"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**SugarDaddio** · 03-24-23 14:36

Louis would you mind sharing some of the other sites you are talking about. I usually avoid other sites simply because I don't investigate well enough to see if they are legit and worth the effort. Thanks in advance.

SD.

Originally Posted by LouisHernandez [View Original Post]

With the economy thankfully turning back to capitalism more than socialism, these women should start becoming more reasonable. So the sugar economy should begin to improve to our advantage as the economy continues to decline. Get off seeking.com . There are other sites with better approaches that I can already vouch that work much better. The girls are higher quality, friendlier, and less GPS. Sure you still deal with the standard flake rates, but the numbers are getting more in our favor. Make sure you have some good profile pics and stay in shape and stay within about 20 years of your age success can be had for $200 a pop BBFS. Game also matters, just don't simp.

**LouisHernandez** · 03-24-23 14:32

Originally Posted by MacLuvin [View Original Post]

These girls still have serious GPS. They all throw out $600 to meet. None of them can host, and half of them say they don't have a car and need me to Uber them on top of that. It's gone down hill for sure. I just cancelled my membership again. Active for 2 months this go around and dozens of numbers, but not a single actual meet because these girls all think they're worth $600-1 k.

I agree, years ago it was a night and day difference. Two years ago I had a rotation of girls from there I'd see. Now, nothing. My approach hasn't changed, these girls have.

With the economy thankfully turning back to capitalism more than socialism, these women should start becoming more reasonable. So the sugar economy should begin to improve to our advantage as the economy continues to decline. Get off seeking.com . There are other sites with better approaches that I can already vouch that work much better. The girls are higher quality, friendlier, and less GPS. Sure you still deal with the standard flake rates, but the numbers are getting more in our favor. Make sure you have some good profile pics and stay in shape and stay within about 20 years of your age success can be had for $200 a pop BBFS. Game also matters, just don't simp.

**LouisHernandez** · 03-24-23 14:06

Originally Posted by Airmantroy [View Original Post]

On a whim, I re-upped my premium on Monday. I had several old stale messages that were of no use as they cycled thru. Since Monday I have sent 11 messages, gotten 9 replies and 7 numbers to text. 1 had GPS and is a semi-pro, 1 has been reviewed here a while back and scheduling with her was simple as 2 texts. 2 others have never been mentioned and M&G are set with both next week.

Something about the type of girl you are contacting or your initial approach is.

It's also the city I live in. Denver that could be very different. But my approach has been the same as it's always been, filter GPS, filter non local, etc. It's just not the same site. I've had better luck recently on some other sites. I'll never get on seeking again. It's the ******* of sugar sites now IMHO. I'm not even sure it's considered a "sugar" site anymore and that's the problem.

Oh and the fake profiles are too much to bear. Seeking won't enact a more rigorous user verification system like mandating users validate a US Mobile phone to get in (not a voip number either). I got sick and tired of trying to determine which profiles were real and which were fake. And most seem to be fake / scammers.

Good luck to you though. It's tough everywhere.

**DudeNextDoor** · 03-24-23 13:59

Dang, she told me 1 k ppm. I should have jumped on that price while I had it LOL.

Originally Posted by Apollo007 [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...5-5b7b485d63b5

**LGSeeking** · 03-24-23 13:57

Back in the game again after being out for a while. Summer xx reached out to me and we started a convo. Had to go into a meeting and figured I would check here to see if anyone has had any experience with this good looking blonde.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...d-479aace33ba3

**MacLuvin** · 03-24-23 11:01

These girls still have serious GPS. They all throw out $600 to meet. None of them can host, and half of them say they don't have a car and need me to Uber them on top of that. It's gone down hill for sure. I just cancelled my membership again. Active for 2 months this go around and dozens of numbers, but not a single actual meet because these girls all think they're worth $600-1 k.

I agree, years ago it was a night and day difference. Two years ago I had a rotation of girls from there I'd see. Now, nothing. My approach hasn't changed, these girls have.

**Apollo007** · 03-24-23 10:42

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...5-5b7b485d63b5

**Airmantroy** · 03-24-23 09:46

Originally Posted by LouisHernandez [View Original Post]

Maybe for every 5 messaging convos I get 1 phone number. It's definitely 10 phone numbers or MORE that convert to 1 M&G.

The standard conversion of phone number to M&G is 5-10% and that is for certain. Lately 2-3 M&Gs = a Fvck. It's bad. 5 years ago, it was a whole different game. I long since gave up on SA b / c of these metrics. There are better sites out there for sugaring, but they all are tough.

SA is a total dead POS. It was the bomb 5 years ago, now it's just another time wasting scam site. The girls are horrible on there too.

On a whim, I re-upped my premium on Monday. I had several old stale messages that were of no use as they cycled thru. Since Monday I have sent 11 messages, gotten 9 replies and 7 numbers to text. 1 had GPS and is a semi-pro, 1 has been reviewed here a while back and scheduling with her was simple as 2 texts. 2 others have never been mentioned and M&G are set with both next week.

Something about the type of girl you are contacting or your initial approach is.

**LouisHernandez** · 03-24-23 01:17

Originally Posted by CuriousVaMan [View Original Post]

Louis, You're saying you get 1 fuck out of every 1500 women you message? This can't be right.

Maybe for every 5 messaging convos I get 1 phone number. It's definitely 10 phone numbers or MORE that convert to 1 M&G.

The standard conversion of phone number to M&G is 5-10% and that is for certain. Lately 2-3 M&Gs = a Fvck. It's bad. 5 years ago, it was a whole different game. I long since gave up on SA b / c of these metrics. There are better sites out there for sugaring, but they all are tough.

SA is a total dead POS. It was the bomb 5 years ago, now it's just another time wasting scam site. The girls are horrible on there too.

**CuriousVaMan** · 03-24-23 00:08

Louis, You're saying you get 1 fuck out of every 1500 women you message? This can't be right.

Originally Posted by LouisHernandez [View Original Post]

+1. I've done some rough math overall and here's what I've come up with.

5 girls messaged = 1 reply.

10 replies = 1 phone number.

10 phone numbers = 1 M&G.

3 M&Gs = 1 Fvck.

YMMV.

And don't message any girls that aren't local and who don't post UNFILTERED full body pictures. Beware of girls who post filtered pics. They are doing it to hide something. You must be efficient with your time here.

Finally don't simp. The hotter the girl the less compliments you should give her. Game matters. It's human nature to want someone who challenges you.

**LouisHernandez** · 03-23-23 23:33

Originally Posted by BobeSugar [View Original Post]

I tried SA. First of all, it takes a lot of effort to meet someone. Most girls are just scammers. I met few and things went well, but takes a lot of time and luck. I haven't used it for over 2 years now. I had a relationship that lasted 4 months, but it's rare. Don't be too generous, then they will assume that you're a sucker. Never, ever give your personal information. Make up a story about yourself. Always meet in public places and then go to private places. Don't believe anything they say because it's 100% bs.

+1. I've done some rough math overall and here's what I've come up with.

5 girls messaged = 1 reply.

10 replies = 1 phone number.

10 phone numbers = 1 M&G.

3 M&Gs = 1 Fvck.

YMMV.

And don't message any girls that aren't local and who don't post UNFILTERED full body pictures. Beware of girls who post filtered pics. They are doing it to hide something. You must be efficient with your time here.

Finally don't simp. The hotter the girl the less compliments you should give her. Game matters. It's human nature to want someone who challenges you.

**LouisHernandez** · 03-23-23 22:51

If money is brought up before we get naked, I'm out. That's just a prostitute. It's a line I won't cross. The lay will suck, she'll probably require covered parking, all of which are deal breakers if I'm paying money. I don't mind pulling out but I would prefer not even doing that anymore being 47. I don't care anymore, someday I won't be able to even get it up so I want the full experience. Just 5 years ago I'd called myself crazy. Not anymore. The clock is ticking.

Originally Posted by Red1992 [View Original Post]

Chatted with this one and was looking for $6 ppm and is not able to host.

A bit out of my budget.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...3-e403608b2936

**LoVecchio** · 03-23-23 20:33

Originally Posted by BumbaCloth [View Original Post]

Any info on her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...d-e9a1ef64b9b3

See Post #12120.

**Sgt Soros** · 03-23-23 19:00

Originally Posted by NewAnonymousName [View Original Post]

That's lucky that she didn't just grab the whole wallet. The grab and go while you're in the bathroom move happens a lot in Vegas with casino girls. Your post is a good reminder to all of us to never leave your wallet unattended around a SB, especially those of you with privacy concerns. Nothing good can come from a thief having your ID.

There are always three sides to a story, his side, her side and some story in between. For me to believe his story, I need more details. For instance did the bathroom have an opening to the outside? Highly unusual, if it did. His story just does not add up and being his first post, I'm highly suspicious.

**TooHotForYou** · 03-23-23 14:53

Originally Posted by VSlayer [View Original Post]

We had a good time. She's kissing and starts with a BJ. Asked for allowance and I gave it to her and then she was like wash up so I went into the bathroom to wash up, she must've hit my wallet then. Then I get into the bed, she now goes to the bathroom and then left the room. By the time I got dressed she was out. She took my cash, at least she left all my other shit. Def I let it go but damn I never let anything like that happen to me before.

Are you saying she went to the bathroom in the room then left the room? Or are you saying she went to the bathroom and then left the room when in the bathroom?