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  1. #44805
    Quote Originally Posted by Leadtheway  [View Original Post]
    Yeah MM is pretty much my go to and been there lots in last 6 months, Pretty sure I've seen everyone except the two new ones that just started and I have never seen that lady, even when I got put in the back by laundry when waiting. Kiko (mamasan) is probably like early 30's, then there's 2 older ones but none look like that.
    Apparently it was one of the new girls.

  2. #44804
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBob198  [View Original Post]
    Batman6969 said they are open though.
    They were technically still open for a while yesterday but I did confirm with Kiko today that they are now temporarily closed.

  3. #44803
    I've passed through several times and always visited Milk on the way. I was planning to next Monday as well.

    If anyone knows where Mina ends up, I'd love to hear it. I'll miss those toys.

  4. #44802

    Surveilance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff1976  [View Original Post]
    Everyone needs to understand that these places were probably under surveillance for months. If LE wants to make a "big splash", they might go after the visitors. Basically, a big waste of taxpayer dollars, for a "morality issue", when there is actual crime to address.
    This could have been the white Tesla obviously watching the front door and that followed me west on Colonial past the Vape shop. That was about 2 months ago. Maybe more.

  5. #44801

    It's always about the money

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff1976  [View Original Post]
    Everyone needs to understand that these places were probably under surveillance for months. If LE wants to make a "big splash", they might go after the visitors. Basically, a big waste of taxpayer dollars, for a "morality issue", when there is actual crime to address. Or maybe they just want to confiscate the $$ from the spas, to fund their police banquets, etc.

    I know for a fact, that an independent provider in Seattle was arrested a few years back, and brought up on some trivial charges, while the $28 k cash she had her house was stolen and never reported as evidence. Spent quite a bit of time with her, off the clock, and got to know her pretty well. It was part of her savings, to start a restaurant. That's a pretty good pay day, for a few cops to share (and never report). Wonder how much $$$ was confiscated from MM, that will never get reported as "evidence". Even if it gets reported, it will just get "lost" in the criminal justice system.
    Of course it's about the money. That's why LE spends all that time surveilling the place "building a case" I. E. Figuring out how the money flows so they can snatch it all during the bust. And from there it goes straight into their pockets.

  6. #44800

    Milk

    Just a quick note to thank all of you for the news about MM. I fully intended on visiting for the first time today but saw the posts yesterday. Drove by yesterday early afternoon and of course zero cars in the lot. Pretty high-profile location so maybe something will open up somewhere not so noticeable.

  7. #44799
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjceb  [View Original Post]
    The milk business model was really flawed at the end of the day.

    While great for mongers and the girls to get the negotiations out of the way, the business is an easy target at the end of the day.

    You cannot have a massage facility in the state of florida and not get busted. Also if you are taking $$ upfront and have naked gals walking around right in front of everyone then no way you have deniability of what really is going on.

    Both are easy targets for LEO.
    But what a fantastic business model it was. It was great while it lasted, and surprised me how long it lasted TBH. But also seriously as long as there's no human trafficking, these type of business should be legal, they should set some type of policies around it. The tax revenue would be better than wasting people's tax dollars in dumb raids like this, just because some hypocritical people view it as morally wrong, when it really isn't, just something that has been happening since the beginning of human civilization.

  8. #44798
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1614

    Milk bust

    The milk business model was really flawed at the end of the day.

    While great for mongers and the girls to get the negotiations out of the way, the business is an easy target at the end of the day.

    You cannot have a massage facility in the state of florida and not get busted. Also if you are taking $$ upfront and have naked gals walking around right in front of everyone then no way you have deniability of what really is going on.

    Both are easy targets for LEO.

  9. #44797
    Quote Originally Posted by Bushido2130  [View Original Post]
    Do you think they will come after customers?
    They will if they catch you in the act.

    But typically it seems that they are going for the money.

    Arresting johns is usually a scare tactic when they are trying to clean the streets up for appearances.

  10. #44796

    That's the bazillion dollar question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bushido2130  [View Original Post]
    Do you think they will come after customers?
    Everyone needs to understand that these places were probably under surveillance for months. If LE wants to make a "big splash", they might go after the visitors. Basically, a big waste of taxpayer dollars, for a "morality issue", when there is actual crime to address. Or maybe they just want to confiscate the $$ from the spas, to fund their police banquets, etc.

    I know for a fact, that an independent provider in Seattle was arrested a few years back, and brought up on some trivial charges, while the $28 k cash she had her house was stolen and never reported as evidence. Spent quite a bit of time with her, off the clock, and got to know her pretty well. It was part of her savings, to start a restaurant. That's a pretty good pay day, for a few cops to share (and never report). Wonder how much $$$ was confiscated from MM, that will never get reported as "evidence". Even if it gets reported, it will just get "lost" in the criminal justice system.

  11. #44795

    It's ok if you do it for FREE!

    Quote Originally Posted by StyleNProfile  [View Original Post]
    Yeah but LE always claims the girls are victims of "human trafficking" every time one of these busts happen. Which to anyone who has even the slightest clue about it can see is not true. There is no way the girls could do what they do so cheerfully if they were being forced. Don't get me wrong, I know it's about the money for them, but it's obvious they are happy to do it for what they get paid.

    It's just appalling beyond belief that consenting adults can be arrested and publicly besmirched over something so innocuous. LE wastes years of time and resources on investigations like this when they could be going after real bad guys trying to hurt and exploit children.
    It's truly amazing in the "land of the free" that you can be arrested for accepting money for a deed that is perfectly ok if done for free. That makes no sense at all. What if the law treated plumbers like that? "I can fix your toilet for free, but if I charge you, I go to jail. " It's senseless. And a total waste of law-enforcement resources at a time when we have real crime all around.

    Bruce.

  12. #44794
    Troll, just add me to your ignore list.


    Posts: 53
    Quote Originally Posted by StyleNProfile  [View Original Post]
    Yeah but LE always claims the girls are victims of "human trafficking" every time one of these busts happen. Which to anyone who has even the slightest clue about it can see is not true. There is no way the girls could do what they do so cheerfully if they were being forced. Don't get me wrong, I know it's about the money for them, but it's obvious they are happy to do it for what they get paid.

    It's just appalling beyond belief that consenting adults can be arrested and publicly besmirched over something so innocuous. LE wastes years of time and resources on investigations like this when they could be going after real bad guys trying to hurt and exploit children.
    Dude, its all an act. They were literally living in MM. If they didn't work, they would be kicked out. They were not happy to be there. Lets be honest. No woman grows up wanting to do this for a living. They come from the poorest areas in China.

  13. #44793
    Troll, just add me to your ignore list.


    Posts: 53
    Quote Originally Posted by GiddyD  [View Original Post]
    I am devastated at the loss of the major AMP players. I wanted to confirm for myself, so I drove down to Otown and passed by MM twice, both times I never saw one car in the lot. This was way early in the afternoon, I passed by a third time and this time I stopped to try the door, the door was locked and after that I headed home. So I just wanted to give a second confirm that they are closed, despite the sign saying open.

    It's a sad day, but I hope they'll be back. The monger scenes of late is depressing, low talent, high prices for nothing and worst now, the loss of the big three AMPs.

    This sucks.
    Batman6969 said they are open though.

  14. #44792

    Concerned

    Quote Originally Posted by WayneAshley380  [View Original Post]
    The girls are typically treated as victims.

    It makes them more likely to talk, makes the authorities look compassionate, and attempts to keep new customers from exploiting these "victims".
    Do you think they will come after customers?

  15. #44791

    Land of the free. What a joke!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bearing100  [View Original Post]
    As far as the girls I think most LEO would rather just not even bother with or them.

    It's not like they're violent criminals or junkies. Most are pretty much just normal people outside of work & majority you talk to they take vacations, visit family & friends when not working and pretty clean cut in general (A lot don't even drink). So not shady characters at all. To them it's really just a job and legal a lot of places in the world anyway.
    Yeah but LE always claims the girls are victims of "human trafficking" every time one of these busts happen. Which to anyone who has even the slightest clue about it can see is not true. There is no way the girls could do what they do so cheerfully if they were being forced. Don't get me wrong, I know it's about the money for them, but it's obvious they are happy to do it for what they get paid.

    It's just appalling beyond belief that consenting adults can be arrested and publicly besmirched over something so innocuous. LE wastes years of time and resources on investigations like this when they could be going after real bad guys trying to hurt and exploit children.

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