

**Horny As Hell** · 07-13-23 15:13

That asshole came into the SW section with a condescending holier than thou attitude and insulted us when he does not even contribute there at all.

I simply pointed out that he is not better than anybody else and that if you think you are you're very wrong because the whole goddamn pool of pussy is all the same no matter where you go! Anyone that is playing and is getting more than a hand job (covered or not) is at the same damn risk level and it's actually safer on the streets because at least 80% of the action is just blow job only which is the statistically safer than any kind of full-service covered or not! But the FS AMP's and the hotel girls are just about 100% FS which is significantly higher risk (covered or not).

Not to mention the fact that half of these "hotel girls" that everyone thinks is safe are former street walkers and still have a drug habit. Some perfect examples are Anna from Kentucky, Joy, Jordan, and Kiersten are all former street walkers. They just have a smart phone now and they all offer bareback services too! Fact.

In addition, all "regular providers" have a much higher overhead than SW's do. The hotel rooms aren't cheap. Food delivery etc. The traveling ladies all have airfare and Ubers or car rentals on top of that. Higher overhead even at higher rates means more volume just to cover expenses. More volume is higher risk. The bareback guys push for it, give excuses or pay more. That increases everyone's risk level. The AMP guys that go to Sakura etc are dabbling with a lady that has more customers in one day than an SW does all week and at a higher risk too. Even the ladies that have a reputation of covered everything break those rules for their regulars or someone that pays them enough.

So all of you self centered idiots that think you're better need to realize that you ain't. Wake the fuck up.

Originally Posted by Vilnius [View Original Post]

He didn't ever say anything about being safe. The original comment was about a toothy BJ from a toothless SW. How you made the jump from that "You think you're too good for street pussy" is fucking wild to me. Also, I do hope that you're not arguing that there is the same level of risk in meeting a SW in LPH in your car as there is in going to a provider's non-notel incall. Could you get an STD in either situation? Yeah, sure, but I'll take my chances on the girl that still has it together enough to get her teeth fixed. Not to mention the fact that one thing is definitely more likely to get you robbed than the other. Nothing we do is "safe", but there are definitely degrees to it. Stop acting like there aren't LOL.