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  1. #23151
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoota  [View Original Post]
    For what it's worth, Ivy expressed to me it has been slow ever since I started seeing her about a year ago. But I think your comment about things being slow beyond just Golden Ocean might be true. I just think there are so many options these days that the supply is outweighing the demand. The exception to this is are the places that offer something so niche that mongers come flocking in. For example, free threesomes, bigger than normal titties, hot chicks that do anal, gorgeous GFE in her low 20's, hot young chicks giving extra mileage at a non-FS place, etc.

    If business is slow on a per spa basis is true, does the collective group here think this is causing the ladies to demand higher tips? Every 'new-to-me' girl at non-FS places I have seen within the last few months have all jockeyed for higher tips. Am I just a Cheap Charlie, is inflation hitting the ladies hard, or is business so slow that it's making them more desperate to get paid above and beyond?
    Could be it is slower because inflation is hitting us customers. Higher entrance and assumed tips along with cost of living inflation. I think some of these girls see us paying more than usual and are just trying to see how much they can get away with asking for.

    What used to be $80 otd is now $120. Hits a little harder each time out. This could attribute to less traffic at non-FS places. This has personally changed my willingness to explore new places and put up with Massage Envy type massages.

  2. #23150
    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzier1  [View Original Post]
    Hey Rolf!

    I've tried Gold Ocean a few times hoping for Ivy, but glad that your review allows me to cross her off my list. Both times I got Mia. She's cute enough, but reserved with no tease, and we both ended up watching the monitor during the main event. Jojo apparently has nice tits, which I'm a sucker for (quite literally) so there may still be a chance for something good if I go back.

    I do feel on the whole traffic is down. My guess is prices are way up, not just massages, but cost of living. I know I've practically cut my mongering in half. Part of it is prices, but it's mostly I've tried all the good leads I've come across and have narrowed it down to a few worth repeating. On the whole it's either bad providers at good spots, or decent providers at bad spots. I'm also into fetish, so FS or younger isn't enough to get me to go back.
    Yeah, it's probably a totally different vibe seeing a nonFS provider for the first time, so my report on Ivy wouldn't really be valid. She talks up a storm with me, although I've known her for a long while. LOL.

    Yes, Ivy has told me ever since they moved to Gold Ocean from Harmony a little over a year ago that it's a pretty slow location. Way too much competition on Convoy. FWIW, Gold Ocean was totally remodeled in 2019 when I used to see another provider there. It is nice, and still a newer feel to it.

  3. #23149

    Thanks for the TOFFT

    Quote Originally Posted by PfiftySoCal  [View Original Post]
    I mostly look for places that can provide a good 1 hour massage with a nice HE, though recently I decided to try out BBBJ too, with good experiences at Crystal Spa off Convoy and Luxe Spa.

    About 7 months ago there was a report about someone experiencing BBBJ at Level 2 on Convoy (there is more than one Level 2 in San Diego), so even though the report wasn't current, I thought I would try out Level 2 for the first time. And no name was provided, so I was going in blind.

    Level 2 is upstairs, and I thought it would end up being some small retail-like joint, but maybe they took over a previous medical office, because it is BIG inside. A really wide desk, and they have at least 10 rooms and a table shower (no extra fee for that). The HF for 1 hour was $60, and the rooms were not big but the vibe was a HE only place. The girl that was sitting with the MMS when I walked in is who I got, and she was 40 ish, with a perky personality. We did the TS first (I had been exercising, and wanted to be clean for any fun), and there was lots of fun sudsing going on, then headed back to the room. The massage was mid-level, starting out with just pushing, but finally got to more of a massage when oil was finally added. Finally got to the flip and she asked what I wanted, and I asked what was available, and as I had already been roaming up top she asked if I wanted the top to come off, and then she slid the chair with my clothes over and asked for the tip. I offered my normal HE tip, but she countered with something higher, and feeling kind of pressured I gave in to something not as much as she wanted, but more than I normally would care to tip. Then the HJ was lacking technique, though she was doing lots of moaning to help (didn't though), and finally I had to take over. I won't say who I had, but I would not recommend her, and felt like I TOFTT considering I have other options and won't need to come back to try someone else. Pushing up front for the tip was what I think bugged me the most, but that is not unusual. And maybe extras come with more visits, but I didn't get enough value out of this visit to return. YMMV.
    I remember that report and have had it in my notes to give that place a shot. Appreciate the report and TOFFT. I can cross it off my list.

  4. #23148

    Ivy Intel

    Quote Originally Posted by RolfTorren  [View Original Post]
    Did some preliminary reconnaissance before throwing my buddy in at the deep end. I called and made an appointment with Ivy at Golden Ocean last week. Parking was easy in mid-afternoon, but could be tougher later in the day with the great restaurants in the vicinity. Ivy greeted me and asked me to take a seat while she got the room ready. The place is clean and comfortable. I paid the 60 hf for 1 hr. Ivy is very presentable, and somewhere in MILF territory. She was demure and reserved. That didn't change throughout the session. Not much conversation either. We began with the sheet on top and and then the sheet off for an oil massage. Pressure was great and it was on the "therapeutic" end of the dial, rather than the "sensual". Very little teasing before the flip and then she proceeded to a nice HJ. No access given or requested. I tipped 60. All in all a relaxing session, but kind of low key. I prefer someone a little more friendly and definitely need more teasing these days.

    One thing to note, and this goes beyond Golden Ocean. I asked her how things had been. Slow, busy, etc? She told me slow, and during the hour there I never heard another customer enter or sight or sound of a co-provider. Further afield in recent visits to other spas, both FS and non-FS, my general impression is that things are slow at the moment with fewer customers. Not sure why, but all the ladies I've spoken to had much the same thing to say. I'm sure places like Erma have done well, with recent premier providers and lots of chatter on the board. But I'm just wondering why the overall impression I have is that business is down. Not sure why. Prices, time of year, who knows? And maybe my impressions are just out of line with what's happening overall. Just my two cents.
    Hey Rolf!

    I've tried Gold Ocean a few times hoping for Ivy, but glad that your review allows me to cross her off my list. Both times I got Mia. She's cute enough, but reserved with no tease, and we both ended up watching the monitor during the main event. Jojo apparently has nice tits, which I'm a sucker for (quite literally) so there may still be a chance for something good if I go back.

    I do feel on the whole traffic is down. My guess is prices are way up, not just massages, but cost of living. I know I've practically cut my mongering in half. Part of it is prices, but it's mostly I've tried all the good leads I've come across and have narrowed it down to a few worth repeating. On the whole it's either bad providers at good spots, or decent providers at bad spots. I'm also into fetish, so FS or younger isn't enough to get me to go back.

  5. #23147

    Slow business and tipping dynamics

    Quote Originally Posted by RolfTorren  [View Original Post]
    One thing to note, and this goes beyond Golden Ocean. I asked her how things had been. Slow, busy, etc? She told me slow, and during the hour there I never heard another customer enter or sight or sound of a co-provider. Further afield in recent visits to other spas, both FS and non-FS, my general impression is that things are slow at the moment with fewer customers. Not sure why, but all the ladies I've spoken to had much the same thing to say. I'm sure places like Erma have done well, with recent premier providers and lots of chatter on the board. But I'm just wondering why the overall impression I have is that business is down. Not sure why. Prices, time of year, who knows? And maybe my impressions are just out of line with what's happening overall. Just my two cents.
    For what it's worth, Ivy expressed to me it has been slow ever since I started seeing her about a year ago. But I think your comment about things being slow beyond just Golden Ocean might be true. I just think there are so many options these days that the supply is outweighing the demand. The exception to this is are the places that offer something so niche that mongers come flocking in. For example, free threesomes, bigger than normal titties, hot chicks that do anal, gorgeous GFE in her low 20's, hot young chicks giving extra mileage at a non-FS place, etc.

    If business is slow on a per spa basis is true, does the collective group here think this is causing the ladies to demand higher tips? Every 'new-to-me' girl at non-FS places I have seen within the last few months have all jockeyed for higher tips. Am I just a Cheap Charlie, is inflation hitting the ladies hard, or is business so slow that it's making them more desperate to get paid above and beyond?

  6. #23146

    Aromatherapy & Massage (Linda)

    I've been motivated as of late to discover more non-FS places with young and cute girls. This time I ventured out of the Convoy and Sorrento Valley areas to check out A&M at Hotel Circle. Why A&M. Because I've been scanning through RM reviews and this one appeared to meet the above criteria. The only problem with RM reviews is that they are notorious for being fake and misleading.

    A&M was located on the 2nd floor and was in an atrium-style building. The environment seemed private and quiet, but it left me feeling exposed for all the tenants to see. I don't suspect there were shower facilities since the bathroom itself was located amongst the other suites on that floor. In other words, you would need to walk outside about 50' just to take a leak.

    The gal that massaged me went by the name of Linda. I am guessing 45 years old, but the braces she was wearing made her look younger. She had on a spring-like dress with biker shorts underneath. It was a typical non-FS / HE massage. A little bit of massage followed by a transition towards more touching of the important parts. I was able to explore her body, mostly OTC, with my hands. She asks, 'how much tip? . I counter with 'how much you want? Since I am touching her body, she suggests $120. I explained she will need to do a lot more for $120. We settled on $60 and she got to work. Her technique was solid and followed my instructions with how I like to be pleased. Busted a nut and I was done and out the door. As I was leaving, she mentioned a new girl would be arriving by the name of Yuki which she claims is 28. I think she said Yuki only plans to work on the weekends which are the only days I can't do.

    Although I have an itch to see what Yuki is all about, I don't think I'll be adding A&M to my rotation.

  7. #23145

    Grotto Foot Spa

    So, my informant told me about this spot and that I had to check it out. It's a hike from my hotel, but I sure am glad I went.

    The spa is amazingly big with 8 rooms, two bathrooms, and super large room for the ladies to relax in. The entire place if very nicely decorated. The rooms are large and comfortable. No T / S, but there is a stand up shower available.

    Just want to start off by saying that this was hands down one of the best sessions I have EVER had.

    Candy is an absolute delight to be around. Very outgoing and pleasant demeanor with a smile always on her face. I had an instant attraction to her when I first saw her. She is all natural with that MILF appeal that was so appealing to me.

    When I arrived, I was greeted and escorted to Rm 3 I think. Either way, I asked for Cherry since I hadn't seen her in a minute. She enters the room gives me a big hug, and tells me that the new girl with take care of me. She leaves, says something, and moments later Candy bounces into the room wearing a little Sailor Girl outfit that showed off her very lovely body; at least it was nice to me. She greets me with a kiss on each cheek and a soft wet one on the lips. OMG, her lips are so soft! Asked about a shower, and she escorts me there. As I am finishing up my shower, Candy return with another towel, and asked me if I wanted to shower with her. Uh, YEAH! She undresses and we both get back in shower. Playtime started immediately. She started by washing my back which turned into a standing body slide. She soaped junior up real good and started stroking. Ran her legs between mine, and then tickled my ass with her soapy finger. She spun me around, rinsed me off, a gave me short preview of her oral skills.

    Once we got back to the room, she kicked that sexuality into overdrive. Started with some LFK, moving down my chest not neglecting the nipples; that's my spot and she found it! I guess since we were the only ones in the spa, other than Cherry, she really let go: lots of eye contact and moaning. Went thru a variety of positions, and finally finished with Candy laying on her stomach, and popping my load on her back. Afterwards, she made the comment, "that she needs to go wash my babies off her back". After she returns, we chat for several minutes while we clean up and get dressed.

    Honestly, not sure how long I was there because there was no rushing or time watching, not a single mention of donations until the very end of the session. I think we both simply enjoyed the session. IMO, Candy is a real treat that must be experienced to believe. Bottom line, not everyone will have the same level of service, but for me, my session with Candy ranks at the top! She checks all the blocks for me, and I can't want to get another session with her for I leave.

  8. #23144

    UFS updates

    So that rarest of Asians. The Greek-loving Monica. Is now on vacation. Hope she comes back in the next few months as she has a loyal following here. One contact I have says that the tall goddess Amber may return in a few months. Not sure how reliable that intel is. I've asked who they have lined up at Unique. The answer. Kiki / Grace / Hannah. All are unknown quantities for me. If you know and can share, please do. PMs are fine too. Given the management's tendency to exaggerate who is actually on roster I have my doubts as to whether they really have three ladies working. That being said, I ask myself the question. Why do I keep going back to UFS? For me its the TS which I really love. That kind of elevates the whole experience. I know some guys think its a time waster, but I've had FS initiated there on top of preliminary BBBJ and I'm kind of addicted. Lets face it, for the most part AMPs featuring 30-something providers who could pass as 20-something in dim light are a dime a dozen here in SD. The service is generic and predictable. Every so often a star will shine, but usually its a pleasant made-up face with enhanced Cs, 5 ft 3 and passable English. I'm saying "in general". If I'm wrong, prove it with specifics. I'm talking about the reputable places, not the ones where mms offers to give you a massage while you wait for the over-booked single young provider on site. So what makes the difference for me is a feature like the TS when I want FS. Sure, I've gone to other places like 201 when I wanted someone slightly out of the ordinary, but that's another story. Well anyway, what began as an inquiry ends with a personal rant. Stay safe.

  9. #23143

    Level 2 Off Convoy

    I mostly look for places that can provide a good 1 hour massage with a nice HE, though recently I decided to try out BBBJ too, with good experiences at Crystal Spa off Convoy and Luxe Spa.

    About 7 months ago there was a report about someone experiencing BBBJ at Level 2 on Convoy (there is more than one Level 2 in San Diego), so even though the report wasn't current, I thought I would try out Level 2 for the first time. And no name was provided, so I was going in blind.

    Level 2 is upstairs, and I thought it would end up being some small retail-like joint, but maybe they took over a previous medical office, because it is BIG inside. A really wide desk, and they have at least 10 rooms and a table shower (no extra fee for that). The HF for 1 hour was $60, and the rooms were not big but the vibe was a HE only place. The girl that was sitting with the MMS when I walked in is who I got, and she was 40 ish, with a perky personality. We did the TS first (I had been exercising, and wanted to be clean for any fun), and there was lots of fun sudsing going on, then headed back to the room. The massage was mid-level, starting out with just pushing, but finally got to more of a massage when oil was finally added. Finally got to the flip and she asked what I wanted, and I asked what was available, and as I had already been roaming up top she asked if I wanted the top to come off, and then she slid the chair with my clothes over and asked for the tip. I offered my normal HE tip, but she countered with something higher, and feeling kind of pressured I gave in to something not as much as she wanted, but more than I normally would care to tip. Then the HJ was lacking technique, though she was doing lots of moaning to help (didn't though), and finally I had to take over. I won't say who I had, but I would not recommend her, and felt like I TOFTT considering I have other options and won't need to come back to try someone else. Pushing up front for the tip was what I think bugged me the most, but that is not unusual. And maybe extras come with more visits, but I didn't get enough value out of this visit to return. YMMV.

  10. #23142
    Did some preliminary reconnaissance before throwing my buddy in at the deep end. I called and made an appointment with Ivy at Golden Ocean last week. Parking was easy in mid-afternoon, but could be tougher later in the day with the great restaurants in the vicinity. Ivy greeted me and asked me to take a seat while she got the room ready. The place is clean and comfortable. I paid the 60 hf for 1 hr. Ivy is very presentable, and somewhere in MILF territory. She was demure and reserved. That didn't change throughout the session. Not much conversation either. We began with the sheet on top and and then the sheet off for an oil massage. Pressure was great and it was on the "therapeutic" end of the dial, rather than the "sensual". Very little teasing before the flip and then she proceeded to a nice HJ. No access given or requested. I tipped 60. All in all a relaxing session, but kind of low key. I prefer someone a little more friendly and definitely need more teasing these days.

    One thing to note, and this goes beyond Golden Ocean. I asked her how things had been. Slow, busy, etc? She told me slow, and during the hour there I never heard another customer enter or sight or sound of a co-provider. Further afield in recent visits to other spas, both FS and non-FS, my general impression is that things are slow at the moment with fewer customers. Not sure why, but all the ladies I've spoken to had much the same thing to say. I'm sure places like Erma have done well, with recent premier providers and lots of chatter on the board. But I'm just wondering why the overall impression I have is that business is down. Not sure why. Prices, time of year, who knows? And maybe my impressions are just out of line with what's happening overall. Just my two cents.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonBorn69  [View Original Post]
    Ivy is super cute and will totally satisfy him, and you can book Mia at the same time.

  11. #23141
    I tried Hans a while back and ended up with a kind of meh experience. She wasn't a looker and not in the territory I was hoping for. Plus its a bit out of my way. I've read that you can get attitude if you go in there asking for someone specific. I imagine if you are more of a regular, options and menus may open up. Thanks for the advice though.

    Quote Originally Posted by AJaxer11  [View Original Post]
    Hans Spa might be a good option. Prices are a bit higher but a few of the girls there fit your description.

  12. #23140
    Quote Originally Posted by TacoManVa  [View Original Post]
    Place has changed so much over the last 10 years, when they used to have the tiny petite Ashley, the big jug Jenny and Anna was just approaching on the scene. Used to be just a HJ place, in the last year, Anna is now half owner and she instructs all of her girls to do full service. Yes now the girls are a little bit older so it just depends on what you want, do you want cute young girls giving you the HJ or do you want early 40 year old girls giving you full service.

    Tit for tat.

    Enjoy.
    When I was in my 20's I liked 40 year olds, now I am in my 40's and I like 40 year olds 😃.

  13. #23139

    Massage Oasis how things have changed

    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzier1  [View Original Post]
    I went maybe 2 months ago and had someone that's never been mentioned. Maybe 35-40. Somewhat cute but damaged goods. Still, she aimed to please and the massage was pretty good too. I was surprised at how nice it is inside. It's a pretty big place too. With PPS on guard, I can't imagine getting interrupted there. I plan on returning to hopefully try someone else.
    Place has changed so much over the last 10 years, when they used to have the tiny petite Ashley, the big jug Jenny and Anna was just approaching on the scene. Used to be just a HJ place, in the last year, Anna is now half owner and she instructs all of her girls to do full service. Yes now the girls are a little bit older so it just depends on what you want, do you want cute young girls giving you the HJ or do you want early 40 year old girls giving you full service.

    Tit for tat.

    Enjoy.

  14. #23138

    Massage Oasis

    Quote Originally Posted by ColPucker  [View Original Post]
    Have you been to Massage Oasis lately? I used to be a regular there 7 or 8 years ago when they had lots of young cuties; some legit only, some HE. But the last few years it seemed like it was becoming an FS place with lots of old ladies. I think Anna was the youngest one there last time I went, and I think she was approaching 40. I remember I asked Anna last time if there were any young girls, and she said that no, they only hire grandmas now. I haven't been in over a year; has it gotten any better?
    I went maybe 2 months ago and had someone that's never been mentioned. Maybe 35-40. Somewhat cute but damaged goods. Still, she aimed to please and the massage was pretty good too. I was surprised at how nice it is inside. It's a pretty big place too. With PPS on guard, I can't imagine getting interrupted there. I plan on returning to hopefully try someone else.

  15. #23137

    Big titties?

    I missed the hype train for Cathy and Cici a few weeks ago and now, I got a new job and want to celebrate. Any other FS providers in the Mira Mesa area with huge titties I can give a shot?

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