BBFS Providers Manhattan

[DrunkenKid]

Asking for that money upfront is definitely a mood killer.

It's good business practice. Let's stop faulting the girls for asking for money up front.

The only place that I pay at the end is the one that I am a regular at. I think the mms gives them a heads up that a VIP is coming in.

[DrunkenKid]

Damn you are all over the different states LOL. She cannot escape. Ha.

+1.

I saw post in the Seattle forums today and was like damn, this dude is everywhere! LOL.

[DrunkenKid]

One thing though that sort of helps is to show her the money. Show her the 500 then she says no remove it and give her the 400 (or whatever). Some will not budge until you show you will not bend.

Flashing the cash is a legit tactic. I flashed an extra hundred to (Korean) Jamie when I met her for the first time. She saw the bill in my wallet and said "want to fuck no condom for $100?

[RyanLar]

Couldn't agree with you more. Helen is definitely overrated, not worth 2 Ben's tip. BTW, she asked for donations upfront, which is somewhat a turnoff.

Not too impressed with the current lineup at NYAF, IMHO.

Agreed, $200 is too much for someone of her age. She has a great body and service is good but we want to see cheaper CIP as we've seen that from younger and prettier girls.

She also wanted $100 for greek so that's like $300.

She did offer it as freebie when she started working at PPC and bubblegirls. A lot were grandfathered in with freebies cas she clicks well with her eng game and nice background. Maybe there were many days where she requested upfront charges and client falsely promised her but didn't pay a dime at the end; that's a diff story than freebie. A lot of times she doesn't ask for upcharge fees in the beginning or during the session so maybe that rub the person the wrong way of thinking they can have freebies but actually she wanted extra greens. Its a 2 way street sometimes.

I think so.

1. people tell too many others about freebie. Got no discretion.

2. dumb asses show up demanding freebie and got no chill.

3. dudes who stiff them after and leave them hanging and girls can't stop them from leaving.

- some of these guys probably claims it was free on the board which drives a vicious cycle.

Asking for that money upfront is definitely a mood killer.

[RyanLar]

This is the same rebranded version of original "katia" at PPC, then went by "Asumi" in NOVA MP, and now she's "carrie" on(yes pun intended). Too much rebrands within a few months of USA visit and she has a notorious neg. Impression on xxx board; despite high scores, there were a few mixed where she seemed lacking gfe exp. but this could have changed

Xxx I'd: katia (380165) and Asumi (380880).

Asking price: 300 cip with video, 200 with just cip no films.

*CIP might be negotiable depending on multiple factors as always, but she seemed very firm on the above menu*.

YMMV.

Damn you are all over the different states LOL. She cannot escape. Ha.

[Genghis Dong]

Saw Helen, though IMHO she's over rated. Wanted 200 tip.

Mamasan, total spinner, is way hot though. She told me she sees customers- any intel on this?

Set up appointment and will report back regardless.

If you are talking about Vera good luck with that. Ain't going to happen. The other week when I saw Helen I saw Vera's BF in the chill room. And yes, it is her BF. I remember him from the chill room at NYAW.

I concur with the above, I tried those methods and be very upfront on making the stadium look awkward to point where girl knows I won't be repeating and won't be satisfied. In most cases I have curtailed my sessions from 1 hour to 45 minutes or even 30 minutes the min they start upcharging 2-3 bens and won't budge. Hence the last 2 x I saw maho was a great example; I only booked hhr no matter how much time I have in manhattan. I only came across those pics with a short glance either ddy / sl or somewhere in manhattan among the shops we know; it could be a reused brand or just similar. We will go with the flow.

What did you think about Maho's BJ? That girl can fucking DT. She almost loses her Japanese citizenship over that.

I have not many options to shorten it. 30 minutes would never work. Sometimes 45 but even that I don't trust. Only if a girl is 500 hr / 400 45 minutes will I do that. It is not even a thing of trying to last long. The only way I can reliably bust during fucking is in mish but the girl cannot have her legs spread. They either got to be down or wrapped around me. Doggy sometimes but I have to go buck fucking wild and most girls are leaning forward and making it hard as hell to bang if I do that.

Oh, know a little Japanese but I am going to learn how to say 100 in Japanese tonight. And if I can figure out no condom I will try to learn that too.

[Member #1174]

Saw Helen, though IMHO she's over rated. Wanted 200 tip.

Mamasan, total spinner, is way hot though. She told me she sees customers- any intel on this?

Set up appointment and will report back regardless.

Couldn't agree with you more. Helen is definitely overrated, not worth 2 Ben's tip. BTW, she asked for donations upfront, which is somewhat a turnoff.

Not too impressed with the current lineup at NYAF, IMHO.

[JavLuvr]

Hotomi NYCSE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/360 - looks kawaii, first 4 and last 4 pics don't seem to be the same exact person. I'd prefer the first 4 pics though if real!

Ginbasha NYCSE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/359 -JAV "26".

Hotomi: I've got no intel on her. All I will say is that the last 4 pics look filtered, and the first 4 pics (the sexy school girl pics) look way too good to be true IMO. I will wait for the reviews on this one.

Ginbasha: Another girl who was at MLE. JAV name is Fuka Kureha. Has 4 or 5 vids that are a bit dated now. Odd that she went from MLE to NYCSE and not 10 TC. And no longer using her JAV name on top of that. One of her vids says she is 34 years old and that vid is from like 2018, so do the math. She's not 26 LOL. There is a positive review of Fuka (Ginbasha) in the NNJ thread. I stopped by MLE last week to get a look at her, but I didn't go forward with the session. Instead I ended up fucking Erina her first day at 10 TC. What a crazy AMP adventure that was! The hooker gods must have been watching over me, because I walked on 2 different girls before I ended up just going into the city where I had a blessed session with Erina.

BTW there are two J-girls at MLE (Kirara and Minoko) that look pretty good. Coming soon to a shop near you: http://myluxeescape.com/.

[IronClad999]

This is the same rebranded version of original "katia" at PPC, then went by "Asumi" in NOVA MP, and now she's "carrie" on(yes pun intended). Too much rebrands within a few months of USA visit and she has a notorious neg. Impression on xxx board; despite high scores, there were a few mixed where she seemed lacking gfe exp. but this could have changed

Xxx I'd: katia (380165) and Asumi (380880).

Asking price: 300 cip with video, 200 with just cip no films.

*CIP might be negotiable depending on multiple factors as always, but she seemed very firm on the above menu*.

YMMV.

[UncleThrax]

I also posted this in the High End thread, but feel like maybe it would get more views / opinions here.

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but seems close enough. Would love to see a thread specifically for Er*s providers (who are usually high end) who've been confirmed to provide Gina Rollins level service (BBFS / CIP, BBGreek / CIA, no holes barred, etc.). I feel like that would save a lot of mongers lots of wasted time and effort. Just a thought / suggestion. Any thoughts?

[IronClad999]

She got booked a lot I would bet. I found that in every case that I could get the mms to talk on. The descriptions and pics did get me interested in her.

If you do check her, hope to see where her baseline raw price menu is, but from the sound of her packed schedule she might be another maho that holds pocky sticks at 200 cip LOL.

[IronClad999]

She started doing the upfront payment and counting because there were scammers out there. Got BB then didn't pay the upcharge at the end. They ruin the game entirely. If one doesn't want to pay the upsell then don't go for it. Going for it then not pay just ruins the game for everyone and you can be sure the girls tell others about their experience.

She did offer it as freebie when she started working at PPC and bubblegirls. A lot were grandfathered in with freebies cas she clicks well with her eng game and nice background. Maybe there were many days where she requested upfront charges and client falsely promised her but didn't pay a dime at the end; that's a diff story than freebie. A lot of times she doesn't ask for upcharge fees in the beginning or during the session so maybe that rub the person the wrong way of thinking they can have freebies but actually she wanted extra greens. Its a 2 way street sometimes.

[IronClad999]

Thanks. Figured that might be the case here. In LA, these "special" ones really do special services. Just don't repeat though. They're there to nab sugar daddies so they'll play really well for the session, ask for number and see if you want to sugar her for exclusive time. They do mean exclusive as in kept woman and they don't see others. Expect 5 figure monthly spending money though.

Pretty sure theyre still actively seeking sugar fellows otherwise they wouldn't be listed on the roster for consistent amount of time and still hangs LOL. Its like playing candidacy for pageants; they want the most out of the hobby game to ensure their wallets are covered. The calculations arent too far off; they did the math right in doing this part time gig while meeting tons of peters and johns in the outside shop world trying to nitpick and earn silver coins here and there. Its a win win for them cas many would fall for it.

[IronClad999]

And you got to hold out. The last girl I got at WSD took 100 right away. Some take it after the shower. Some take it as I am getting the condom. Some take it after I've been fucking them hard for 15 minutes.

One thing though that sort of helps is to show her the money. Show her the 500 then she says no remove it and give her the 400 (or whatever). Some will not budge until you show you will not bend.

I don't recognize them and I've seen all their japanese girls since last October or even before.

I concur with the above, I tried those methods and be very upfront on making the stadium look awkward to point where girl knows I won't be repeating and won't be satisfied. In most cases I have curtailed my sessions from 1 hour to 45 minutes or even 30 minutes the min they start upcharging 2-3 bens and won't budge. Hence the last 2 x I saw maho was a great example; I only booked hhr no matter how much time I have in manhattan. I only came across those pics with a short glance either ddy / sl or somewhere in manhattan among the shops we know; it could be a reused brand or just similar. We will go with the flow.

[Archie]

Saw Helen, though IMHO she's over rated. Wanted 200 tip.

Mamasan, total spinner, is way hot though. She told me she sees customers- any intel on this?

Set up appointment and will report back regardless.