"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**WillDuff** · 01-12-23 10:00

Originally Posted by MilfHunter818 [View Original Post]

I had this problem using chrome. I switched to edge and was able to login just fine.

I had the same problem from Saturday to night before last. I found that I needed to install the last Chrome update. That fixed it.

**Member #6704** · 01-12-23 01:28

Originally Posted by LouisHernandez [View Original Post]

Anyone tried any other sites besides SA recently? The male to female ratio is nothing like it was even a few years ago, which is slowly turning SA into another vanilla dating app where the girls get so many messages and so many "pseudo" options that the flake rate is getting unbearable. The site is getting away from its core mission of sugar dating with the new "datingup" name change. I miss the good ole days. I know about secretbenefits.com but that site has been thoroughly discredited as a rinser / scam site. Too many phony profiles and phony messages from fake accounts being sent to try to drain your credits.

On SA I'd say half of the profiles are just straight up fake, and another 25% are just time waster / cashapp scammers. Maybe only 25% of the girls on there are real and of those maybe half of them are actually willing to meet up.

Wondering what else is out there. My subscription on seeking is about to end soon and this may finally be my last hurrah. Just not worth the amount of time and effort anymore.

On an unrelated note and thinking outside the box: I'm into fitness and considering as a side gig to be a part time personal trainer. The certification test takes about 3-6 months to prepare/study and complete. I can pick whatever hours I want and even try to pick my clients since I don't need the money. So many times I see hot young women dripping wet literally when some dude is training them. I had a friend back in the day who did that and every month he was dating some hot young piece of ass, all personal training clients.

Funny I was thinking the same. Personal trainer route. But that means I need to get in shape!! Curious what age is your friend who was hooking up with girls from the gym? But that's true I had personal trainer friend as well but he was early 40's.

**LouisHernandez** · 01-12-23 00:00

Originally Posted by SeekingRdu [View Original Post]

It's a fair bit of work man but it's not that bad out there. In 2022 I pretty much averaged one new chick per week. Many were one offs but several where it has been a good ongoing relationship. There is a lot of weeding and sifting to be done, but the rewards are still great.

Well I'm in Denver, maybe ATL is better. Denver was great up until the Chinese flu hit and since it's never been the same. The ratio is just really bad. I send messages to many girls who won't reply and they aren't anything particularly special. Before 2019 it was like shooting fish in a barrel. I landed some incredible young pussy on seeking pre 2019 with little to no effort. I think too many California dudes moved here or something.

**Member #6718** · 01-11-23 23:47

Originally Posted by LouisHernandez [View Original Post]

Finally got a piece of ass. 28 year old, not too thick but with a nice ass. Went straight to her place and after a 15 min intro went to town.

Her profile was pretty UTR, one pic with no face and then shared private pics. Took some prodding to get her share her private pics. I'm finding now the only success is with a UTR with bad photos and just hope she looks better in person. She looked better in person.

I'll keep this one going for a while as she's into BBFS CIP for $200. I'm pretty much done with my search for this subscription. I've never had it this tough before. So many fucking flakes. Even after getting numbers they go dark for no reason after a few messages. The seeking heydays aren't just over, they are long gone. This is a an insane amount of work and I was close to coming with nothing at all.

It's a fair bit of work man but it's not that bad out there. In 2022 I pretty much averaged one new chick per week. Many were one offs but several where it has been a good ongoing relationship. There is a lot of weeding and sifting to be done, but the rewards are still great.

**LouisHernandez** · 01-11-23 22:42

Finally got a piece of ass. 28 year old, not too thick but with a nice ass. Went straight to her place and after a 15 min intro went to town.

Her profile was pretty UTR, one pic with no face and then shared private pics. Took some prodding to get her share her private pics. I'm finding now the only success is with a UTR with bad photos and just hope she looks better in person. She looked better in person.

I'll keep this one going for a while as she's into BBFS CIP for $200. I'm pretty much done with my search for this subscription. I've never had it this tough before. So many fucking flakes. Even after getting numbers they go dark for no reason after a few messages. The seeking heydays aren't just over, they are long gone. This is a an insane amount of work and I was close to coming with nothing at all.

**Member #7125** · 01-11-23 16:23

Originally Posted by MilfHunter818 [View Original Post]

I had this problem using chrome. I switched to edge and was able to login just fine.

I did the same as the milfhunter.

**SoonerFan72** · 01-11-23 16:09

Originally Posted by LouisHernandez [View Original Post]

Anyone tried any other sites besides SA recently? The male to female ratio is nothing like it was even a few years ago, which is slowly turning SA into another vanilla dating app where the girls get so many messages and so many "pseudo" options that the flake rate is getting unbearable. The site is getting away from its core mission of sugar dating with the new "datingup" name change. I miss the good ole days. I know about secretbenefits.com but that site has been thoroughly discredited as a rinser / scam site. Too many phony profiles and phony messages from fake accounts being sent to try to drain your credits.

On SA I'd say half of the profiles are just straight up fake, and another 25% are just time waster / cashapp scammers. Maybe only 25% of the girls on there are real and of those maybe half of them are actually willing to meet up.

Wondering what else is out there. My subscription on seeking is about to end soon and this may finally be my last hurrah. Just not worth the amount of time and effort anymore.

On an unrelated note and thinking outside the box: I'm into fitness and considering as a side gig to be a part time personal trainer. The certification test takes about 3-6 months to prepare/study and complete. I can pick whatever hours I want and even try to pick my clients since I don't need the money. So many times I see hot young women dripping wet literally when some dude is training them. I had a friend back in the day who did that and every month he was dating some hot young piece of ass, all personal training clients.

I've had a little success with Sugar Daddy Meet (www.sugardaddymeet.com). I know a few others on here has as well. Not quite as much traffic, and you still have fakes and flakes, but success can be had if you put some work into it. And its cheaper, $90 gets you 3 months.

**FarFarAway** · 01-11-23 15:04

All sugar babies are local. The ones in Atlanta are different than those around me.

Long ago, I met someone special on the site Established Men. I even posted a photo of her hotness on the Richmond thread recently. I saw her on SA after we stopped dating also. There is a lot of cross listing. Back then, Established Men was OK, I know nothing about it now.

**LouisHernandez** · 01-11-23 13:52

Anyone tried any other sites besides SA recently? The male to female ratio is nothing like it was even a few years ago, which is slowly turning SA into another vanilla dating app where the girls get so many messages and so many "pseudo" options that the flake rate is getting unbearable. The site is getting away from its core mission of sugar dating with the new "datingup" name change. I miss the good ole days. I know about secretbenefits.com but that site has been thoroughly discredited as a rinser / scam site. Too many phony profiles and phony messages from fake accounts being sent to try to drain your credits.

On SA I'd say half of the profiles are just straight up fake, and another 25% are just time waster / cashapp scammers. Maybe only 25% of the girls on there are real and of those maybe half of them are actually willing to meet up.

Wondering what else is out there. My subscription on seeking is about to end soon and this may finally be my last hurrah. Just not worth the amount of time and effort anymore.

On an unrelated note and thinking outside the box: I'm into fitness and considering as a side gig to be a part time personal trainer. The certification test takes about 3-6 months to prepare/study and complete. I can pick whatever hours I want and even try to pick my clients since I don't need the money. So many times I see hot young women dripping wet literally when some dude is training them. I had a friend back in the day who did that and every month he was dating some hot young piece of ass, all personal training clients.

**FarFarAway** · 01-11-23 10:51

Having good operational security is key to keeping your identity safe from a SB, and eliminating any possibility of blow back from a failed sugar relationship, extortion attempts, and possible exposure to a SO. I without fail remove my license plate before a M&G. I can usually arrange the meeting spot so I can do this across a big parking lot, so I am not really driving plate less on public roads. In California they don't care much about this anyway, but in other jurisdictions YMMV, literally. One other thing I have done is put black electrical tape across the last part of the VIN, which is visible on the lower left of my windshield. Having a VIN is just about as good as a plate # for identifying someone based on their vehicle.

There is at least one website where you can provide a plate # or VIN and, for $40, get the registration of the vehicle. I have used this a couple of times to identify SBs I was seeing, but of course they could do the same in reverse. Some SBs may also go to the trouble of getting a 'friend' in LE to run your car.

I have as a main goal at a M&G to get the POT into my car 'for more private discussion of sensitive topics'. There I can touch her if the vibe suggests she is receptive, and with appropriate preamble, I always try to get the girl to kiss me. One can always wonder if a girl is really interested in or even willing to bang someone 20,30, even 40 years her senior (I admit to being a geezer). I figure if she won't kiss me at the M&G, there's no damn way she is going to meet at the FC. I also typically rely on the girl to book the room for us, which reduces the risk of discovery for me. If things feel right at the M&G, I will even advance a girl cash that will cover the room, so she knows she isn't going to be stiffed by me. It is a show of good faith on my part, and only a couple of times has the girl not delivered. I guess I can claim to be a good judge of character / choosing wisely.

**MilfHunter818** · 01-10-23 22:45

I had this problem using chrome. I switched to edge and was able to login just fine.

Originally Posted by TylerDurden07 [View Original Post]

For the past 5 days or so, every time I've tried to log in to SA on my PC, with what I know is my correct password, I've gotten this message:

"Sorry we experienced an issue loading this content. Click here to retry. ".

I know it's not my account, as I've had no problems accessing the site on my phone. I've tried every trouble shooting method I could find & even tried different browsers, but so far no luck in fixing this. I emailed SA, but their customer service seems worthless.

Anyone experienced this before and / or has any idea how to fix this? Like I said, it affects my access only on my PC.

**LouisHernandez** · 01-10-23 21:59

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

Do you speak w / POTs by phone before the M&G? I find this to be a very helpful filter. I mean, if a girl won't talk to me on the phone, why would I think she would get in her car and drive to a Starbucks? I don't even send my real photos to a girl until I have spoken to her and know I am still interested.

I still get flaked on from time to time, but by someone who is just irresponsible, not just young. Overslept, etc.

No and I've landed plenty under 22's throughout my SA career. My game may be off. I think I need to send them a vetted pic a day before the meet to keep them interested or something. The one today who flaked I probably could have played a little differently but she could also just been a retard time waster.

**LouisHernandez** · 01-10-23 21:53

Originally Posted by SeekingRdu [View Original Post]

I have to say I really haven't noticed it any better or worse at 18-24 than 25-29. I mean they are all pretty flakey LOL. But I would say all of my best SBs over the past year have been in the 20-23 age range. I had TWO 23 year olds that were happy to just hang out and fuck, no allowance even LOL. And we did a lot many times.

Maybe I am getting too spoiled and a bit LEO DiCaprio but I am starting to see a difference between 25+ and a 20 yo, and I am always preferring the 20 yo LOL.

30+ and it's game over for me. I can find those chicks on Bumble. Yeah it may take the same money in dinners and whatnot but frankly if you're 30+ and looking for a sugar daddy you're either a pro or washed up hag.

That's very valid. Over 30 is stupid. I just have a really tough time at 47 getting anything under 22 now but I shouldn't summarily dismiss them.

**Member #6718** · 01-10-23 20:15

Originally Posted by LouisHernandez [View Original Post]

+1. The prob with the 18-24 range is the flake rate is off the charts. So many times everything is great and they seem excited and then when the day of meet comes, radio silence. They are just playing you for an ego boost and never were serious. 25-29 there's alot less games: They'll either ignore you completely or if they talk to you are much more likely to meet. A 26 year old looks just as good as a 22 year old to me anyway.

Now 30+ you start running into either really trashy girls or super overpriced MILF GPS types.

I have to say I really haven't noticed it any better or worse at 18-24 than 25-29. I mean they are all pretty flakey LOL. But I would say all of my best SBs over the past year have been in the 20-23 age range. I had TWO 23 year olds that were happy to just hang out and fuck, no allowance even LOL. And we did a lot many times.

Maybe I am getting too spoiled and a bit LEO DiCaprio but I am starting to see a difference between 25+ and a 20 yo, and I am always preferring the 20 yo LOL.

30+ and it's game over for me. I can find those chicks on Bumble. Yeah it may take the same money in dinners and whatnot but frankly if you're 30+ and looking for a sugar daddy you're either a pro or washed up hag.