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**Mcsylv** · 03-06-23 01:05

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

So why are you on SA? Chicks who would date you in civvy life are on there because most in their target demographic are sad ass soy boys lacking the means or experience to treat them like us older guys can.

If you are young, decent looking and have disposable income, you should be killing it in civvy banging on Tinder and the like. Being on Seeking is a red flag for younger women. What's wrong with you, they wonder. Heard this from some 25-35 SBs.

What if you're in your 30's and have disposable income, but are also fat and an Asian who doesn't like Asian women LOL. Just a joke, don't need to seriously answer that.

Originally Posted by Grafenberg [View Original Post]

Prostitutes complaining about being treated like prostitutes. That's gold, Jerry, gold.

If you asked women on SA "Are you a sex worker?" I'm positive more than 50% would respond "No. " Maybe even more than 75%. They don't see it as sex for money. That's why all the fucking bullshit with girls wanting platonic arrangements, monthly allowance instead of PPM when the sex isn't guaranteed, and telling dudes that sex needs to "come with an emotional connection" or "want it to come naturally" come from. They literally think an arrangement is spending time together, enjoying their company, taking them shopping, spoiling them, shit you see in movies. The sex is a minor part of the whole thing, whereas for men sex is the majority, if not everything.

Just look at the Escorts section and see how many dudes post ads from pudgy 5's and talk proudly about railing them because they do QV visits for $100. For some dudes, they'll fuck as long as the hole is pink. Or brown. Now turn this around and imagine a 50-yo woman paying $100 to fuck our old 5/10 asses, and it's unthinkable. Inconceivable. That's the difference between women and men. There's no use griping about how stupid women are, not recognizing their ***** status, because they live in different worlds from men. A world where many things are free, consequences for mistakes are less severe, and achievements are easier to reach.

An SB of mine was going to Vegas for the first time in like 5 years, and she told me she wanted to get to a VIP table at Omnia to see her favorite DJ on a Friday night. I asked her how she was going to do this given she was broke and could barely afford her ticket there. Her answer "I dunno, I'll just walk around the casino during the day and meet people, I always find someone who can take me. " Tables that night cost minimum $2000. That's how life is for women.

Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]

I can understand the chicks thinking that but I can't stop laughing when guys think of "SB's" as non pros. You are literally handing them money to fuck and you think they aren't a prostitute.

Dumbfounded.

This forum caters to dudes that, as previously mentioned, are on the lower end of the income spectrum. In the 8 years I've been browsing this site, men have posted about fucking $1000+/ hr escorts maybe a handful of times. Mostly, it's $100/ QV hoes or actual streetwalkers that get talked about here. As a result, there's a certain view towards women that is pervasive at USASG, that they're nothing more than holes to stick dicks in, etc.

However when looking elsewhere, such as are / sugarlifestyleforum, it's a different demographic. There, you have some men who've never hired an escort before. There's also females pulling the viewpoint towards them, unlike here which is a male echochamber. Over there, men do view it more as the girls do. SB's aren't ****** and SD's aren't johns. It's not a transactional relationship, there's emotion and trust and platonic time involved, just as much as sex. Yes, there's some dudes there with the USASG mentality as well, and those dudes are treated as rabid outcasts for the most part, not banned outright but definitely ridiculed whenever they voice their thoughts, by both women and other men. With such different communities all interacting around the sugarbowl, of course stuff is going to seem stupid to people here. Dudes here rage whenever someone says they paid $200 for FS at an AMP instead of $100, screaming that stupid simps like them are going to ruin the market and give girls GPS. Meanwhile on SLF, I've seen the following:

Dude said he had an opportunity to make a popular IG model his SB, and was asking everyone whether he should, pros and cons, etc. He did end up becoming her SD, and I messaged him for more details. He posted a photo and it was Sophie Mudd, you can Google her, she's got 2. 7 M IG followers. He was giving her $5 k PPM, and if she agreed to do monthly allowance then it would be $20 k + extras like shopping or trips. This was back in late 2021/ early 2022, he deleted his account after posting so I don't have any updates. Said he was in his mid-40's, fit, and made his money in tech.

Dude said he was paying a monthly allowance, and one month his SB was busy and wasn't able to meet him at all. He was asking the forum what should be done, should he cut her off, demand a month for free, etc.? Majority of the advice from men and women was that shit happens. She could have had something come up, legit be busy, whatever, he should let it slide. If she does it again the next month, then they need to have a talk about it, and if it's 3 months in a row then he should cut it off immediately. Conversely, they did say that in a "real arrangement," some months it would be no meetups or sex, other months it would be sex 3 times a week, just depends on everyone's schedules. The girl should legitimately like the guy, not just his wallet. The allowance doesn't change.

Dude said he had a long-term SB for years. One day she got sick, and found out it was cancer. She went through treatment, went bald, and couldn't have sex anymore. He stuck with her through it all, giving her full allowance even though the most they did together was cook meals, maybe watch some TV and talk. After a while, she was so sick she couldn't stay home anymore, and had to move into the ICU. He visited a few times, but couldn't keep it together to see her like this, and so stopped. A few days later, she died, and he was devastated. He actually went to her funeral, and she had told her best friend about him and how he meant the world to her, even though they met on a sugar website. Her best friend hugged him, and told him how much he meant to her at the end, and was glad to meet him. He posted all this on Reddit to tell everyone that despite the troubles with SA and the bad people out there, there's still hope for a better, more meaningful relationship.

All of these stories would illicit negative responses here. I can just imagine the 3rd dude posting this here, and having somebody yell "Nerd!" at him like it's the Simpsons. But, these people exist, and these lifestyles exist, and who's to say which side is right?

Er, I mean, rofl what a buncha fuking simps lmao right, fuck these dumb hoes and their GPS! Am I doing this right?

**CuriousVaMan** · 03-06-23 00:11

Clinton's looking pretty good there.

Originally Posted by TomFordModel [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...b-47413f010ff1

Seriously. Sa has gone downhill. Why in the fuck is this thing messaging me! Like seriously. You're old and busted. Expecting someone to pay and texting someone that is way beyond your league.

Shit, she's better off being a sugar momma. I wouldn't touch it even if she offers me 10 k ppm.

**TomFordModel** · 03-05-23 18:39

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...3-7b8ec59fff42

Idk, what you guys are talking about but she can be had for 400 and under. I declined not my type but easy to chat and nice.

**OliverNP** · 03-05-23 12:51

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

So why are you on SA? Chicks who would date you in civvy life are on there because most in their target demographic are sad ass soy boys lacking the means or experience to treat them like us older guys can.

If you are young, decent looking and have disposable income, you should be killing it in civvy banging on Tinder and the like. Being on Seeking is a red flag for younger women. What's wrong with you, they wonder. Heard this from some 25-35 SBs.

Not only this, but far and away the girls on SA have already decided they're interested in much older guys not only for the financial aspect but because they've become accustomed to the maturity and experience. If you read the SB only forum on Reddit, you'll notice time and time again, the first time they've dated someone 2-3 x their age they say they will never go back to guys their age. I've known girls that were 18-19 and they already made up their mind they won't date anyone under 45 ever again, because the experiences they've had with immature behavior.

Now if you're 30-35 and really have crap tons of disposable income, use that to your advantage by demonstrating it in modest ways on regular dating sites. Mentioning that you like to spoil, showing pictures of yourself in exotic locations, wearing expensive clothes driving very expensive cars. Trust me they will notice and it will work to your advantage.

But in general yeah I think on SA you're hurting your cause from both ends, because on SA a young guy is viewed as a scammer, or just damaged goods, as was mentioned. Plus some of the girls from Tinder and so forth are also on SA -- if they meet you on Tinder and see you also on SA it's probably going to lessen your chance of ever hitting it.

**Rudy Wellz** · 03-05-23 09:08

Originally Posted by DasHottCalla [View Original Post]

Just signed up, I didn't know that incognito mode was a thing.

Awesome. I will set up a profile today.

**DasHottCalla** · 03-05-23 08:53

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

So why are you on SA? Chicks who would date you in civvy life are on there because most in their target demographic are sad ass soy boys lacking the means or experience to treat them like us older guys can.

If you are young, decent looking and have disposable income, you should be killing it in civvy banging on Tinder and the like. Being on Seeking is a red flag for younger women. What's wrong with you, they wonder. Heard this from some 25-35 SBs.

I'm married brother. Needless to say I want discretion and don't have to time to invest on chicks who are hoping for a relationship.

**Admin2** · 03-05-23 02:32

Originally Posted by Grafenberg [View Original Post]

Prostitutes complaining about being treated like prostitutes. That's gold, Jerry, gold.

I can understand the chicks thinking that but I can't stop laughing when guys think of "SB's" as non pros. You are literally handing them money to fuck and you think they aren't a prostitute.

Dumbfounded.

**Grafenberg** · 03-05-23 02:17

Originally Posted by Mcsylv [View Original Post]

The funny thing is, if you talk to SB's who've done this a while, they'll complain about how the quality of men is lower on Seeking too. Lots of young guys hoping to use it as a generic dating app, a lot of "johns" who just give a dollar amount to come over and fuck.

Prostitutes complaining about being treated like prostitutes. That's gold, Jerry, gold.

**TomFordModel** · 03-05-23 02:06

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...b-47413f010ff1

Seriously. Sa has gone downhill. Why in the fuck is this thing messaging me! Like seriously. You're old and busted. Expecting someone to pay and texting someone that is way beyond your league.

Shit, she's better off being a sugar momma. I wouldn't touch it even if she offers me 10 k ppm.

**SonChi** · 03-04-23 22:56

Originally Posted by DasHottCalla [View Original Post]

Just signed up, I didn't know that incognito mode was a thing.

And now you are all good.

**TomFordModel** · 03-04-23 18:26

It seems like these bitches put alot more photos on sb. Goddamn, these girls are fugly! I'm old and shit but I swear I look better than these girls at my old age.

Time to freestyle. Need to work on in person game.

**Ernest Ll** · 03-04-23 18:04

Originally Posted by DasHottCalla [View Original Post]

I see what you're saying. I'm on the younger side, mid 30's. So I guess they don't take me seriously.

So why are you on SA? Chicks who would date you in civvy life are on there because most in their target demographic are sad ass soy boys lacking the means or experience to treat them like us older guys can.

If you are young, decent looking and have disposable income, you should be killing it in civvy banging on Tinder and the like. Being on Seeking is a red flag for younger women. What's wrong with you, they wonder. Heard this from some 25-35 SBs.

**DasHottCalla** · 03-04-23 15:58

Originally Posted by Mandane [View Original Post]

There is a way. You have to pay of course LOL. When you get the paid version you can use incognito mode. The only people who can see your profile are ones that you swipe right on (like). You can also use travel mode to change your location.

Just signed up, I didn't know that incognito mode was a thing.

**DasHottCalla** · 03-04-23 15:43

Originally Posted by Mcsylv [View Original Post]

The funny thing is, if you talk to SB's who've done this a while, they'll complain about how the quality of men is lower on Seeking too. Lots of young guys hoping to use it as a generic dating app, a lot of "johns" who just give a dollar amount to come over and fuck.

Then the question becomes, if high value men and women aren't on Seeking anymore, where are they? For women, the easy answer is OF, but what about men?

I see what you're saying. I'm on the younger side, mid 30's. So I guess they don't take me seriously.

**Mandane** · 03-04-23 15:30

Originally Posted by RudyWellz [View Original Post]

If I recall, like me you are married. How do you pull off Bumble and maintain some level of discretion? Would love to join, but last thing I need is a friend of my wife to see my profile.

There is a way. You have to pay of course LOL. When you get the paid version you can use incognito mode. The only people who can see your profile are ones that you swipe right on (like). You can also use travel mode to change your location.