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  1. #7585

    What are the forums, apps, or website that reviews of john's or sugardaddies.

    I was interacting with a girl that I saw on SDM first and then Seeking.com. Attractive girl but lied about her information on borth profiles as they are different in age and location. She is very attractive. She wanted 1 k. Her name is Babyblue something and now her profile on seeking says 30 I think and somewhere in orange country. Her profile on SDM said 25 years old and on the westside of la. She asked me for my phone number and then used my phone number to look at comments about me from seeking I think and other sites. Or maybe she searched my profile name on these sites or forums. She was pretty knowledgeable on how to check and she responded with a screenshot so fast from her phone or computer I think. I was taken aback and had no idea. Where are these sites, forums, and apps that females can check on reviews on males made from other females.

    Also on another note I saw HollywoodGuy he met a girl from Tiktok. I was wondering how do you find women that are willing to meet off Tiktok or social media in general. On Tiktok what search term do you use to find these women to meet someone through tiktok? How did you do it Hollywoodguy. Please give us the details. Thanks. From a first time poster.

    For creampie for sugarbabies is 300 fair. Or should it be less or more. Some of these girls on these sugar sites want 400 to 500,700, 800,1 k. Also I look on forums of escorts and they say they they can get creampie for 300 to 400.

  2. #7584
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyJob  [View Original Post]
    Laughable at best.

  3. #7583

  4. #7582
    Quote Originally Posted by FarFarAway  [View Original Post]
    There is a profile in the LA area, of a 50 year old woman. She goes into some detail about herself, perhaps she is unconcerned about anonymity. However, I took the 1 profile photo from seeking and ran it through PimEyes free search. I was able to see some of the sites the same person's photo were on began "bu. Edu", meaning to me Boston University. So I search for that, I had no difficulty locating the woman. Full name, etc. IDK why she is around here for now.

    This just goes to show the power of facial recognition, and how someone can get your personal info without paying, even though that PimEyes site is paywalled. I have requested they remove all of the hits to my own photos, but after they said they did that, I could still find 3 hits. I then sent them a message with a screenshot of those 3 hits, and said all the things you are supposed to say. In California, I can request that no one sell my personal information if I don't want them to, etc. They acknowledged receipt, we'll see how quickly this actually happens.

    If it does, well that takes care of PimEyes, but it doesn't deal with any other sites. There is an app you can get, called Fawkes, that FS-up any photos you put online so they can't be used as the basis of facial recognition. This works prospectively, but not retrospectively.
    That is a phenomenal piece of insight. Downloading down.

    I read the you Chicago page on it. It seems facial recognition is a real cat and mouse game so the software needs to be updated to stay up to date, and something academic like this will always be behind. But it's way way better than nothing. And you can always try your own photos in pimyes to make sure it worked.

  5. #7581

    Suspect profile

    Moves around a lot, NoCal, SoCal.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/d...9-0a554d81d40a

  6. #7580

    Pimeyes test

    There is a profile in the LA area, of a 50 year old woman. She goes into some detail about herself, perhaps she is unconcerned about anonymity. However, I took the 1 profile photo from seeking and ran it through PimEyes free search. I was able to see some of the sites the same person's photo were on began "bu. Edu", meaning to me Boston University. So I search for that, I had no difficulty locating the woman. Full name, etc. IDK why she is around here for now.

    This just goes to show the power of facial recognition, and how someone can get your personal info without paying, even though that PimEyes site is paywalled. I have requested they remove all of the hits to my own photos, but after they said they did that, I could still find 3 hits. I then sent them a message with a screenshot of those 3 hits, and said all the things you are supposed to say. In California, I can request that no one sell my personal information if I don't want them to, etc. They acknowledged receipt, we'll see how quickly this actually happens.

    If it does, well that takes care of PimEyes, but it doesn't deal with any other sites. There is an app you can get, called Fawkes, that FS-up any photos you put online so they can't be used as the basis of facial recognition. This works prospectively, but not retrospectively.

  7. #7579
    Quote Originally Posted by CreamFire  [View Original Post]
    Is it that bad now? Was thinking of opening an account because of spring break.
    After about 15 years on seeking all I can say is that it's better sometimes than others. But staying on consistently is the best plan unless you are off the market completely (as I am now).

  8. #7578

    That bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by StudBucket  [View Original Post]
    Okay, I am posting this because I am not sure if it is just me noticing this but lately SA in Los Angeles has been shit, and filled with a high amount of scammers and catfish. My photos are really good. I am younger looking (for my age), muscular and have game so its not for these reasons. But I get these girls who give me numbers and then you cannot get a hold of them after texting. My feeling is this site has tons of scammers looking for dudes to send them money and when you ask to speak to them, video call, they bounce. Or, you call them and they never can answer a call nor reach back out to you.

    It was really good last year (2nd half) but now I have trouble getting better girls who are legit. Anyone else notice this?
    Is it that bad now? Was thinking of opening an account because of spring break.

  9. #7577
    Quote Originally Posted by AMonger1  [View Original Post]
    But you fellow degenerates that may have some experience or wisdom.

    What do you guys make of it? Any suggestions / advice how to navigate this? I figured fuck it I'll take this ride and see where it goes for now. ESP with no more ppm / allowance requirements? If it wasn't for the circumstances of SA I'd be trying to wife her up due to her caliber. Because of that tho I can also see myself getting insecure at times if I fall for her because I know that I can never compete with previous guys. Then again if a nobody got with scarlet Johansson should he even care about her experiences / past? Because despite what she can get, or has around her, she got with him so don't that make him the winner then?
    Sometimes you get lucky on seeking. Get what you can get and be grateful. Also watch your ass as you would with any new girl.

  10. #7576
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoeTwo  [View Original Post]
    I actually had one that was similar. Not a sb, but an escort. Any meeting that I had with her was free of charge. She would tell me that she wanted me to go home with her and that I could stay as long as I want. We would have sex multiple times. She loved the sex. She would tell me that it was a double edge sword because she would be sore afterward but still have to work, but she liked me so it was a turn-on for her. She would text me, wishing I was there with her. She would tell me about the business. Tell me about other clients and girls. Talk to me about personal stuff. Ask me if we could meet up and hang out, nonsexual related but eventually it leads to sex. She wasn't like a young hot model, but she was an older lady who was still hot. She had a hot body.

    It happens. The reason why I didn't go for it and accept her offer was I knew it wouldn't work out. Our personalities didn't mesh well imo and there was lots of drama on her side. And she was a little crazy, but great in bed LOL. She thought we clicked so well that she wanted to be with me or see me as much as she could. I felt that if she does with me, she does it with everyone that she likes.

    In your case, if you like her go ahead and test the waters. Especially if she likes you back and since you guys clicked. I personally wouldn't care if my SO was a worker or currently is, but normally I wouldn't go for it because different of reasons. I know a lot of dudes do care. I've been a few girls who told me that some of their clients, who were rich, wanted to take them for themselves and take them out of the biz.

    If she's seeing you for free, then take advantage. I would suggest keeping some boundaries within yourself at least until you get to know her more. I wouldn't fall for her looks, even though that's easier said than done. I go for the personality. There are some girls who do ask to see you for free, act like you are special or they really like you, and then create a sad story and then ask you for some money. There are some girls who I met who showed me that they do that to some dudes. It's part of the game. I don't judge, so I respect the hustle. Just make sure that isn't you. If she is legit and doesn't ask you for money at all, then you are good.

    Try not to get insecure about previous guys if you do get into a relationship. It's because she choose you, you know? Some girls who are drop-dead glorious get with guys who don't look hot or up to their standards. You either have to fit the girl type, have money, or have enough charm that would get her. I've seen hot girls and handsome guys who get with someone who doesn't nearly look as attractive as they are. It happens.

    Anyway, take advantage. Trend carefully, but don't pass this up. Have fun. Don't fall for the looks because that's temporary and deceiving, fall for the personality and chemistry. Since you guys clicked, ride with it and see where it goes. If she asks for money or create a sad story to get money from you, jump out of the ship. If you happen to get into a relationship with this woman, good luck. Happy for you my guy. If not, at least you had a good time.
    I have had this happen twice from SA. I just go with it.

  11. #7575
    Quote Originally Posted by AMonger1  [View Original Post]
    But you fellow degenerates that may have some experience or wisdom.

    What do you guys make of it? Any suggestions / advice how to navigate this? I figured fuck it I'll take this ride and see where it goes for now. ESP with no more ppm / allowance requirements? If it wasn't for the circumstances of SA I'd be trying to wife her up due to her caliber. Because of that tho I can also see myself getting insecure at times if I fall for her because I know that I can never compete with previous guys. Then again if a nobody got with scarlet Johansson should he even care about her experiences / past? Because despite what she can get, or has around her, she got with him so don't that make him the winner then?
    Is she a native born American? If she is foreign, I could guess she is looking for someone for a green card marriage. Beyond that, like the other poster said, I would enjoy the ride as long as it lasts. It won't last forever. Ask any dude here who is married. Why are we here? Because we want what we had w / our wives when we were young and she was hot and wanted to bang all the time. That doesn't last.

  12. #7574
    Quote Originally Posted by StudBucket  [View Original Post]
    I am going to have to respectfully disagree with this comment. Bots and scammers have been around, and it was well publicized when Ashley Madison had the spotlight on them. They admitted to using employees of the company to spam / send fake messages to users in order to appear they had more members and getting us to renew. Tinder does the same thing. Many scammers use bots / programs in hopes of getting you to send them money and they are in another country at times. There are countless articles online with proofs and examples of this. Sometimes it is done by scammers. Sometimes it is done for the mere fun of catfishing people, and other times it is secretly done by the sites (Tinder, SA, Bumble. , Ashley Madison) in order to get you to keep interested. Keep in mind there is very little regulation in this industry.
    In my personal experience, the bot is sometimes obvious as grammar will be bad, the message they will send will not even make sense or stay on topic with the conversation, and its just too good to be true. Lately, I am getting many fake messages, with no ability to follow up with gals on the site (SA). But, yes there are still many real profiles on the site that you can get Far Far Away.
    There are clearly fake profiles on Seeking.com. We've all run across them. Someone who is trying to get you to buy pix or videos, or really, anything that involves you sending $ to them, without actually meeting up. There are people all over the world who are motivated to do this, and think SA is good fishing ground because 1) the site itself has few ways to be certain who is real or not, because we don't want to be asked to prove *we* are real, and 2) people who get scammed will be embarrassed to report it to someone who could do something, because of the character of the site. There are definitely ways we can fight back against them, or just perceive what they are before hand.

    My main point is that I do not believe it is the site itself that is doing this. First of all, I have never ever been contacted by a fake profile. This might be because I keep my profile hidden from search. Which I recommend everyone do, especially anyone who wants to keep on the down low. I see a new profile, it is appealing in some ways but it also raises red flags. If I favorite it or message it, I may find out shortly it is fake and then block it. I also note that each and every time I deactivate my profile, which I do whenever I am without a paid membership, I am asked to give a reason. I have started checking 'too many fake profiles' every time. So, it does not make sense to me that the site is putting up fake profiles and then asking users if this is pissing us off.

    I have no idea how you would get facts that would tell you that the seeking site itself is setting up fake profiles to tease users into keeping their membership going. But as I said, if you have them, bring it on. In the absence of such facts, the Occam's Razor argument is that the fake profiles are from guys in an internet cafe in Bulgaria or Timbuktu. If they can get one guy a day to send them $10 in 'gas money' to go to a M&G, they win. Without facts, all you have is a conspiracy theory.

  13. #7573
    Quote Originally Posted by AMonger1  [View Original Post]
    But you fellow degenerates that may have some experience or wisdom.

    But I met a model and we hit it off. This girl is wayyyyy out of my league and I'm assuming also has a much higher income than me. Thought she was a scammer at first because most model pics that hot are. Shit I was talking to a fake Rachel Bush for a period of time before I found out who Rachel Bush was. Thankfully I followed my rule of cash in person only for that one. Anyways somehow we clicked through messaging, and when I asked what she was expecting for a ppm / allowance she said it was up to me as I should know what was too much or little. Was kinda confused as her profile would indicate otherwise with signs of gps and expectations of a substantial amount. Imagined her getting 1 k+ offers easy just through DMs with offers to fly her out. Scheduled a date, called her an Uber, and we spent hours just talkin with also a couple rounds in between. When she left she called her own Uber and I gave her 5 (most I ever done for a sb but figured why not if I'm already dishing out close to that much for a kgirl for one hr). If she asked for 1 k I prob would have done it just for the experience with an insta model. We were already talking about dating by the end. 2nd time I covered the Ubers both ways and expressed that I wish we never met under the circumstance because of the dynamics now in play. She then said that this would be the last time she'd accept payment and future meets wouldn't require anything so I gave her 6. One thing that's kinda a red flag is how fast / hard she's fallen for me supposedly, already telling me she loves me and such, even telling me to move in with her to her new place. She is a recent divorcee however so I'm just wondering how much that is affecting her. I am by no means ballin, particularly handsome, or hung. She obvs been with and / or have access to dudes who'd destroy me in all three categories. For perspective on tinder / hinge / bumble I prob get like one match every other week AT BEST. And 80% of the time they're fat af. The other 20 they're 6's at best. And nothing ever went anywhere. She would get hundreds of matches a week easy.

    I see three potential scenarios:

    1) I'm just a pity fuck for a rebound or a get back and just wants someone who'd appreciate getting with someone of her status.

    2) she really is falling in love with me and money isn't really a concern for her.

    3) she's a psycho and playing some sort of long game.

    What do you guys make of it? Any suggestions / advice how to navigate this? I figured fuck it I'll take this ride and see where it goes for now. ESP with no more ppm / allowance requirements? If it wasn't for the circumstances of SA I'd be trying to wife her up due to her caliber. Because of that tho I can also see myself getting insecure at times if I fall for her because I know that I can never compete with previous guys. Then again if a nobody got with scarlet Johansson should he even care about her experiences / past? Because despite what she can get, or has around her, she got with him so don't that make him the winner then?
    I actually had one that was similar. Not a sb, but an escort. Any meeting that I had with her was free of charge. She would tell me that she wanted me to go home with her and that I could stay as long as I want. We would have sex multiple times. She loved the sex. She would tell me that it was a double edge sword because she would be sore afterward but still have to work, but she liked me so it was a turn-on for her. She would text me, wishing I was there with her. She would tell me about the business. Tell me about other clients and girls. Talk to me about personal stuff. Ask me if we could meet up and hang out, nonsexual related but eventually it leads to sex. She wasn't like a young hot model, but she was an older lady who was still hot. She had a hot body.

    It happens. The reason why I didn't go for it and accept her offer was I knew it wouldn't work out. Our personalities didn't mesh well imo and there was lots of drama on her side. And she was a little crazy, but great in bed LOL. She thought we clicked so well that she wanted to be with me or see me as much as she could. I felt that if she does with me, she does it with everyone that she likes.

    In your case, if you like her go ahead and test the waters. Especially if she likes you back and since you guys clicked. I personally wouldn't care if my SO was a worker or currently is, but normally I wouldn't go for it because different of reasons. I know a lot of dudes do care. I've been a few girls who told me that some of their clients, who were rich, wanted to take them for themselves and take them out of the biz.

    If she's seeing you for free, then take advantage. I would suggest keeping some boundaries within yourself at least until you get to know her more. I wouldn't fall for her looks, even though that's easier said than done. I go for the personality. There are some girls who do ask to see you for free, act like you are special or they really like you, and then create a sad story and then ask you for some money. There are some girls who I met who showed me that they do that to some dudes. It's part of the game. I don't judge, so I respect the hustle. Just make sure that isn't you. If she is legit and doesn't ask you for money at all, then you are good.

    Try not to get insecure about previous guys if you do get into a relationship. It's because she choose you, you know? Some girls who are drop-dead glorious get with guys who don't look hot or up to their standards. You either have to fit the girl type, have money, or have enough charm that would get her. I've seen hot girls and handsome guys who get with someone who doesn't nearly look as attractive as they are. It happens.

    Anyway, take advantage. Trend carefully, but don't pass this up. Have fun. Don't fall for the looks because that's temporary and deceiving, fall for the personality and chemistry. Since you guys clicked, ride with it and see where it goes. If she asks for money or create a sad story to get money from you, jump out of the ship. If you happen to get into a relationship with this woman, good luck. Happy for you my guy. If not, at least you had a good time.

  14. #7572

    Idk who to ask

    But you fellow degenerates that may have some experience or wisdom.

    But I met a model and we hit it off. This girl is wayyyyy out of my league and I'm assuming also has a much higher income than me. Thought she was a scammer at first because most model pics that hot are. Shit I was talking to a fake Rachel Bush for a period of time before I found out who Rachel Bush was. Thankfully I followed my rule of cash in person only for that one. Anyways somehow we clicked through messaging, and when I asked what she was expecting for a ppm / allowance she said it was up to me as I should know what was too much or little. Was kinda confused as her profile would indicate otherwise with signs of gps and expectations of a substantial amount. Imagined her getting 1 k+ offers easy just through DMs with offers to fly her out. Scheduled a date, called her an Uber, and we spent hours just talkin with also a couple rounds in between. When she left she called her own Uber and I gave her 5 (most I ever done for a sb but figured why not if I'm already dishing out close to that much for a kgirl for one hr). If she asked for 1 k I prob would have done it just for the experience with an insta model. We were already talking about dating by the end. 2nd time I covered the Ubers both ways and expressed that I wish we never met under the circumstance because of the dynamics now in play. She then said that this would be the last time she'd accept payment and future meets wouldn't require anything so I gave her 6. One thing that's kinda a red flag is how fast / hard she's fallen for me supposedly, already telling me she loves me and such, even telling me to move in with her to her new place. She is a recent divorcee however so I'm just wondering how much that is affecting her. I am by no means ballin, particularly handsome, or hung. She obvs been with and / or have access to dudes who'd destroy me in all three categories. For perspective on tinder / hinge / bumble I prob get like one match every other week AT BEST. And 80% of the time they're fat af. The other 20 they're 6's at best. And nothing ever went anywhere. She would get hundreds of matches a week easy.

    I see three potential scenarios:

    1) I'm just a pity fuck for a rebound or a get back and just wants someone who'd appreciate getting with someone of her status.

    2) she really is falling in love with me and money isn't really a concern for her.

    3) she's a psycho and playing some sort of long game.

    What do you guys make of it? Any suggestions / advice how to navigate this? I figured fuck it I'll take this ride and see where it goes for now. ESP with no more ppm / allowance requirements? If it wasn't for the circumstances of SA I'd be trying to wife her up due to her caliber. Because of that tho I can also see myself getting insecure at times if I fall for her because I know that I can never compete with previous guys. Then again if a nobody got with scarlet Johansson should he even care about her experiences / past? Because despite what she can get, or has around her, she got with him so don't that make him the winner then?

  15. #7571
    Quote Originally Posted by FarFarAway  [View Original Post]
    I know nothing about those other apps, but I have never ever had any suspicion that was true on SA. I definitely can tell at times I have had guys impersonating girls. Once I enter the #s into my phone, SnapChat looks them up, and I can see avatars that are males.

    And it definitely isn't effective at getting me to pay any membership fees. I get SA a month at a time, I get so many POTs I can't follow up on all of them, and then I get off for a few months while I chase them all down.

    I am sure you have zero facts supporting that assertion, regarding SA at least.
    I am going to have to respectfully disagree with this comment. Bots and scammers have been around, and it was well publicized when Ashley Madison had the spotlight on them. They admitted to using employees of the company to spam / send fake messages to users in order to appear they had more members and getting us to renew. Tinder does the same thing. Many scammers use bots / programs in hopes of getting you to send them money and they are in another country at times. There are countless articles online with proofs and examples of this. Sometimes it is done by scammers. Sometimes it is done for the mere fun of catfishing people, and other times it is secretly done by the sites (Tinder, SA, Bumble. , Ashley Madison) in order to get you to keep interested. Keep in mind there is very little regulation in this industry.
    In my personal experience, the bot is sometimes obvious as grammar will be bad, the message they will send will not even make sense or stay on topic with the conversation, and its just too good to be true. Lately, I am getting many fake messages, with no ability to follow up with gals on the site (SA). But, yes there are still many real profiles on the site that you can get Far Far Away.

    See proof below:

    https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.ph...view/6426/5525

    https://www.michigandaily.com/statem...tomated-swipe/

    https://medium.com/@dateaha/spot-the...s-6fe64e445dc0#text=And%20 yes%2 C%20 dating%20 sites%20 use, they%20 want%20 to%20 meet%20 you.

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