"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[KingHorama2]

I started in my mid-30's. I'm no multimillionare but I'm debt free and own my own home, but I don't think net worth is actually as important as seeking thinks it is. For me, Tinder and other online dating apps suck and have incredibly low success since I'm not an attractive guy (the Tinder reddit posts the first 2 rules of Tinder: 1) Be attractive and 2) Don't be unattractive LOL). I've been doing this a little over a year now and have scored a ton, found some really great borderline relationships, and much much prefer this to dealing with escorts.

Regarding not bringing up the arrangement, I've had it happen a few times, but it's very rare. The girl has to either 1) seriously like you over text and / or 2) find talking donation awkward and hopes you'll bring it up. During my last active sub back in Sept I banged out a cute kinky red head co-ed who just hated talking about it and so did not, but after we finished I gave her what I thought was fair (my standard 200 since I picked up a hotel) and she pouted, said she normally gets 400. I gave her an extra 50 and she left without any fuss, but later blocked me. So that's the risk you take. On the other hand I did bang out a 19 year old near the beginning of my sugaring who was just happy to go out on a date that didn't involve fast food, and didn't give a rats ass about $. So if you don't bring up the arrangement, it can go either way.

Thanks for sharing. And I'm the same, not attractive, average looks and a little overweight.

Started working before I was a teenager so never got any female attention and don't have the gift of gab so full on uphill climb for me, but even the last few days since finding this forum, I've noticed my text game improve and rate of responses drastically go up!

Had a Latin / Korean baddie on the hook and invited me out without any mention of money or arrangement but work ducked me and lost her!

Have to give you all props! The info and advice you generously share definitely works.

[GoneForGood97]

The last few days posts have been informative and entertaining, especially for a newbie to the game, such that I am.

I am learning a fair bit from this forum and trying to improve my game, but all I seem to be finding is ppm asking for 500+.

I wanted to try and get a sense of the senior and more experienced members journeys. I just turned 39 and my NW is just over 1 mil. I started sugaring because my schedule is too hectic to meet traditionally and go through the rigamaroll of regular dating.

What age, NW and reason got you into sugaring. How did you navigate early on when you started and what lessons did you learn. And lastly, how is anyone finding SB's that don't bring up money? Every interaction I've had has involved them bringing up arrangement, ppm, or allowance or some form of payment.

I started in my mid-30's. I'm no multimillionare but I'm debt free and own my own home, but I don't think net worth is actually as important as seeking thinks it is. For me, Tinder and other online dating apps suck and have incredibly low success since I'm not an attractive guy (the Tinder reddit posts the first 2 rules of Tinder: 1) Be attractive and 2) Don't be unattractive LOL). I've been doing this a little over a year now and have scored a ton, found some really great borderline relationships, and much much prefer this to dealing with escorts.

Regarding not bringing up the arrangement, I've had it happen a few times, but it's very rare. The girl has to either 1) seriously like you over text and / or 2) find talking donation awkward and hopes you'll bring it up. During my last active sub back in Sept I banged out a cute kinky red head co-ed who just hated talking about it and so did not, but after we finished I gave her what I thought was fair (my standard 200 since I picked up a hotel) and she pouted, said she normally gets 400. I gave her an extra 50 and she left without any fuss, but later blocked me. So that's the risk you take. On the other hand I did bang out a 19 year old near the beginning of my sugaring who was just happy to go out on a date that didn't involve fast food, and didn't give a rats ass about $. So if you don't bring up the arrangement, it can go either way.

[Hal1957]

Something is off here. Look at the door in the picture. I measured my door with the same design features and she appears to be standing about 5' 4", probably in heels, no way she's 6' 2". The person who took the picture was standing at least six inches taller or holding the camera above his head. Unlikely. If I was in the market, I'd TOFTT and give her a grope. Since no one here admits to actually having seen her, it's more likely she's HAF and no one wants to share. But that's ok, some of the best sex I've ever had was with SBs that others dismissed without actually sampling. And then you ***** ***** ***** about the scammers and flakes. SMH.

Lordy, that ain't a lady.

[TattoedDaddy1]

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I know you like to think of yourself as some serious bad ass but do you see where it says "Report Post?" They talk shit, you report them, and I take care of it. If you don't want to do that then take stupidity like this to the fight thread.

FYI people don't "write" on your shirt tails, they "RIDE on your coattails." What it means is that they lack ability so you have to drag them along.

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[CuriousVaMan]

Hey FarAndAway – I've enjoyed your comments on the Richmond board for years. Thanks for your many contributions. I too am an older man (62) and find no trouble finding some pretty awesome young things for extramarital activities – and I'm overweight. Go Figure!

I absolutely love the Atlanta board – great combination of intel and experiences. And since I have the opportunity to visit Atlanta several times a year, all the better!

Further to GoneForGood's comments, I remember a poster on the Richmond board within the last year or so who used the SAME name for his USASG profile and his real-life profiles. Apparently, if you Google your USASG Username with "USA Sex Guide" after it, your posting history is displayed in the search results. This dude got into a mess of trouble because he used the same name across platforms and was some type of kids' little league coach while coaching SBs. Needless to say, he was discovered. . . .

Good job, GoneforGood97.

[FarFarAway]

Damn, that second one is stunning. Totally my type. Was that a SB or escort and how much was ppm / donation? Share some more pics of her in the "Greatest Hits" thread, if you like.

I feel the same way. The first girl was a single mom, European heritage, and had experience as a kept woman. I couldn't really afford her long-term, but did a lot of socializing w / her and got one overnight date at 600. The younger one, what a hard body, and I do have more photos of her from that same shoot, but I was really rolling the dice w / that posting, I don't think I'll take any more risks. She was 19, and I think I gave her 300. One small disappointment, I got her off DATY, and then she became super sensitive, so I couldn't do any more, she couldn't really have multiple Os. She relocated from soCal to San Jose last I knew. Both were well before the pandemic. Both SBs. From SA. I am retirement age, so there's that. 😁128513;.

My approach is to be the nicest guy they've ever been with. Its really the only weapon I have. Also bedroom skill of course, but they don't know that when they agree. I read of guys on here who are getting hot youngsters at small money because they have a quasi-dating relationship w / them. That will never happen with me of course, I am 40 years older than some of these girls. So, you geezers reading, take heart. Get in there, you would be surprised what kind of girls you can pull off of SA, at least around here. I have also had great luck when traveling, recently did a trip to Chicago, scored great dates w / 2 mid-late 20's girls.

[Peter Johnson]

I'm sure she was born a girl, but not your type clearly LOL, and that's ok. I usually just immediately block any trannies I see.

Yes same here. Trannies get immediate block. I don't know they should be on that part of the site, but it's Seeking mgmt's fault, not theirs.

[Peter Johnson]

Here are a couple of examples, both I saw long ago. You can find really nice girls here, w / great personality, who aren't as hot as these, but still way above average, and who you can hang w / for a while without having to tolerate the usual SB crap.

Damn, that second one is stunning. Totally my type. Was that a SB or escort and how much was ppm / donation? Share some more pics of her in the "Greatest Hits" thread, if you like.

[HollaHolla321]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...6-3a8b081d2a3f

Just curious if anyone has got anywhere with this one. Profile is a few months old, and they don't talk like a scammer. Moved her to snap, she snapped me a live pic. When I asked for one with a specific pose she pouted. Normaly I'd immediately cut off and move on, but her chatting doesn't have the usual hallmarks of scamming, and she hasn't asked for $.

AVOID! She snaps you pics to make you believe she's real. I asked her multiple times to send me a video to verify she's legit but she said she would charge me for that. I said okay I'll meet you. She stays in Buckhead. I want to the place she said she stay and she wanted me to cash app first before she came to see me. I warn she ahead of time that I would only do it once I saw her in person. Anyways she refused to meet me she actually share the location what she was in Buckhead but I wouldn't take a chance. I would say cash only and see if she meets than.

[LaidLow17]

How did you arrive at this conclusion? Granted, the main profile pic is a little sketchy, and 6'2" Hispanic is an Amazon, but I don't see even the hint of an Adam's apple.

Lordy, that ain't a lady.

[FarFarAway]

I'd challenge any of you to stack your girls up against those in SoCal. So many hotties, but also a lot of GPS. If I didn't have to worry about the SO catching me about the $, I'd have a hard time restraining myself with many of them. Like that earlier poster.

Here are a couple of examples, both I saw long ago. You can find really nice girls here, w / great personality, who aren't as hot as these, but still way above average, and who you can hang w / for a while without having to tolerate the usual SB crap.

[LouisHernandez]

Agreed, I very intentionally avoided using "nice" in my post. I don't simp, but I'm respectful and classy. It's amazing how quickly you can get a girl to go from boring conversation to full on sexting and nudes by just being respectful while being just a little flirty.

The whole goal and I sometimes get sidetracked on this, is to make them laugh within the first several texts. If you can't do that you're sunk. Once they confirm with a few "LOLs" etc, then I try to setup a meet.

[GoneForGood97]

I would say be "classy". Not necessarily nice. There's a fine line between nice and simp. Simps get nothing. And agree on usernames.

Agreed, I very intentionally avoided using "nice" in my post. I don't simp, but I'm respectful and classy. It's amazing how quickly you can get a girl to go from boring conversation to full on sexting and nudes by just being respectful while being just a little flirty.

[LouisHernandez]

Bruh.

I hope you know that's NOT a female. Unless you're just into that sort of thing.

+1. That's no broad. The height also gives it away.

[LouisHernandez]

I talked to her a couple of days ago and moved to text. Gave her my schedule and requirements, her response and I quote "My ppms have thusfar been between 5-8. I'd ask for 7+" After 9 was late night so extra for hosting and I couldn't stay for long.

She was pleasant to talk to, but ghosted her due to ridiculousness.

Here's a little jedi mind trick when they pull stupid GPS numbers. Say "I'll do $600 a week if we meet twice a week". Sometimes it'll work, and you've got her down to $300. I've done that for a few one and dones and it worked.