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**Max #01** · 11-09-23 09:14

Originally Posted by Mannerism30 [View Original Post]

There's a reason I was never a fan of being verified.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/08/high...more-feds.html

Me, too. I've come close a couple of times, but have never taken the plunge. Did anyone else notice that this story broke the day after election day? This whole thing was done by the DHS feds, taking full advantage of human trafficking laws enacted after 9-11. Either the cop who wrote the affidavit did PhD-level research or perhaps had a lot of experience himself in the hobby. One other observation: It appears as if this investigation started in Boston and spread to NOVA when the "PhD" started connecting the dots.

**Randalthor** · 11-09-23 06:12

Originally Posted by TomMcAn [View Original Post]

the article's author needs a geography lesson. Fairfax and Tysons Corner are located in Northern Virginia, not eastern Virginia.

The reference to "eastern Virginia" comes from the federal court district where the charges were filed. Check out the indictment which details the verification process and how the business was set up.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...thel-ring-case

**Tom McAn** · 11-09-23 00:47

Originally Posted by Mannerism30 [View Original Post]

There's a reason I was never a fan of being verified.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/08/high...more-feds.html

This is why I keep telling my fellow mongers never to give out real names, photos, identification, employment info, etc. Nor should mongers pay with a credit card or any form of electronic payment, only cash at the time of service. You see what happens when our least favorite uncle busts an agency or individual provider? A lot of mongers are now at risk of being exposed and being embarrassed at the very least. Some might even lose their jobs, careers, and marriages as a result, even if they don't face criminal charges.

Edited to add: the article's author needs a geography lesson. Fairfax and Tysons Corner are located in Northern Virginia, not eastern Virginia.

**Mannerism30** · 11-08-23 16:57

There's a reason I was never a fan of being verified.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/08/high...more-feds.html

**Shinshi** · 10-24-23 16:41

Originally Posted by NovaDaddy69 [View Original Post]

You would hope it wouldn't need to be said, but perhaps it does LOL. Along with never sending money in advance, a good policy is never give your SB the code to your hotel safe. Looks like someone in Vegas just got bitten bad by doing so.

Las Vegas woman left U2 concert to take $50 K from 'sugar daddy's' hotel safe.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/las-vegas...184709983.html

While I'm glad they caught & charged her, the victim's also a moron for 1) Trusting her with his safe code, and 2) Paying thousands for her company and nothing else. And going off her mugshot, I daresay he could have found other SBs that were so much hotter and with a more open menu. Being in his 50's is not old enough for him to claim senility.

No wonder Seeking is chockful of scammers, dashers, and platonic SBs infected with GPS. I mean why would some put in the effort & spread their legs when they can sucker dumb shits like the aforementioned guy or offer simple platonic company for 500,800, 1 K, etc? Easy money by taking the path of least resistance, and I don't blame them.

**NovaDaddy69** · 10-24-23 16:22

You would hope it wouldn't need to be said, but perhaps it does LOL. Along with never sending money in advance, a good policy is never give your SB the code to your hotel safe. Looks like someone in Vegas just got bitten bad by doing so.

Las Vegas woman left U2 concert to take $50 K from 'sugar daddy's' hotel safe.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/las-vegas...184709983.html

**Serpin58** · 02-25-23 16:48

Originally Posted by TravlinMonger [View Original Post]

Been doing this for years, Many of these women who do massage, especially the older women work voluntarily for the money because with their limited skills, to make this much money in China is impossible. I do not rule out that China is the biggest franchise corporation in America, but I don't know for sure. Many women in the business come and go from place to place, knowing they will be underground except when they go to Flushing. Remember,the Chinese do not think like we do,these women are singularly focused and actually do not like Americans, with exceptions of course. So, new parlors keep opening and people are making money. If you find a good girl, get her number, you may have some fun in and out of the shop but rarely does it last for long. Everybody uses everybody, go have fun.

Not always the case for the older woman. Why I prefer independents that work out their home! More than likely are doing this under their own moral choice! Not all of them have limited skills! Ms Virginia is a college graduate and fluent in English grammar better than most Americans! It's just about money and morally except it! Your right about tne fun in and out of the shop and not lasting- ALL to WELL.

**TravlinMonger** · 02-25-23 16:14

Been doing this for years, Many of these women who do massage, especially the older women work voluntarily for the money because with their limited skills, to make this much money in China is impossible. I do not rule out that China is the biggest franchise corporation in America, but I don't know for sure. Many women in the business come and go from place to place, knowing they will be underground except when they go to Flushing. Remember,the Chinese do not think like we do,these women are singularly focused and actually do not like Americans, with exceptions of course. So, new parlors keep opening and people are making money. If you find a good girl, get her number, you may have some fun in and out of the shop but rarely does it last for long. Everybody uses everybody, go have fun.

**Grafenberg** · 02-17-23 19:46

Originally Posted by PJ268 [View Original Post]

You're over generalizing here, and I think a lot of people need to educate themselves on this topic. The power a trafficker may hold over a victim may never be violent or physical. Its often financial or psychological (ex. A promise of higher paying jobs). The trauma can be so great that the victim may not even think they're a victim, or be to scared to report their trafficker. Even forced labor in a completely legit massage parlor is considered human trafficking.

The victim is so well off they don't think they're a victim? Why are you here if you even think that, every sex worker is a victim then.

**PJ268** · 02-17-23 17:51

Originally Posted by JayCramer80 [View Original Post]

They don't understand these girls are not victims of Human Trafficking. They come here on their own because they can make way more money than they can in Asia. The ASC girls in hotels may be, but the AMP's are not. I know several girls personally, and they are their own boss. They come and go as they please and don't owe anyone. I have't met a single AMP girl over the past 7 years or so that is a victim of human trafficking. I know a couple that came here because they had an abusive Asian husband who beat the crap out them or gambled away their savings.

You're over generalizing here, and I think a lot of people need to educate themselves on this topic. The power a trafficker may hold over a victim may never be violent or physical. Its often financial or psychological (ex. A promise of higher paying jobs). The trauma can be so great that the victim may not even think they're a victim, or be to scared to report their trafficker. Even forced labor in a completely legit massage parlor is considered human trafficking.

**Derilious89** · 02-17-23 14:48

Originally Posted by BenDhover [View Original Post]

Cute. Written after you blow your load on the floor of an ACS.

What's the point of that other than to ignore and minimize actual sex trafficking? No, I don't frequent ACS / LCS and not because every place is some sort of slavery den but because I want to be safe and avoid the chance of engaging in a trafficking. If you've found an ACS or LCS that you trust, then that's great. Everybody should do that.

Are you that jaded to think that you can't have morals in this hobby? Or maybe this is how you justify your own behavior by saying that "everyone does it" and taking advantage of women so you can save a couple of bucks? I'd rather pay a premium at a place I trust to do things ethically. But hey, who knows. Maybe next, you'll tell me that it's "cute" to tell guys not to roofie girls.

**Figrindan** · 02-17-23 13:55

Just going to leave this here.

https://nypost.com/2023/02/16/averag...it-concerning/

**Eerock** · 02-17-23 01:11

Glenn Youngkin 2023 = Josh Hawley 2017.

https://reason.com/2020/07/14/sen-jo...hats-not-true/

**ToraChan23** · 02-16-23 17:32

Originally Posted by GripNSip [View Original Post]

It's a bastardization of our "puritan" American values.

Yet these same women can create Only Fans accounts and sell sex that way. So much for our puritan American values.

All of a sudden its a problem when insertion happens.

**FourNick8** · 02-16-23 16:45

Dallas used to have an AMP scene that makes NOVA look like 3rd grade. Then the state legislature made solicitation a felony offense and the whole thing shut down. If Va does that then it's all over.