"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Peter Johnson]

How do you approach chicks for pics / vids? I would love to do this but just don't seem to know the right approach.

There are a couple of different ways to do it. I used to just wait until we were in the middle of having sex, and preferably after I get them off with oral, and they are loose and feeling good. Then in doggy, I will say something like "Damn what a beautiful view. I wish I could capture this somehow. Are you ok with taking some hot pics. I keep them encrypted on my computer, and only for my personal use". Some will go for it, and some will not.

But now I will bring it up before we meet, when we are discussing PPM. I will throw out a number what I did with past girls and casually mention, "or more if they were ok with me taking some hot pics together. For my personal use only and I keep them encrypted on my computer". So I basically upcharge myself there, and offer extra 50 or 100. And if the girl is hot, an extra 100 for pics I will enjoy for many years, is so worth it.

And I never say anything about "video", but just do it when I'm taking the pics. Saying you want to take video just sounds more creepy or intrusive. But nothing better than a BJ video or oral cumshot vid....although feels better to put it somewhere else, of course.

Basically the perfect date for me is 90 min to 2 hrs of BBFS / CIP, and I can take hot pics. If they give me all that, then I'm fine with being extra generous.

[Member #6718]

Yes, I have my "new pussy spreadsheet" that goes back to the start. I didn't start it until I was up to #75 or so and just had to sit and remember all those, but I've kept it mostly updated and current, since then. I have pics saved of many of them, but some of the others I have zero recollection of, which is too bad. I am really pushing for taking pics and video of new girls I am with lately, because that adds a lot of value to the experience for me. Of course I don't blame the ones who aren't down for this, but they just get moved farther down the list.

How do you approach chicks for pics / vids? I would love to do this but just don't seem to know the right approach.

[Member #6718]

I bought lifetime premium for bumble for $149, and then they banned me a few months later.

What did they ban you for? I have been pretty open. But respectful. On the sugar dating questions.

[OliverNP]

I basically never run into a girl that is "sugar optional" at least not recently (last few years). Maybe I should tweak my profile text and add more vanilla dating terms. Good post.

I encounter it fairly regularly (like when an SB is getting the hint that the new and shiny factor is wearing off for me, and suddenly she has the idea maybe we could date without sugar in order to keep me around), but only within a certain age bracket (maybe 25+ on average).

But, what I'm seeing now is a little different. It's the girls who make clear they are in search of a long-term relationship and ask me explicitly to not ruin it by talking about ppm or allowance.

Is that really sugar-optional? I don't think so. I still think the majority of them still want their hands in my pockets, they would just like it to be under the successful boyfriend / young girlfriend way of doing things rather than anything like an official specified amount.

If that's what you're looking for (and I know some folks are), then yes probably a different approach in the profile to indicate that's what you want would attract more of what you want. I try to craft my profile in a way that it doesn't limit opportunities. That's not always easy, because if I say I want casual & NSA, the girls who want BFs won't react well to it, and if I say I want a LTR, it might land me more cheap or free pussy (at the expense of lots of texting) but turns away the casual encounters I actually prefer.

[TattoedDaddy1]

Yes, I have my "new pussy spreadsheet" that goes back to the start. I didn't start it until I was up to #75 or so and just had to sit and remember all those, but I've kept it mostly updated and current, since then. I have pics saved of many of them, but some of the others I have zero recollection of, which is too bad. I am really pushing for taking pics and video of new girls I am with lately, because that adds a lot of value to the experience for me. Of course I don't blame the ones who aren't down for this, but they just get moved farther down the list.

New Pussy Spreadsheet. Brilliant!

[AmpFanatl]

I presume that most of you, like me, keep a list and even a gallery of the girls you have banged. I have all the contact info on my SBs on a master list that has everyone I have ever been in contact with from SA, all of the other pertinent facts, etc. This is protection for me, and presumably will give me fodder for strolling down memory lane when I am too old to get it up anymore. Thankfully I appear to be years (or decades) away from that. LOL!

Yep, once I get them off the site and texting. I usually start a folder with any pics they have sent plus one or two from their profile, and any pertinent information. Every now and then when I want something particular I hit up the "Pussy Folder" to know who to text LOL.

[Peter Johnson]

I presume that most of you, like me, keep a list and even a gallery of the girls you have banged. I have all the contact info on my SBs on a master list that has everyone I have ever been in contact with from SA, all of the other pertinent facts, etc. This is protection for me, and presumably will give me fodder for strolling down memory lane when I am too old to get it up anymore. Thankfully I appear to be years (or decades) away from that. LOL!

Yes, I have my "new pussy spreadsheet" that goes back to the start. I didn't start it until I was up to #75 or so and just had to sit and remember all those, but I've kept it mostly updated and current, since then. I have pics saved of many of them, but some of the others I have zero recollection of, which is too bad. I am really pushing for taking pics and video of new girls I am with lately, because that adds a lot of value to the experience for me. Of course I don't blame the ones who aren't down for this, but they just get moved farther down the list.

[Peter Johnson]

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[Peter Johnson]

For Bumble I was able to get lifetime premium for like $99, so that covers that. Hinge I don't bother with premium.

I bought lifetime premium for bumble for $149, and then they banned me a few months later.

[Member #6718]

I replied last night to an 18 year old that "liked" me on hinge and asked her if she was "interested in sugar dating", response "Yes actually I am". So far so good haha.

Question regarding bumble and others: do you pay so you can see your matches? It's very time consuming to find your matches otherwise.

For Bumble I was able to get lifetime premium for like $99, so that covers that. Hinge I don't bother with premium.

[FredFlintBc]

I've got a SA girl that recently moved to Atlanta. I'll share details with seniors via PM.

[LouisHernandez]

I definitely feel the winds of change on SA lately, the changes made to eliminate escort behavior have had a definite impact.

Opinions vary here of course, but I'm of the belief that sugar-dating *is* a "legit" form of dating where there are clear distinctions between that and escorting, therefore SA can now be considered more of a legit dating site than what it used to be.

This good in some ways, bad in others.

The good is that there are less escorts, so there is less concern that a girl I meet has had six other dicks in her that day. In truth that wasn't ever a real risk, because all of us know how to spot an escort once the conversation gets rolling, but because they are fewer and farther between (at least in the cities I play in), there is a lot less time wasted in the process of figuring this out. I have to assume this is because escorts are getting kicked or banned for shop talk and eventually get frustrated and go elsewhere.

The bad is that it seems to have drawn far more girls that want a real relationship, in many cases sugar-optional, with an older guy. Sugar-dating was always very time consuming, but so many of these girls want to spend a lot of time texting or getting to know you before deciding to meet or not. More of the 23+ year olds looking for an older boyfriend with a nice job than the 18-22 year olds that want some money to party with their friends over the weekend.

I can't say the net amount of time spent in the process of conversion to fuck chamber is any different than before, what's changed is the way in which the time is spent. Personally I hate constant texting, so for the most part I miss the old SA, but at the end of the day the ROI (amount of pussy versus time spent) is roughly same. It feels like a return to the old days before SA, where sugar opportunities were there, but spotting them and generating leads was less convenient.

I basically never run into a girl that is "sugar optional" at least not recently (last few years). Maybe I should tweak my profile text and add more vanilla dating terms. Good post.

[FarFarAway]

Ha good times. While we are at it comparing numbers this year has been my best by some margin with 40 (was at 46 starting the year). It has been a mix of paid sb's from seeking (mostly), some freebie sb's from seeking, smaller number of paid sb's from bumble, and then some regular dates from the regular apps. Just between Christmas and tonight NYE I will have banged 5 different chicks, 3 sb's all in there early 20's, a hot 35 yo asian from bumble last night and tonight a 50 yo I've known through some social groups. It's been a good here. Next year I plan to slow down with the sugar, I have my one super solid smoking hot 20 yo asian gal, and another that is very into the swinger scene so hoping to get some numbers up in that world. We shall see.

I presume that most of you, like me, keep a list and even a gallery of the girls you have banged. I have all the contact info on my SBs on a master list that has everyone I have ever been in contact with from SA, all of the other pertinent facts, etc. This is protection for me, and presumably will give me fodder for strolling down memory lane when I am too old to get it up anymore. Thankfully I appear to be years (or decades) away from that. LOL!

[LouisHernandez]

Yep. I am 50. Got one 20 yo, just swiped right, we matched, bantered a bit, asked if she was into sugar dating. In my area we have the "compliment" function where you can comment on one of their pics. I have used this too and just said something like "Hey great pic you look fabulous. Are you open to sugar dating at all"? Same approach on hinge. Landed two from bumble and one from hinge this way, age 20,20 and 23.

I replied last night to an 18 year old that "liked" me on hinge and asked her if she was "interested in sugar dating", response "Yes actually I am". So far so good haha.

Question regarding bumble and others: do you pay so you can see your matches? It's very time consuming to find your matches otherwise.

[TattoedDaddy1]

That was the best story I've ever read on here. It had everything! It may or may not be true, but as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter. Most on here thought Babyria was beyond redemption, but you did it. I think there's something admirable about coaching a troublesome SB into doing her best. I love it. Keep up the good work.

I'm glad you see it that way, I do not regret nor take back any time that I spent with her. But I am very in touch with things and when I feel like something has run its course, I have no problem with walking away. I absolutely wish her the best.

P.S. If you don't believe the story, I said about her, just read the other reviews and that should tell you.