Non Pro's

[RichardQ]

Zhouzhou.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...d2d42cec389e9f

Told me that 500 was not enough. Has anyone met her yet? She is also on SA.

[Marko Ramius]

She looks really cute and has good conversation skills, haven't met her. Asking prices for PPM are kind of rich but she **might** be worth it. I probably won't pull the trigger because Tacoma is too far away from me and I rarely am down that way.

I think she is also known as "Quinn Plantmama".

[Marko Ramius]

Since I've been single, I just have them come over. There has never been any issues with that. ....

I have had a problem with one girl who was coming over and making trouble at my home after I cut her off.

Right now where I live it is generally too far out in the sticks for any of them to come to me. And a lot of them don't have reliable transportation.

[HelloThar]

Since I've been single, I just have them come over. There has never been any issues with that. I've never had a person afraid to come over. As far as going to their place, the younger ones had roommates and the older ones had children, so it was never an option. I did get hotel rooms when I wasn't single and think that sketched a few out. I think a combination of getting a hotel room and being paid for it made them feel like hookers (and the whole SB thing is based on them making a few bucks. But not being an actual hooker).

Yeah, the only younger ones I've seen that could host had decent paying jobs while having a studio apartment or something similar, but it's rare. Then the older ones have to find a sitter for their children like you say. Hotels adding $100-150 isn't a fun option either though sometimes you have no choice. I've similar come across some that were uncomfortable with how that looked, especially if they were new to the scene.

Definitely in one's favor just to host yourself, or at least meet somewhere before you do, as I've found it very limiting.

[FarFarAway]

Since I've been single, I just have them come over. There has never been any issues with that. I've never had a person afraid to come over. As far as going to their place, the younger ones had roommates and the older ones had children, so it was never an option. I did get hotel rooms when I wasn't single and think that sketched a few out. I think a combination of getting a hotel room and being paid for it made them feel like hookers (and the whole SB thing is based on them making a few bucks. But not being an actual hooker).

I used to get hotel rooms, until my SO found a receipt. Now I ask my SBs to book the room, and I reimburse them. That seems like a comfortable thing to most. A couple have thought it made them look like sluts to the desk clerk, that they were checking in and going to check out in like 3 hours, but I get them to book the room through apps for daytime use only. It ought not to be an issue, but some individuals can make it one.

[Michael1967]

My personal feeling is that meeting up at a hotel is the very best bet, both from a discretion standpoint and to make sure everybody feels safe. So probably 99 percent of my encounters are at hotels.

A minority of the girls prefer (or insist) that you meet up at their place. To be honest most of those situations either seriously weirded me out or made my shoulderblades twitch. And inevitably in those situations something ends up getting at least a bit fucked up.

So no, nobody who ever said they couldn't host changed their mind. Unless we had been seeing each other for like a year or so. I've had a couple of situations where somebody I saw for a long time wanted to see me on very short notice. Usually I just don't do that (see someone on short notice) but sometimes I have and will tell them I can't get a decent hotel on short notice and can't do the meetup, and they will graciously offer their own bed for the activities.

Since I've been single, I just have them come over. There has never been any issues with that. I've never had a person afraid to come over. As far as going to their place, the younger ones had roommates and the older ones had children, so it was never an option. I did get hotel rooms when I wasn't single and think that sketched a few out. I think a combination of getting a hotel room and being paid for it made them feel like hookers (and the whole SB thing is based on them making a few bucks. But not being an actual hooker).

[Marko Ramius]

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With that rant over, how often have you vets here been able to go to your SB's place for hosting if they initially said they couldn't? Debating not even bringing up my own inability to host until after meeting as that's the hard part over with and they determine you aren't a creep. I know discretion is a big issue for most of them as been discussed already. Kind of even surprised some can find college age ones willing to host and not care about being found out.

My personal feeling is that meeting up at a hotel is the very best bet, both from a discretion standpoint and to make sure everybody feels safe. So probably 99 percent of my encounters are at hotels.

A minority of the girls prefer (or insist) that you meet up at their place. To be honest most of those situations either seriously weirded me out or made my shoulderblades twitch. And inevitably in those situations something ends up getting at least a bit fucked up.

So no, nobody who ever said they couldn't host changed their mind. Unless we had been seeing each other for like a year or so. I've had a couple of situations where somebody I saw for a long time wanted to see me on very short notice. Usually I just don't do that (see someone on short notice) but sometimes I have and will tell them I can't get a decent hotel on short notice and can't do the meetup, and they will graciously offer their own bed for the activities.

[HelloThar]

I think 400 is fair. Most of my meetings last the whole evening or overnight and we go for seconds or thirds. And condoms are rarely used.

Also, I have an extremely low tolerance for girls who flake out or are constantly late. Yes, everything gets fucked up once in a while but if it happens every time I dump 'them like toxic waste. And as I've said in the past I gladly pay extra for girls who can be on time. It is honestly weird to me that a lot of guys put up with piss poor time management and the massive disrespect that is being shown to them when they play silly games.

Definitely with you all the way there. I don't think there's a single thing that annoys me more (other than bad hygiene) than those who don't respect your time. It's not a big deal to send a quick message saying you're late or something came up and they let you know as soon as they can. But anything else and they're pretty much garbage. I'm sure many here have heard the same excuses of broken phones, oversleeping, etc., too.

It doesn't help that 90% of women in this scene are god awful at communicating well too, even if they do have to be discrete. I haven't been around as much as others but of the handful I've seen on SA, I think only 1 was reasonably prompt with texts.

With that rant over, how often have you vets here been able to go to your SB's place for hosting if they initially said they couldn't? Debating not even bringing up my own inability to host until after meeting as that's the hard part over with and they determine you aren't a creep. I know discretion is a big issue for most of them as been discussed already. Kind of even surprised some can find college age ones willing to host and not care about being found out.

[Marko Ramius]

I think 400 is fair. Most of my meetings last the whole evening or overnight and we go for seconds or thirds. And condoms are rarely used.

Also, I have an extremely low tolerance for girls who flake out or are constantly late. Yes, everything gets fucked up once in a while but if it happens every time I dump 'them like toxic waste. And as I've said in the past I gladly pay extra for girls who can be on time. It is honestly weird to me that a lot of guys put up with piss poor time management and the massive disrespect that is being shown to them when they play silly games.

[HelloThar]

What I'm seeing lately is a lot of ladies asking for wildly unrealistic amounts of money or wildly unrealistic terms for that money.

The added trend is that I think this is a little more understandable if the lady in question looks hot or is willing to put a lot out there. But if you are only of average (or below average appearance), have quite a few extra pounds on you, or are pushing forty (or older) I have to wonder what makes you think anyone is going to give you $1000 for a meetup? Or a substantial allowance without any contact at all?

Right now I have two decent situations on my rotation and am not exactly looking for anyone. And anyone who I did want to add would have to *really* stand out.

One is in her early 20's, she's attractive, reasonably fit, and reasonably active. But she does have some health problems and takes quite a few medications, and because of that doesn't get out too much. She is a little bit weird and a lot shy. But on the other hand she is sweet and good natured and a good sport.

The other is about ten years older, slender, also attractive, with a little bit of baby damage. She's got a 1-year-old and is ]a stay-at-home mom on welfare and SNAP. So the most entertainment she gets these days is fucking me one evening a week and getting Uber Eats when I'm there. She's otherwise likable and friendly and it is a good scene.

I gift both of them 400 to 500 each date, and they get to spend a fair amount of time inspecting their ceilings while I pound away. I also cover dinner and sometimes bring them wine or weed.

So it is hard to see how some overweight chick in her late 30's wanting $1500 for a non-sexual meetup can compete with all that.

Feel like you answered your own question with your own post. The only difference is the heffers are trying to go for homeruns asking for $1000+ when the average girl on the site probably gets $400-500 per meet. And the heffers probably get it, albeit rarely, from desperate and socially awkward dudes.

Everything is so skewed heavily towards the women around the Seattle area that they can pretty much do whatever they want due to the demand. I'm finding that not only applies towards the other board but to SA as well. It's actually crazy how many times I've been ghosted too after having nice chats and them bringing up meeting themselves. We're just 1 of many for them to choose from.

[Member #6729]

LOL. Look at the sanp photos she post. She includes all the dudes that are friends. This is classic get you in the lack mind set (look at all the guys after her.). She's young she does have leverage cause dudes will just do whatever to bang a young one. LOL. Fuck I looked twice!! Haha. A tech bro will overpay and off to the gps category she goes.

Love how she openly called herself a 304!! That's a highway with no exit. Wow! These women haven't a clue the foundation of her wall has been placed. (face palm).

Social media has all but destroyed 60% of gen z! What's the folk lore? Lilith and the black mirror (how the funk did the Jewish know back then? Lilith can't stop gazing at her image in the black mirror (constant selfies) and behind the mirror was the den of demons! (simps clicking heart emojis). Haha.

I save her numba tho. But no likes on SM.

Happy hunting boys. What a world we live in. Wow.

How did the Jewish know back then? Oh come on, you know the answer to that question 😂is anyone here going to call me a conspiracy theorist for that one? Lmao.

[Member #6729]

What I'm seeing lately is a lot of ladies asking for wildly unrealistic amounts of money or wildly unrealistic terms for that money.

The added trend is that I think this is a little more understandable if the lady in question looks hot or is willing to put a lot out there. But if you are only of average (or below average appearance), have quite a few extra pounds on you, or are pushing forty (or older) I have to wonder what makes you think anyone is going to give you $1000 for a meetup? Or a substantial allowance without any contact at all?

Right now I have two decent situations on my rotation and am not exactly looking for anyone. And anyone who I did want to add would have to *really* stand out.

One is in her early 20's, she's attractive, reasonably fit, and reasonably active. But she does have some health problems and takes quite a few medications, and because of that doesn't get out too much. She is a little bit weird and a lot shy. But on the other hand she is sweet and good natured and a good sport.

The other is about ten years older, slender, also attractive, with a little bit of baby damage. She's got a 1-year-old and is ]a stay-at-home mom on welfare and SNAP. So the most entertainment she gets these days is fucking me one evening a week and getting Uber Eats when I'm there. She's otherwise likable and friendly and it is a good scene.

I gift both of them 400 to 500 each date, and they get to spend a fair amount of time inspecting their ceilings while I pound away. I also cover dinner and sometimes bring them wine or weed.

So it is hard to see how some overweight chick in her late 30's wanting $1500 for a non-sexual meetup can compete with all that.

From your description of these two ladies, 400-500 for each date is also way to much. So I'm asking myself the same question? Baby damage and 400-500? Naaa. I would gift her maybe 200. I think 300 should be max for average girls. Over that you're giving way to much, especially if it's every date. So I ask you the same thing, why're you giving them this much? Your probably going to say because they're nice or whatever. I'm sure the other dude who payed some chick $600+ for every date said the exact same thing. So I ask again, why're you giving them this much for every date?

[ScotchYoke]

She has photo verified so it probably is her, but she also hasn't logged onto the site for 3 months. Seems like she at least gave it a shot.

Fair. I suppose someone could go visit her and chit chat and bring up the topic of the weed industry and see if she bites and acknowledges if it's true.

[Marko Ramius]

What I'm seeing lately is a lot of ladies asking for wildly unrealistic amounts of money or wildly unrealistic terms for that money.

The added trend is that I think this is a little more understandable if the lady in question looks hot or is willing to put a lot out there. But if you are only of average (or below average appearance), have quite a few extra pounds on you, or are pushing forty (or older) I have to wonder what makes you think anyone is going to give you $1000 for a meetup? Or a substantial allowance without any contact at all?

Right now I have two decent situations on my rotation and am not exactly looking for anyone. And anyone who I did want to add would have to *really* stand out.

One is in her early 20's, she's attractive, reasonably fit, and reasonably active. But she does have some health problems and takes quite a few medications, and because of that doesn't get out too much. She is a little bit weird and a lot shy. But on the other hand she is sweet and good natured and a good sport.

The other is about ten years older, slender, also attractive, with a little bit of baby damage. She's got a 1-year-old and is ]a stay-at-home mom on welfare and SNAP. So the most entertainment she gets these days is fucking me one evening a week and getting Uber Eats when I'm there. She's otherwise likable and friendly and it is a good scene.

I gift both of them 400 to 500 each date, and they get to spend a fair amount of time inspecting their ceilings while I pound away. I also cover dinner and sometimes bring them wine or weed.

So it is hard to see how some overweight chick in her late 30's wanting $1500 for a non-sexual meetup can compete with all that.

[Jello11]

I'd be surprised if that was actually her. Her bikini insta is coffeebabe420 and her modeling insta is frecklebishlish.

I'm sure she makes enough money in her bikini stand that she probably wouldn't need to be on seeking. But that could be her. Who knows.

She has photo verified so it probably is her, but she also hasn't logged onto the site for 3 months. Seems like she at least gave it a shot.