NoVA SugarBabies

[Tophat31]

In no world would I pay for a meet and greet, it's just not happening. If that ever comes up I generally just say I'm happy to pay for drinks (and a meal on a VERY rare occasion, but I don't advise that either). Then I let them know respectfully that I recognize it takes her time to get ready, etc. And appreciate that time is money, and her time is valuable. And then I let her know I bill clients at 450/ hr and my time is as valuable as hers so it's a risk / investment for both of us to spend the time to see if we're a match. If they can't see this as such, I pass.

This is basically a job interview for them, no other employer is going to pay them to interview for a position, and neither am I.

About the dinner. That can get sideways quickly. When I first started in the bowl I had no idea what I was doing and maybe the second or third person I met was Nothing like her pics. Not even sure it was her TBH. But I got there first, and had already ordered a drink and started a tab and the had to suffer through dinner with her. It was miserable. I learned a lesson from that. Don't start a tab before you see her so you can simply bail if needed, etc. I will also always get there first, and let the server know it's a blind date and that I might have to bail without notice. I typically slip them a 20 and let them know it's a tip just in case I walk out when she walks in. In any case, agreeing to dinner for a M&G is risky, even if she looks like her pics, she could just be an awful human and dinner can be expensive AND annoying.

CarribeanPrincess.

Is this the girl sparking all this convo? I thought I had my new sb, conversation was great, moved along to text, very open to terms. When intimacy came up, she said that's not an automatic thing for her. So I suggested a MandG to see if we vibe and made it clear I'd pay for coffee / drinks, but nothing more since that meeting is to explore if an arrangement is possible. She made it clear that she would need to be paid since she has to do makeup and look nice. Apparently people need to be paid for that now. I said goodbye.

I've done probably a dozen non-paid MandGs over the years and all but 2 led to long term arrangements. If they request that, it's actually a great sign bc it shows you are getting a true non pro. Never ever pay though.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...2-79069276798e

[FogHorn1]

I know the general wisdom is not to pay for a meet & greet date, but has anyone ever done it anyway and ended up in a solid, consistent arrangement? There are a few potentials that I'd really like to meet but they want 1-200 to meet for dinner first. They can't all be scammers, can they?

In no world would I pay for a meet and greet, it's just not happening. If that ever comes up I generally just say I'm happy to pay for drinks (and a meal on a VERY rare occasion, but I don't advise that either). Then I let them know respectfully that I recognize it takes her time to get ready, etc. And appreciate that time is money, and her time is valuable. And then I let her know I bill clients at 450/ hr and my time is as valuable as hers so it's a risk / investment for both of us to spend the time to see if we're a match. If they can't see this as such, I pass.

This is basically a job interview for them, no other employer is going to pay them to interview for a position, and neither am I.

About the dinner. That can get sideways quickly. When I first started in the bowl I had no idea what I was doing and maybe the second or third person I met was Nothing like her pics. Not even sure it was her TBH. But I got there first, and had already ordered a drink and started a tab and the had to suffer through dinner with her. It was miserable. I learned a lesson from that. Don't start a tab before you see her so you can simply bail if needed, etc. I will also always get there first, and let the server know it's a blind date and that I might have to bail without notice. I typically slip them a 20 and let them know it's a tip just in case I walk out when she walks in. In any case, agreeing to dinner for a M&G is risky, even if she looks like her pics, she could just be an awful human and dinner can be expensive AND annoying.

[Tophat31]

A year ago my ho team was 5 strong. Five months ago I was down to one so I went back on SA and found a new member, cute 22 yr old but I suspect she was high volume. Anyways she got crazy on me so I'm back on. Some throwaways.

Geekvenus.

Stunningly Beautiful, smart, good convo. So of course she wants 2. 5 k a month that disperses weekly into her bank account. Will not budge. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...f-7f070e9cf9f4

Savannah.

This one was weird. She asks if I can get her a job and gives me a rundown of her experience, unsolicited. Asked her if she instead wanted an arrangement then crickets.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...3-d7410e7d2afb

NaughtNurseLauren.

Quick to go to text, which is fine sometimes that works or great. Then proceeds to send me a video of her of a black girl saying that it is her. Her seeking photos though are of a white girl. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...2-ab50209c52a1

24 kcherry. No link bc I blocked her.

This one is crazy. Went to text and she was saying how she needs to be taken out to fancy restaurants a few times a week so that she knows she can "count on" that person. This also includes regular weekend getaways. Umm no.

Sarabay26 - again blocked.

Seemed like a good lead. Got her to text and started talking details and we agreed to terms. Then throws in that she needs to be paid up front for any meeting. So annoying, blocked.

Babylatina. Blocked.

Seemed like it could be good. Got her to text to talk financials and she said 250 for a meet and greet, then 700 for sex and covered. She then adds "we will fuck real nice" . Probably an escort. I instantly told her we aren't a match and good luck. She then calls my burner number! What the hell.

Sorry for no links and I realize it's not helpful later on if they change their I'd but I always block it it doesn't work out. I was falsely banned from SA and I suspect it's from a sore woman who was upset I didn't play along with the scam.

I have more bad ones but all blocked so no links. I can post though if people find it helpful.

I will say at first (meaning 2 days ago when I upgraded) I was pretty happy with the talent. I thought it was better than 5 months ago. But as I peel back the layers it gets more annoying. But this is a numbers game and takes time. I think I will find that new SB. Timing is a big part of it as well. Good luck.

[BuffBill75]

I know the general wisdom is not to pay for a meet & greet date, but has anyone ever done it anyway and ended up in a solid, consistent arrangement? There are a few potentials that I'd really like to meet but they want 1-200 to meet for dinner first. They can't all be scammers, can they?

If a woman asks me for a M&G fee I usually pass on them. Chances are you'll get rinsed and if it does work out it's still a bad sign of things to come.

[DasHottCalla]

I know the general wisdom is not to pay for a meet & greet date, but has anyone ever done it anyway and ended up in a solid, consistent arrangement? There are a few potentials that I'd really like to meet but they want 1-200 to meet for dinner first. They can't all be scammers, can they?

Have to agree with Rudy. You don't know if you'll vibe with this woman, she may not look like her photos, she may be glued to her phone all date, her breath may stink, she may be a complete idiot. Our time is infinitely more valuable than theirs, hence them being on SA in the first place. So why pay her just to on top of that pay for the date.

It's a losing game to pay for M&g. Pay for a great dinner and drinks. If she's not bs, she should be down for it.

[JonFisher]

I know the general wisdom is not to pay for a meet & greet date, but has anyone ever done it anyway and ended up in a solid, consistent arrangement? There are a few potentials that I'd really like to meet but they want 1-200 to meet for dinner first. They can't all be scammers, can they?

Just think about it. She gets 5 guys to feed her and makes 1000 $ tax free. And how do you know she will sleep with you after the dinner date?

1. she likes you based on pics or FT or whatever, you have already told her that you would give allowance if she is DTF, then why the the dinner date money? If she says its for her time and effort. Well you also put ion the time and effort. Just saying think through the rationale why she is asking for money for dinner.

[Rudy Wellz]

I know the general wisdom is not to pay for a meet & greet date, but has anyone ever done it anyway and ended up in a solid, consistent arrangement? There are a few potentials that I'd really like to meet but they want 1-200 to meet for dinner first. They can't all be scammers, can they?

There are exceptions to all rules, and I'm sure some guy has paid up front for a M&G and leveraged that into a good arrangement. However, the odds are overwhelmingly that you will get ripped off. Too many stories on this and other boards of bad experiences with SB's who demand up front cash.

When confronted with a request for cash on initial M&G, I tell that I am happy to pay for an extremely nice meal and drinks to see if we vibe. And if we do, the ultimate payout over time will far exceed the $100-$200 fee. If the SB doesn't accept that offer, she's either a scammer or not too intelligent.

[Supply Closet]

I know the general wisdom is not to pay for a meet & greet date, but has anyone ever done it anyway and ended up in a solid, consistent arrangement? There are a few potentials that I'd really like to meet but they want 1-200 to meet for dinner first. They can't all be scammers, can they?

[Shier]

Like I said last week. You guys are wasting your fucking time on that site if you live within an hour of DC.

You'll get it sooner or later, I hope.

I'm starting to feel this. As someone who simply does not have the time to chase down all these SBs only to get hit up with delusional ppm expectations. And for what? Most of them are toward average in the looks department.

I know, going farther afield will yield better results, but I go back to the time thing.

Most of the "Premium site" pros these days have high-ish rates, but with a little digging and research one can find some really good options for very reasonable. On top of that, there is convenience, safety, discretion built in. Again, all of this of course requires some amount of care, research and awareness of the market. Someone should really counsel some of these seeking girls that this is what they're up against. But I guess if they're asking then it means they must be getting?

[Pathfinder04]

Wow really? I got her for less than half that. Makes zero sense.

I was also offered 500. Schedules have not worked out yet.

[Mcsylv]

They both offer (Ed) all 3 holes uncovered for the right guy (s). They're allowance requirements also varied wildly as well.

Never got anal with Amy but Marguerite turned down BBFS. Wish I was lucky enough to get both of them, would have been a good experience since they're actually into each other and not just acting like when I've done it with escorts.

Who are we talking about again?

Amy Smith and Marguerite. They were posted a while back with photos and such. Not sure why people are doing the A + M thing, maybe they're still seeing them. Amy was incredibly loving and cuddly with me, really enjoyed her company even if she was high volume. Add that she's really cute, and I wish I didn't tell her the truth and was still fucking her today.

[Dimples572]

They both offer (Ed) all 3 holes uncovered for the right guy (s). They're allowance requirements also varied wildly as well.

Who are we talking about again?

[ProCatHunter]

Weird, I had talked to someone about her a few months ago, early in the fall, and that menu was far from complete.

If it were, I'd be interested.

They both offer (Ed) all 3 holes uncovered for the right guy (s). They're allowance requirements also varied wildly as well.

[ProCatHunter]

Who are A and M? Can someone post their Seeking profile?

I think they are off seeking, but sent you their Instagram pages.

[Rudy Wellz]

Sounds amazing, did you find most of them in seeking?

Having a great time. Met them all through Seeking.